Simpson on trial again will he go down?

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Well it could become" The trial of the Century II". It looks like this sequel has no legs though. Here is ESPN's take on the matter....Sound familiar? O.J. faces long odds in armed robbery trial
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By Lester Munson
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Updated: September 8, 2008

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Thirteen years after a jury in Los Angeles found O.J. Simpson not guilty of the murders of his ex-wife and her friend, Simpson faces armed robbery and kidnapping charges in a trial in Las Vegas that begins Monday with jury selection. If convicted, Simpson faces a possible life sentence. The charges, the selection of the jury, and the trial itself raise many legal questions. Here are some of the questions and my take on the answers:

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After he was granted bail in September 2007, O.J. Simpson left the Clark County Detention Center. He returns to Las Vegas this week for the trial.

The prosecution claims Simpson and his gunmen terrorized and robbed two memorabilia dealers. Simpson contends he was simply asking for the return of personal items that had been taken from him. What is the evidence?

The evidence to be offered against Simpson will be powerful. It will include highly incriminating testimony from four of the men who accompanied him into the hotel room where the dealers where expecting to meet a legitimate buyer of their wares. None of the four men with Simpson, though, qualifies as a model citizen. But together, they tell a story that could convict Simpson. One of them, Michael McClinton, 50, says he supplied Simpson's crew with two guns. Others say they used the guns to force the dealers to stand back as they loaded the merchandise into hotel pillow cases and fled in a hurry.

In addition to the testimony of Simpson's four accomplices, there is a tape recording, allegedly of the incident; and the tape sounds a lot like a robbery. There is no conversation, no negotiation and no explanation on the recording. It is a series of profane demands ("Get your asses up" and "You, over there, against the wall") tinged with the threat of violence. The presence of guns is apparent, even on the audio tape. The dealers offer no resistance. One of them, Al Beardsley, is 6-foot-6 and weighs nearly 300 pounds. He says he thought he was closing a deal he had worked on for weeks that would net him tens of thousands of dollars he desperately needed, but he offered no resistance when he saw Simpson and his crew. Without the guns, Beardsley likely would have resisted Simpson to try to preserve his property and his deal.

What will Simpson offer as an explanation for what happened?

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Judge Jackie Glass

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Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass will preside over O.J.'s latest trial.

Simpson's attorneys will attempt to attack the veracity of the witnesses, will question the authenticity of the tape, and will try to explain that Simpson knew nothing about any guns and was simply trying to preserve his heritage as a football star for his children. He wanted the return of footballs from record-setting performances, ties he wore at his 1995 murder trial and an autographed photo of Simpson with J. Edgar Hoover. That's all, Simpson will argue. He will say it was his stuff, it was stolen from him and it should be returned. The attacks on the witnesses, all of them friends and acquaintances of Simpson, will include descriptions of their criminal records, which include some felony convictions. Yale Galanter, Simpson's lead attorney, will suggest that they are lying in an attempt to avoid jail. Galanter also will offer expert witnesses who will try to explain away the yelling, the screaming, the profane demands, and the surrender of the dealers that is audible on the tape. They will try to persuade the jury, using forensic techniques, that it was a benign gathering of a group of gentlemen talking over the glory days of Simpson's football career.

When the jury evaluates the witnesses, the testimony they will give and the audio tape, what conclusion will they reach?

It is hard to imagine the jury reaching the not-guilty conclusion that Simpson and his team will ask them to reach. The jury is more likely to find Simpson guilty on some, if not all, of the charges. Simpson spent the afternoon and the evening of Sept. 13, 2007, gathering them and preparing for their entry into the dealers' room. The witnesses, of course, are looking for leniency. None of them wants to go back to jail. But the prosecutors will argue that each of them is engaged in a most painful act of integrity, deciding to tell the truth even though it will put a friend in jail. One member of Simpson's crew will testify that Simpson told him to get the guns, and others will say they used them to threaten the dealers into surrendering their wares. Simpson's bail bondsman, Miguel Pereira, who brought him back to Las Vegas from Simpson's home in Florida for a bail revocation hearing, will testify that Simpson admitted to Pereira that he ordered his crew to bring the guns and to use them.

