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BSPN last night re-ran a "30 for 30" from 2009 about the USFL, which had a three-year run from 1983 to 1985. Produced by tribesman Mike Tollin, its theme was that Trump was responsible for the demise of the league. As the owner of the New Jersey Generals, Trump supposedly held sway over the other league owners because of his fame and money, and was only counterbalanced by the owner of the Tampa Bay Bandits, John Bassett, who died from brain cancer, leaving Trump unchallenged.

Trump wanted the league to change its spring schedule to play head to head against the NFL and the USFL announced that after its third season in '85, it was going to switch to a fall schedule in 1986 and simultaneously filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the NFL and won, but were awarded just $3 in damages, effectively ending the league, which had too many owners without deep pockets.

It was interesting to watch the file footage of Trump and others from that era. Then in his late 30s, Trump was as brash, charismatic and uber-confident then as he is now. In his very curt "current" interview with Tollin (from '09), Trump says he doesn't think about the USFL anymore and dismisses it as "small potatoes," thus the name of Tellin's piece, "Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?"

The airing of the show was delayed a bit by an Arena League game running too long. I watched the last five minutes of the fourth quarter and was suitably appalled. Jacksonville and Los Angeles both surprisingly had White QBs, but otherwise both teams were overwhelmingly black. I spotted one or two White o-linemen and one White defender and that was it other than the kickers. LA had a black coach, who was shown over and over again and was doused with Gatorade after his team won, which was its first game of the season. The LA team is named "Kiss," after their owner, tribesman Paul Stanley, the lead singer for Kiss, who attended the game with his family. The crowd was sparse and looked like it had been bused in from the nearest Wal-Marts. Pretty much a scene out of the movie Idiocracy, but of course BSPN airs the Arena League while it ignores the NHL.
 
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The Trumpster had a bad week, with his campaign manager getting booked unjustly for a push or grab, which happens to 100s of reporters during a presidential campaign. Then he answered clumsily on his views on abortion and his flip flops. Man, he better get his act together and speak with concise and coherent statements/message. Looks like Cruz will route him in WIS. Trump has to know he needs professionals for message help.
 
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The Trumpster had a bad week, with his campaign manager getting booked unjustly for a push or grab, which happens to 100s of reporters during a presidential campaign. Then he answered clumsily on his views on abortion and his flip flops. Man, he better get his act together and speak with concise and coherent statements/message. Looks like Cruz will route him in WIS. Trump has to know he needs professionals for message help.

Yes, the bad spell Trump is having has given the GOP establishment renewed hope of stopping him.
 

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Its looking like he will not get the 1237 delegates. I suspect he and Cruz will form an alliance against the establishment. My guess is that Trump will be the President with Cruz given assurances from Trump himself, that he will be a Cheney type VP, with real influence and power. I see this as the only way to stop the establishment from picking K-sh**t or some other type of establishment type candidate.
 

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The Trumpster had a bad week, with his campaign manager getting booked unjustly for a push or grab, which happens to 100s of reporters during a presidential campaign. Then he answered clumsily on his views on abortion and his flip flops. Man, he better get his act together and speak with concise and coherent statements/message. Looks like Cruz will route him in WIS. Trump has to know he needs professionals for message help.

I agree, not the greatest of weeks for Trump. His speeches at his rallies yesterday were very good, though. The guy is very resilient. Steven Miller (?) gave a substantive, effective warm-up speech for Trump (
). Maybe his town hall meeting tonight, hosted by Fox's Greta Van Sustern, will provide some much needed momentum.

The media is enemy number one. It's is criminal that the presstitutes are not covering Cruz's shenanigans. How his super pac gets away with tranferring $500,000 to Carly Fiorina's super pac is crazy.
 

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Cruz is part of the establishment. His wife worked for Goldman Sachs and had a role in the George W Bush administration. Now, not surprisingly, !Jeb is throwing his support behind Lyin' Ted.

There will be no deal between Trump and Cruz. The plan is to steal the nomination through a brokered convention. Cruz and Kasich are just playing spoiler at this point.
 

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I thought the Trump campaign would drop this bomb during the weekend or at the latest today. I guess they couldn't get enough push to get it into the US MSM. These allegations kill the Cruz campaign which is going away after Wisconsin most likely anyway. The RNC must know about this, their whole play for Cruz was for him to keep Trump from getting the nomination on the first ballot. The longer he hangs on the less delegates Trump gets. Since the next few contests are in the east it wasn't expected for Cruz to do much after Wisconsin. No matter what happens tomorrow, and it looks like a Trump loss, it probably won't make a difference if Cruz drops.
 

