I need your help please.

[ShowSomePride]

Greetings gentlemen.

I don't post much on this site, but I do read it all the time. I am coming to you for assistance in an argument I am having concerning crime statistics in America.

He simply refuses to believe that whites are the victims of crimes at the hands of blacks in much larger numbers than the reverse.

Please help me put this smarmy little rat in his place.

I need as much source-able information as possible to make my case. I knocked around the FBI site for a while trying to find some good data, but none of the crime stats were broken down by race (surprise, surprise).

Thanks in advance.
-SSP

 

[Don Wassall]

Go to the American Renaissance site -- http://www.amren.com/and in the right hand column about a fourth of the way down look for "The Color of Crime" icon which can be downloaded for free. That should give you all the ammo you need.

 

[Van_Slyke_CF]

Don,


Thanks for the link from me as well. I took the time to read the 120+ posts about the blackmass murderer Thornton in Missouri. What an enlightening experience! So many intelligent, thoughtful people actually telling the truthand taking the time to discuss the merits/demerits of the opinions presented. Where is this kind of national debate at a time when the nation so sorely needs it? Not in the so-called mainstream mass media to be sure.


There are a lot of other interesting links therethat I`ll be checking out, too.


Thanks again.

 

[Run Stuffing LB]

On this page you can get arrests by race from the FBI. It's buried under "expanded arrest data."

 

[Tom Iron]

Run Stuffing LB,

I didn't want that info, but thanks anyway. good to know where to get it.

Tom Iron...

 

[screamingeagle]

Show some pride, I hope you can convince your friend. The amount of black on white crime is shocking. I refer to this as the "Silent genocide" against whites.

 

[ShowSomePride]

Well the battle continues on. Thanks for your help.

I couldn't even get him to read the PDF, because it was written by Jared Taylor, and apparantly he's a nazi so nothing he has to say is of any value...

How's that quote go?

"You can't win an argument with an ignorant person"

Truer words have never been said.

 

[Bart]

Well the battle continues on. Thanks for your help.

I couldn't even get him to read the PDF, because it was written by Jared Taylor, and apparantly he's a nazi so nothing he has to say is of any value...

Would he read a Chicago Tribune article?


[url]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-070610hat ecrime-story,0,7700301.story?coll=chi-news-hed [/url]


By Howard Witt | Tribune senior correspondent
<DD>June 10, 2007


KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - What happened to Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, a young Knoxville couple out on an ordinary Saturday night date, was undeniably brutal. The two were carjacked, kidnapped, raped and finally murdered during an ordeal of unimaginable terror in January.


But whether the attack was a racial hate crime worthy of national media attention is another question, one that has now ignited a fierce dispute over the definition of hate crimes and how the mainstream media choose to cover America's most discomfiting interracial attacks.


(snip)
<H2 ="sub">What the statistics say</H2>


On one hand, African-Americans bear the brunt of violent crime in the U.S.: In 2005, the most recent year for which statistics are available, blacks were more than twice as likely as whites to fall victim to serious violent crime, most often at the hands of other blacks.

Blacks are also the overwhelming majority of victims of attacks recorded by the FBI as hate crimes. In 2005, blacks were the victims in 68 percent of nearly 5,000 hate-crime incidents nationwide, while whites were the victims in 20 percent of the cases. Whites accounted for60 percent of known hate-crime offenders, while blacks accounted for 20 percent.

But on the other hand, when overall cross-racial violent crimes are tabulatedâ€â€￾including incidents not formally classified as racially motivated hate crimesâ€â€￾Justice Department statistics show that blacks attack whites far more often than whites attack blacks.

In 2005, there were more than 645,000 victims of cross-racial violent crimes between blacks and whites in the U.S. In 90 percent of those crimes, black offenders attacked white victims.
<DD> </DD>Edited by: Bart

 

[Guest]

Federal information is becoming less useful every year. The crime rate of europeans in the US is lower than what the FBI says.

Meanwhile, the census has become almost completely useless.

 

[Quiet Speed]

There's an ancient column by Walter Williams on the first edition of Color of Crime. If Jared didn't turn this guy on, Walter Williams probably won't do much for him either. Not accepting the numbers at face value, Williams took it upon himself to check Jared's research and found the numbers to be on the mark.

The Ugly Conspiracy of Silence

 

[white is right]

From what I saw on the FBI arrest records all crimes by blacks are higher than the percentages against whites(whatever they define as white). Except for DIU and that maybe a reflection on income levels.

 

[ShowSomePride]

There's an ancient column by Walter Williams on the first edition of Color of Crime. If Jared didn't turn this guy on, Walter Williams probably won't do much for him either.

I disagree. Walter Williams is black, and painting him as a nazi is going to be awfully difficult. In fact, this is (hopefully) the coup-de-grace I've been looking for. Thanks a ton.

 

[Alpha Male]

I noticed in the crime section of the FBI link they have nothing on hispanics. Do they commit no crime, or do they just lump them in with whites to skew the data?

Edited by: Alpha Male

 

[white is right]

White Latinos get lumped with White Americans and Black Latinos get lumped with Black Americans. I don't know what they do with Latinos that are aboriginal looking.

 

[Alpha Male]

Exactly. How do they tally Mexicans?

 

[jaxvid]

White Latinos get lumped with White Americans and Black Latinos get lumped with Black Americans. I don't know what they do with Latinos that are aboriginal looking.

Are you sure about this? I understood that Hispanics were a seperate catagory for victims but were lumped in with whites in the criminal catagory.

 

[Bart]

Are you sure about this? I understood that Hispanics were a seperate catagory for victims but were lumped in with whites in the criminal catagory.

I believe this is a common practice. I just checked Milwaukee's FBI web site, and found two glaring examples listed under Featured Fugitives.
<CENTER>ANGEL SALDANA-MENDOZA</CENTER>
<CENTER>
<CENTER>

</CENTER>
<CENTER>
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width=590>
<T>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Date of Birth Used:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>October 1, 1950</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Hair:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Black</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Place of Birth:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>Mexico</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Eyes:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Brown</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Height:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>5'7"</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Sex:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Male</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Weight:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>120-130 pounds</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Race:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>White (Hispanic)</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>NCIC:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>W861288591</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Nationality:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Mexican</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Occupation:</TD>
<TD colSpan=3>Unknown</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Scars and Marks:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>Angel Saldana-Mendoza may have two scars over his heart that are three-to-four inches in length.</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Remarks:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>Angel Saldana-Mendoza has ties to Mexico.</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<H2>
<CENTER>ARTHUR LOPEZ, JR.</CENTER>
<CENTER>
<TABLE height=210 cellSpacing=5 cellPadding=0 width=301>
<T>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top align=middle width=150 height=200>

</TD>
<TD vAlign=top align=middle width=150 height=200>

</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width=590>
<T>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Dates of Birth Used:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>December 30, 1980;
December 30, 1969;
December 28, 1977;
December 13, 1978</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Hair:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Black</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Place of Birth:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>Milwaukee, Wisconsin</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Eyes:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Brown</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Height:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>5'5"</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Sex:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>Male</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=150>Weight:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>150 to 170 pounds</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Race:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>White (Hispanic)</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>NCIC:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=230>W420361603</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=90>Nationality:</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width=120>American</TD></TR></T></TABLE></CENTER></H2></CENTER></CENTER>

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Of course they throw in Latinos under the "White" catagory...to bump up White crime stats (in the name of socialist propaganda/"political correctness"). Latinos/Hispanics should have their own catagory.