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At a preliminary hearing last November, O.J. got the news that he has to stand trial on kidnapping, armed robbery and other charges.

What about the memorabilia dealers? Are they legitimate victims or connivers?

They are a little of each. The way in which they came into possession of the Simpson materials is highly dubious. The footballs, the ties and the photos were all taken from Simpson's home on Rockingham Drive in Los Angeles, the house that became famous during the murder trial. It might be easy to portray these dealers as trading in stolen property. It is the kind of thing that happens from time to time in the memorabilia world. But they were also expecting to be working with a legitimate buyer. In addition to the Simpson material, they were trying to sell Joe Montana lithographs and baseballs autographed by Pete Rose and Duke Snider. When Simpson and his crew bagged up the dealers' wares, they took everything without paying a dollar to the dealers. If Simpson had paid anything for the Montana-Rose-Snider material, it's possible there wouldn't be any criminal charges.

Simpson assembled a dream team of lawyers to defend him against the murder charges 13 years ago. They managed to persuade the jury that Simpson was not guilty, even in the face of powerful evidence to the contrary. Does he have another dream team representing him in this trial?

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Miguel Pereira

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According to reports, Miguel Pereira, O.J.'s former bail bondsman shown here testifying at Simpson's bail revocation hearing in January, will tell the court that O.J. admitted to him that he ordered guns to be brought to the hotel room.

No one has used the phrase "dream team" to describe the lawyers defending Simpson against these charges. Galanter, his lead lawyer, has represented Simpson in various scrapes in the years since the murder trial, including a road rage charge. He is a very good lawyer who prepares meticulously and will argue Simpson's case effectively. But Galanter will never be confused with the late Johnnie Cochran, the brilliant and charismatic advocate who led Simpson's defense against the murder charge. In fairness to Galanter, it must be said that very few, if any, American lawyers would measure up to Cochran and his performance in the murder case. In addition to the loss of Cochran, Simpson will face a prosecution team that most observers expect to perform significantly better than the prosecutors in the murder case, Marcia Clarke and Chris Darden.

What will happen? Is it possible that Simpson will go to jail on these charges?

It is not merely possible. It is probable. Even with the dubious provenance of the memorabilia, the evidence against Simpson is strong. It will be difficult to persuade the jurors he is not guilty. His only real possibility of success will be to convince them that he knew nothing about any guns when he entered the dealers' room with his crew. He must claim that he was surprised when the guns appeared, a claim that will be difficult, if not impossible to make. Simpson spent hours organizing the visit to the dealers, and members of his crew will tell the jurors that they spent some of the time fetching the guns, a Ruger .45 and a Beretta .22. The jurors will see the guns in the courtroom. Simpson might succeed in obtaining a not-guilty finding on some of the charges -- the kidnapping charge, for example, is questionable -- but he is likely to be found guilty of robbery and face a stiff jail sentence.

Lester Munson, a Chicago lawyer and journalist who reports on investigative and legal issues in the sports industry, is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
 
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Munson was one of the biggest boosters of Nifong's Great White Witch-Hunt against the Duke LAX players.

Regarding Simpson, O.J. is on tape saying, "Don't let nobody out of this room!" This is a big piece of evidenc against him.
 

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He better not get away with anything this time.

Or what? I doubt white people will be looting and rioting in the streets if OJ gets away with it one more time. I hope he's convicted and I think the evidence is stacked against him but I thought that the last time as well.
 

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I think he has used up his good political will within the black community. He has never wanted to be black or be seen as black, except when it suited for the year and half while he was incarcerated and on trial. I don't think the stupidest of ghetto dwellers think it's a political cause this time. The rallying cry of this trial will be " Free OJ so that he can do the back 9 on the Miami Dade public course".....
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guest301 said:
whiteathlete33 said:
He better not get away with anything this time.