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One poll has Lyin' Ted up by 4-5% in Wisconsin, another shows Donald up by 10%...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...sin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html

It's not a "winner take all" state, so perhaps he'll get a few delegates even if he looses...
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Not sure what to believe, but as Flint/Jax said, Trump likely has some very big wins coming in NY, CT, PA, DE, MD, and RI. I can't wait to cast my vote on April 26th!

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TRUMP: HOW MEHICO WILL PAY FOR WALL

Trump reveals how he would force Mexico to pay for border wall



Trump captures the nation’s attention on the campaign trail
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The Republican candidate continues to dominate the presidential contest.
By Bob Woodward and Robert Costa April 5 at 12:28 PM
Donald Trump says he will force Mexico to pay for a border wall as president by threatening to cut off the flow of billions of dollars in payments that immigrants send home to the country, an idea that could decimate the Mexican economy and set up an unprecedented showdown between the United States and a key diplomatic ally.

In a two-page memo to The Washington Post, Trump outlined for the first time how he would seek to force Mexico to pay for his 1,000-mile border fence, which Trump has made a cornerstone of his presidential campaign and which has been repeatedly scoffed at by current and former Mexican leaders.

The proposal would jeopardize a stream of cash that many economists say is vital for Mexico’s struggling economy. But the feasibility of Trump’s plan is unclear both legally and politically, and also would test the bounds of a president’s executive powers in seeking to pressure another country.



In the memo, Trump said he would threaten to change a rule under the USA Patriot Act antiterrorism law to cut off a portion of the funds sent to Mexico through money transfers, commonly known as remittances. The threat would be withdrawn if Mexico made “a one-time payment of $5-10 billion” to pay for the border wall, he wrote.

“It’s an easy decision for Mexico,” Trump said in the memo, which was written on campaign stationery emblazoned with “TRUMP Make America Great Again.”

The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward and Robert Costa sat down with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. Here’s how the interview went. (Lee Powell/The Washington Post)
After the wall is funded, Trump wrote, transfer payments could continue “to flow into their country year after year.” He gave the memo to The Post in response to a written question provided to him before an interview last week.

Nearly $25 billion was sent home by Mexicans living abroad in 2015, mostly in the form of money transfers, according to the Mexican central bank. In his memo, Trump said that “the majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens.”

But that figure includes cash from around the world, not just the United States. In addition, a Government Accountability Office report in Januarysaid that it is difficult to track how much money illegal Mexican immigrants are sending versus those working legally in the United States.

Another complication in Trump’s remittance proposal is that he also wants to deport all 11 million illegal immigrants living in the United States, many of whom come from Mexico.

Anderson said Trump’s memo also leaves unaddressed how normal financial transactions across borders would be affected and whether there would be an overly aggressive federal intrusion into the growing number of financial transactions that take place over the Internet.

Entitled “Compelling Mexico to Pay for the Wall,” the memo is the latest attempt by the Republican presidential front-runner to offer more specifics about his proposal at a time when he faces tough head winds, including a potential loss Tuesday to Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas in Wisconsin’s Republican primary.

The memo includes rationales for a number of potential intimidation tactics, including increased trade tariffs, the cancellation of visas, and higher fees for border-crossing cards.

But at the core of Trump’s approach is a focus on the remittances of illegal immigrants, which he argues are crucial to Mexican economic stability and are a way of pressuring the country to disburse billions of dollars to the United States to fund construction of his wall.

Trump’s official immigration plan, released last year, featured a pledge to “impound all remittance payments from illegal wages” and to hike fees on temporary visas, among other actions, but it did not go into further detail.

The playbook outlined in Trump’s memo echoes suggestions that have long been made by Sen. Jeff Sessions (Ala.), a Trump confidant and a hard-line voice on immigration policy within the Republican Party. Stephen Miller, a former top aide to Sessions, is Trump’s policy adviser.

Starting on “day 1,” Trump writes, he would issue a warning to Mexico that unless it pays his desired amount, he will promulgate a new federal provision that would lead to a sweeping confiscation of funds sent by Mexicans in the United States who lack documentation of their “lawful presence.”

On “day 2,” Trump continued, “Mexico would immediately protest.” But he would declare that Mexico must choose between the enforcement of his provision or acquiescing.

To explain how he would have the standing to pursue his aggressive strategy, Trump begins by citing a provision in the Code of Federal Regulations that sets the standards for financial institutions in identifying their customers.