Or what? I doubt white people will be looting and rioting in the streets if OJ gets away with it one more time. I hope he's convicted and I think the evidence is stacked against him but I thought that the last time as well.
One good thing if the Juice is loose again we will get more 911 emergency calls, more road rage incidents, more fights at strip clubs and another possible DEA investigation. I need my daily dose of celebrity gossip...
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horrible singer...oops... wrong Simpson.
 
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According to one report I saw, Clark County Nevada is 10% black. The first group of jurors was also 10% black, but after the first questioning it is down to 5%. They must have been open about their biases.

When the wrongful death suit was being tried after Simpson's acqittal, it was found that black jurors thought that O.J. was "proven innocent" in the criminal trial. They also thought that the government had passed a law enabling Simpson to be tried twice. They ignored the fact that the wrongful death suit was a favorite of Johnnie Cochran's.
 
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A jury has been seated. The jury is made up of 9 women and 3 men. Horror of horrors, it is all white, or at least no blacks. This morning the talking heads were ranting about this.

The defense made two Batson challenges, but the judge ruled the challenges were legal. Blacks are officially a Protected Class by law. I heard several Talking Heads say this just now. It is taken as a given that a black defendant is supposed to have as many black jurors as possible.
 

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Well the prosecution called in the final witness and the trial is about to go to the jury. It looks like this has as much buzz as Survivor MMII....
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Here is the wire story....Prosecution rests its case in O.J. Simpson trial

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LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AFP) â€â€￾ Prosecutors in the O.J. Simpson trial rested their case Monday with testimony from a gunman who claimed the sports star asked him to bring a weapon to a confrontation with two memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas hotel last year.

Michael McClinton demonstrated for the jury how he held his .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun after bursting into a hotel room with Simpson and four other friends on Sept. 13, 2007.

The two dealers were robbed at gunpoint in a sting operation prosecutors allege was orchestrated by Simpson, 61, who was famously acquitted of murdering his ex-wife and her friend at a 1995 trial in Los Angeles.

Simpson could be jailed for life if convicted of a dozen robbery and kidnapping charges at his current trial.

"The weapon was out the whole time I was in the room," McClinton said under cross-examination.

Simpson and friend Charles Stewart face a dozen counts of robbery, kidnapping and assault against the two memorabilia dealers who sought to sell personal Simpson items allegedly stolen from the star's home in the 1990s.

Four others who participated in the raid, including McClinton, testified for the prosecution in exchange for pleading guilty to lesser charges.

During two weeks of testimony, prosecutors called 18 witnesses comprised of the victims, former Simpson friends, police and crime scene analysts.

Prosecutors have sought to show Simpson had served as the ringleader to the operation and was aware that his cohorts would be carrying guns.

Defense lawyers allege Simpson didn't know weapons were being used and he was merely trying to retrieve items that were rightfully his.

Simpson and Stewart are expected to wrap up their defense cases on Wednesday, with closing arguments planned for Thursday. Court will not in be session Tuesday.

One of the most famous American football players of his generation during a glittering 1970s career, Simpson was the prime suspect in the brutal murders of his ex-wife Nicole and her friend Ron Goldman.

Simpson, who has always vehemently denied the killings, was acquitted of murder after a racially charged Los Angeles trial in 1995, a verdict that was greeted with widespread outrage across America.

Simpson was subsequently found liable for the deaths in a 1997 civil suit and was ordered to pay damages to the victims' families totaling 33.5 million dollars.
 

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Here is Munson's take on the trial. As per ESPN.....Tapes could prove powerful evidence against Simpson
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By Lester Munson
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Updated: October 2, 2008, 1:07 PM ET

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In a small, windowless room on the 15th floor of a Las Vegas courthouse, a jury will soon decide the fate of O.J. Simpson. The jury's deliberations come at the conclusion of a four-week trial in which Simpson faced charges of conspiracy, robbery and kidnapping as the result of an incident in a Las Vegas hotel room on Sept. 13, 2007. The incident, the resulting investigation and the trial raise a number of questions about Simpson and the legal system. Here are some of the questions and their answers:

Prosecutors say Simpson is guilty of a robbery. Simpson and his lawyers say he was trying to recover things that had been taken from him. What will the jury decide?



After the first day of his four-week trial, O.J. Simpson appeared to be up against some strong evidence of guilt.

Simpson likely will not walk away from these charges the way he walked away from the murder charges in 1995. The evidence of a robbery is clear. There were nine people in the room when Simpson and his crew barged in with guns and grabbed an array of sports memorabilia that was displayed for a possible buyer. Seven of the nine have testified against Simpson. All seven agree that two members of Simpson's crew brandished guns, ordered the two memorabilia dealers against the wall and held them while others grabbed the merchandise. Even worse for Simpson, both gunmen agree that he asked them to "bring some heat" and told one of them as they entered the room to take his .45-caliber pistol out of its holster and use it on the dealers. A tape recording of the incident, made surreptitiously by the broker who organized the supposed sale, has the sounds of a robbery -- demands, threats and foul language -- and nothing that sounds like a gentleman seeking to recover mementos for his children.

What was the most powerful evidence against Simpson?

Michael McClinton, one of Simpson's crew, secretly recorded everything that was said as the crew gathered after the robbery. In this group, no one trusted anyone and everyone seemed to have a tape recorder. McClinton's tape, when it was played without interruption Friday, held the jury spellbound. At the end of the tape, there was not much doubt about what happened. Although Simpson and his lawyers deny that he knew anything about any guns, Simpson is clearly heard on the tape asking McClinton, "You didn't pull the piece out in the hall, did you?" Simpson told McClinton that he was worried about the security video cameras in the hotel corridor. "No, no, no, no, hell, no," McClinton replied. The reference to the "piece," together with testimony from McClinton and the other alleged gunman, Walter Alexander, that Simpson told them to bring guns could easily lead the jury to conclude that Simpson asked for the guns, knew all about the guns and then tried to cover up evidence of the guns.

How do Simpson and his lawyers explain the seven witnesses and Simpson's own acknowledgement of the guns?

In their answers to the charges, Simpson and his lawyers attacked the veracity of the witnesses, questioned the validity of the tape recordings and suggested that Simpson merely sought the return of some personal mementos. The witnesses, they said, were a group of thugs who lied about Simpson in attempts to reduce their sentences. The two gunmen, like others in Simpson's crew, made deals with the Las Vegas prosecutors that would result in reduced sentences in return for their testimony. Simpson's legal team also tried to show that the tapes could have been tampered with between the time the tapes were made and the time the tapes were turned over to police. But the Simpson legal team did not produce experts or other indications of actual tampering. To persuade the jury that he was merely trying to recover stolen items, Simpson would have been the best witness. But he did not testify.

Why didn't Simpson testify?

Simpson easily could have impressed the jury if he had testified. His surprising reservoir of personal charm has been on display daily in the corridors of the courthouse and on the sidewalks outside as he banters, poses for pictures and signs autographs. Early in his testimony, he might have been able to persuade the jury he was trying to preserve a legacy of football keepsakes for his children. But then he would have faced cross-examination. It could have been brutal. The prosecutors would have used the tapes to show Simpson's increasing denial, delusion and desperation in conversations after the robbery. The tapes include McClinton's record of the post-robbery gathering and its mention of the "piece," collect telephone calls Simpson made from the Clark County Jail and other voicemails. On the tapes, Simpson is heard trying to tell members of his crew that they must remember that no guns were used. "As long as no one mentions guns, we don't have to worry," he says to one member of the crew. "Just remember -- no guns, no guns, no guns," he says to another. Increasingly concerned in the days after the robbery, he says, "I f----d up, I'm going to need a bail bondsman." On another occasion, he is heard trying to assure himself, "This ain't no major, major crime." When he realizes that McClinton, Alexander and others are telling the police about the guns, he calls his bondsman to complain about them, dropping "m----r f----r" three times in a single sentence and then saying, "I'm tired of this s--- now, m----r f-----g a------s changing what they told me."