That provision, Trump says, makes it possible for the executive branch to “issue detailed regulations on the subject.” He predicted that Mexico would react by initially balking, then doing what he wants.

Trump writes that “if the Mexican government will contribute $__ billion to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.”

Many academics and economists have said that Trump’s notion of impounding remittances could have devastating consequences, harming poor communities and families who rely on funds from abroad to provide food and shelter.

Trump leaves open the option of using other methods to coerce Mexico, including “trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules,” “cancelling visas” and “visa fees.”

“Our approvals of hundreds of thousands of visas every year is one of our greatest leverage points,” Trump writes. “We also have leverage through business and tourist visas for important people in the Mexican economy.”

Trump ends with a scathing critique of Mexico, claiming that it has “taken advantage” of the United States for years through “gangs, drug traffickers and cartels” responsible for “the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity.”

“We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage,” Trump concludes.

 

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Looks like Scuz won Wisconsin; oh well, it'll be his last for a long while as the next few rounds are all East. Either really uninformed people there or the local election was as crooked as a three dollar bill.
 

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Looks like Scuz won Wisconsin; oh well, it'll be his last for a long while as the next few rounds are all East. Either really uninformed people there or the local election was as crooked as a three dollar bill.

Probably both.

Cruz's affairs seem not to have made any difference.
 
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I'm very disappointed in the Wisconsin results. I thought Trump would do better.
 

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Looks like Scuz won Wisconsin; oh well, it'll be his last for a long while as the next few rounds are all East. Either really uninformed people there or the local election was as crooked as a three dollar bill.

Maybe so, and I think Trump needs to go all out from this point forward with a bit (not much) of new material yet not veering or swaying, yet ever vigilant as to his foes . Hit everywhere with great speeches, new wrinkles, positive and inspiring great campaigning, as this could be the turning point in American history: to save it or for it to be gone forever, never to return.
People have mocked me for my dramatic tone and seriousness of these types of issues at times in my life. They don't seem to even know the coming tides will sweep away them, their children, their history, their futures.
 

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Maybe so, and I think Trump needs to go all out from this point forward with a bit (not much) of new material yet not veering or swaying, yet ever vigilant as to his foes . Hit everywhere with great speeches, new wrinkles, positive and inspiring great campaigning, as this could be the turning point in American history: to save it or for it to be gone forever, never to return.
People have mocked me for my dramatic tone and seriousness of these types of issues at times in my life. They don't seem to even know the coming tides will sweep away them, their children, their history, their futures.

I agree he needs some new material while maintaining existing, needs to capture more minds with need for nationalism but being positive. No mocking here, but at the end of this election I'll start to discuss a wayward path for man to take if anyone wishes to learn it (not religious; a way of living liberty).
 

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Im looking at the county tallies and there is a boatload more counties won by Trump over Cruz. It's not even close right now with most counties at about half the votes counted. I will be curious to see the final vote county by county. Trump obviously won every single area that isn't Dem/lib heavy. Check out Politico.com and the state map. Is this a Florida 2000 fiasco? Maybe not. But the MSM demons are wanting to give their cheers early tonight.
 

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Im looking at the county tallies and there is a boatload more counties won by Trump over Cruz. It's not even close right now with most counties at about half the votes counted. I will be curious to see the final vote county by county. Trump obviously won every single area that isn't Dem/lib heavy. Check out Politico.com and the state map. Is this a Florida 2000 fiasco? Maybe not. But the MSM demons are wanting to give their cheers early tonight.

Yeah, Trump won far more counties in WI, which were primarily comprised of rural areas. Lyin' Ted won the inner city/suburb counties. Same old story...

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I caught some of the lame victory speech made by the Canadian-born spic and it felt like listening to Barry Obama circa 2007. Totally scripted, delivered with a contrived passion, repetitive, self-aggrandizing, and vague. Last night, as he does in all of his speeches, the Big Nose Zionist screamed out: "We need a president who will stand, unapologetic, with the nation of Israel!" Should this worthless, spineless, bottom-feeding charlatan ever become POTUS, he'll surely be the biggest Zio Foot Soldier to hold office since the hyper-odious FDR (who should be detested more than any other leader in human history)...

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I don't think Americans are so stupid that most cannot see the obsession with the tiny state of Israel, thousands of miles away, is such a contrived importance that it is unnatural to the sleeping least, suspicious to the dormant most, and scandalous to the awake few.
 
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Wisconsin voted Bernie and Cruz.. Embarrassing. The powers at be are doing everything they can do to derail the Trump Train..
 
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