Does Simpson have any hope? Is there any chance the jury could find him not guilty?

Yes. Simpson's lawyers have picked away at the witnesses and their stories and have succeeded in raising some doubts about their veracity. Simpson's most important witness was his good friend, Thomas Scotto, a neighbor in South Florida who operates an auto body shop. Simpson and Scotto were in Las Vegas for Scotto's wedding, with Simpson serving as Scotto's best man. The Simpson memorabilia event that led to the robbery charges was scheduled to coincide with Scotto's wedding. During a wedding party after the robbery, Scotto told the jury on Wednesday, both McClinton and Alexander demanded a private conversation with Scotto. In what Scotto calls an extortion, the two gunmen demanded $50,000. If they did not receive the money, they said, they would make things very difficult for Simpson. If the jury believes Scotto and concludes that Simpson was only trying to recover football and family keepsakes, the jury could find him not guilty. Scotto's testimony was one of many attacks on the men who have testified against Simpson. Simpson's lawyers say the witnesses are opportunistic thugs who are lying to avoid jail time, while the prosecutors insist that the men in Simpson's crew are telling the truth against their former friend in painful acts of integrity. It would be a real stretch to believe what Simpson's lawyers are saying, but it could happen.

Were there any surprises during the trial?

Yes. Judge Jackie Glass surprised everyone with a ruling that seems to be in direct conflict governing decisions of the Nevada Supreme Court. District Attorney David Roger and Deputy District Attorney Chris Owens were well-prepared and presented their evidence brilliantly. In their proof of Simpson's intent to lead a robbery, they intended to rely on evidence of Simpson's enduring rage over the wrongful-death judgment that the family of murder victim Ron Goldman obtained against him. Simpson has refused voluntarily to pay any portion of the $33.6 million judgment. His former manager, Mike Gilbert, moved valuable trophies, game balls and other football memorabilia out of his home to avoid collection by the Goldmans. When Simpson and Gilbert fought over money, Gilbert took some of the items and sold them. Simpson was furious, and it was this fury that led to his attempt to recapture the items and the robbery charges. The rage over the Goldmans' judgment and Gilbert's actions are what formed Simpson's reported intent to organize the robbery. The prosecutors expected to present Gilbert and the Goldmans' attorney, David Cook, as witnesses. But Judge Glass, unexpectedly and inexplicably barred their testimony. It was a surprise and a blow to the prosecution.

Lester Munson, a Chicago lawyer and journalist who reports on investigative and legal issues in the sports industry, is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
 
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The judge felt she had to bend over backward not to let in the 1995 murder trial, and the subsequant civil trial. This is why she did not let Gilbert and the Goldman's attorney testify. The fact is that Simpson's actions related to the Goldmans pursuit of him. The jury may well know this, anyway.

Sometimes, a defendant may be dead-bang guilty and still walk free. You never know what a jury will do. Simpson should go down on the armed robbery charge, but it remains to be seen.
 

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He needs to go down. That p.o.s needs to get his. The shame of it though is that he got off scott free with murder (come on, we all know he did it) and then if he gets convicted and sentenced for this---just not fair. He should have been locked away years ago.
 

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Westside,

What's the point. He should have been dead years ago. His lawyer said he's going to appeal, so this isn't over by a long shot. Until the bum sets foot in jail, he's still doing fine.

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he's in jail NOW, taken away and put there, and bail was denied . read the headlines everywhere today. he's gone at least 5 and up to 30 years. it's a good day...rejoice at least for this much!
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This was certainly some good news to wake up to this morning.
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Finally some justice in this country and OJ was very lucky to have the last thirteen years free. It shows how pathetic he is after literally getting away with two murders, he couldn't stay out of trouble and just live the life that got handed back to him.
 

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guest301 said:
This was certainly some good news to wake up to this morning.
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Finally some justice in this country and OJ was very lucky to have the last thirteen years free. It shows how pathetic he is after literally getting away with two murders, he couldn't stay out of trouble and just live the life that got handed back to him.

Agree totally.
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I was just wondering how OJ was going to find the real killers of his ex-wife and her friend now that he will be in prison. He has spent the last thirteen years scouring every golf course in the country looking for the real killers. Oh well!

I have wondered for a long time if OJ's children would ever turn on him and speak publically about what he did to their mother. Now maybe soon that dam will break.Edited by: guest301
 

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The appeal doesn't go to a jury, it goes to a panel of judges who could easily over turn the verdict. Don't pop the cork on that champagne just yet.
 

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I knew Simpson was done with audio tapes. I wasn't sure on the kidnapping charges as he really didn't take the memorabilia dealers anywhere it seemed more like a case of forcible confinement. Anyway he will get a minimum of 5 years. It was fun seeing his Chesire cat grin turn into a child's face about to cry(this time).
 

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The puke will sit and jerk for 5 to 10. Maybe some big white dude will shank him, who knows? At least we know justice finally caught up to him.
 

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Simpson was sentenced today. Here is the wire story....
O.J. Simpson sentenced to at least 15 years
Last Updated: Friday, December 5, 2008 | 6:34 AM ET Comments54Recommend46
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O.J. Simpson, left, is handcuffed after he was convicted on all charges in his kidnapping and robbery trial at the Clark County Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas Oct. 3, 2008. O.J. Simpson, left, is handcuffed after he was convicted on all charges in his kidnapping and robbery trial at the Clark County Regional Justice Center in Las Vegas Oct. 3, 2008. (Steve Marcus/Reuters)

A Nevada judge sentenced O.J. Simpson on Friday to at least 15 years for kidnapping and robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room.

Simpson could be eligible for parole in five years.

Before the sentencing, Simpson stood and delivered an emotional speech apologizing for his actions.

"I stand before you today sorry, somewhat confused," he said.

"In no way did I mean to hurt anybody, steal anything from anybody. ... I didn't want anybody else's stuff. I just wanted my own."

Simpson described the property as stolen family heirlooms and said the incident was his first opportunity to catch thieves "red-handed" and reclaim them.

The former football star was convicted in early October on a dozen charges for storming into a room at a hotel-casino with five other men and seizing sports mementoes and personal items from the dealers on Sept. 13, 2007.

Simpson, 61, is famous for escaping incarceration after his acquittal in a highly publicized murder trial 13 years ago for the death of his ex-wife and her friend.

The judge stressed that the sentencing was in no way "retribution or payback" for Simpson's previous acquittal on murder charges.

"I have to respect what happened in the case 13 years ago. There are many people that disagree with that verdict, but that doesn't matter to me," said Judge Jackie Glass.

During his latest trial, prosecutors said two of the men with him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring a gun.

Simpson's co-defendant and former golfing buddy, Clarence (C.J.) Stewart, was also convicted of the charges.

Jurors heard a secret audio recording of a confrontation in which Simpson can be heard saying, "Don't let nobody out of this room!"

But the defendants claimed they were trying to recover sports memorabilia Simpson said was stolen from him.

Simpson was found guilty of kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and a number of other charges.

In 1995, Simpson was acquitted on charges that he murdered his ex-wife, Nicole, and her friend Ron Goldman in a sensational trial that attracted media attention around the world. He was later found liable for the deaths in a civil case.
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