Sultan Ibragimov vs. Shannon Briggs

[PitBull]

Athletes using steroids is a big deal when not all athletes are on steroids.
It creates an unlevel playing field. Now we know that Evander Holyfield
was taking steroids and HGH to beat his opponents in the heavywieght
division. He was blown up like a balloon. One tell-tale sign of steroids
that I notice is huge development and definition of the trapezius and
deltoids, especially the part of the deltoid from the shoulder to the
scapula. Look at Holyfield on the youtube video of his fight with Tyson.
You'll see what I mean. The fighters of old never looked like that.
Weights schmeights--lifting heavy weights doesn't help you out much at
ring time.

I believe Colonel Callan has made the point over an over again that part
of the implementation of the caste system has to do with looking the
other way on steroid use by blacks so they can outcompete whites. Its
true in track and field, and I don't see why it shouldn't be different in
other sports too.

From the way Briggs looked in his last fight, IMO, he was definitely on the
juice. He's 38. Trust me, its hard to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle when
you are 38. You might not know it yet, but that's true. He should be
declining (slowly, not like falling off a roof), not getting bigger and
stronger. I think other heavyweights are also on it. I'm sure a number of
guys in MMA are. Its a big deal in my opinion, unless you juice up
everybody and require it, its cheating.Edited by: PitBull

 

[Bart]

Does anybody else think that hairstyle makes Briggs look dumb?

He looked dumb before the goofy hairdo. Now, he looks even dumber.

 

[Charles Martel]

From the way Briggs looked in his last fight, IMO, he was definitely on the juice. He's 38. Trust me, its hard to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle when you are 38. You might not know it yet, but that's true. He should be declining (slowly, not like falling off a roof), not getting bigger and stronger. I think other heavyweights are also on it. I'm sure a number of
guys in MMA are. Its a big deal in my opinion, unless you juice up everybody and require it, its cheating.

Good post. I've spent enough time around weight training gyms and fitness centers in my life to be able to tell how a steroid-induced body build differs from a naturally muscular body. Shannon Briggs has one of the most obviously steroid-enhanced bodies we'll ever see. I see other heavyweights who are obviously on them too, but Sultan Ibragimov looks to have a natural build. Too much reliance on steroids may actually hurt a boxer's chances in a fight, since he may go through a kind of low-testosterone withdrawal when he has to stop taking them before the fight. The body may become too reliant on the steroids to help produce testosterone.Edited by: JD1986

 

[whiteathlete33]

Briggs is talking his usual trash again. He called Sultan a little kid. LOL.What a racist clown that Briggs is. I hope he gets knocked.

 

[Hockaday]

Well, sh-- and fall back in it. I thought this fight was on SHOW, but it's PPV. I really wanted to watch this one, but I'm not going PPV. Making fights like this PPV doesn't help the fan base, in decline already. So instead of watching the fight, I'll drive over to the river and see if I can catch a few shad, they're running now. Flo green or chartreuse sparkle teeny rounders with the red head does the trick for me. Shad are too bony to eat, but it's good casting practice and they fight like hell.

By the time I get back the fight will be over, and maybe someone will do a round by round.

 

[WHITE NOISE]

Any fighter that trains for a match will LOOSE muscle mass, not gain size. It comes from repetititious, anarobic workouts. The muscles become thinner due to overuse (note long distance runners physique.) Sham-man Briggs is on gear.

 

[Charles Martel]

You can watch it live on your computer. The fight is here:

www.corbina.tv/transmission

(each of the 20 boxes represents a Russian TV station)
click on "PEH TB" then wait about 45 seconds

It's on this TV station, the Chagaev vs. Valuev fight was on DTV here.Edited by: JD1986

 

[JD074]

The fighters of old never looked like that.
Weights schmeights--lifting heavy weights doesn't help you out much at
ring time.

Well, maybe they didn't look like that because they didn't think weights helped much either. For a long time, most athletes in general didn't lift weights because they thought it would make them slow, inflexible, "muscle bound," etc.

I believe Colonel Callan has made the point over an over again that part
of the implementation of the caste system has to do with looking the
other way on steroid use by blacks so they can outcompete whites.

James Toney failed a test. Justin Gatlin failed a test. Barry Bonds failed a test (amphetamines.) Ben Johnson failed a test.

From the way Briggs looked in his last fight, IMO, he was definitely on the
juice. He's 38. Trust me, its hard to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle when
you are 38.

He's 35, and he's been bigger for awhile.

He should be
declining (slowly, not like falling off a roof), not getting bigger and
stronger.

Should Bernard Hopkins and Roger Clemens be declining, too? Or do they get a pass because they don't "look" like they're on steroids?

Its a big deal in my opinion, unless you juice up
everybody and require it, its cheating.

I never said it wasn't a big deal. My point is that it's pointless to speculate about whether an athlete is on the juice or not without some evidence (failed drug test, Grand Jury testimony, government investigation, whatever) to back it up. And I'll say it again, it sounds petty and envious.

 

[Charles Martel]

I'm watching a preliminary fight on the link I gave above, it works! The Cruz fight is on now...Edited by: JD1986

 

[Bart]

Shannon Briggs just weighed in at 273 and looks even more steroided than usual.

Sultan Ibragimov weighed in at 221.

That is a huge difference in weight. It would be hardfor Ibragmiov to withstand heavy punches from a fighter so much larger. Nevertheless, I hope he gets inside and lands a barrage of powerful hooks.

 

[Liverlips]

Thanks for the link!

 

[Guest]

Fight started. Tentative action in round 1. Briggs with big flurry around the 1:20 mark, nothing doing.

Briggs 10-9

 

[PitBull]

I thought he was 38. My mistake. I think speculation is fine--people
speculated about Bonds before we found out he used steroids, HGH, and
speed. Speculating leads to asking questions and finding out. Just
because somebody hasn't been caught doesn't mean they aren't cheating.

I think it would be shocking to most sports fans how many athletes of all
colors are on performance-enhancing drugs, in sports you wouldn't even
think are affected by them. Hopkins and Clemens should be declining.
They're in their forties. People age and slow down. Its just a fact of life.
Physiologists agree that the athletic peak occurs in men from about
26-32, and declines slowly after that.Most guys who are older will tell
you that they are slowing down from thier heydays. I will. I'm sure there
are variations, but there are way too many players these days playing long
into their forties. It makes me suspicious.

I would agree that it shouldn't be used as an excuse if somebody we root
for fails. But when I watched the end of the Liakhovich and Briggs fight, I
was shocked at the size diffference between the two. Briggs looks quite a
bit more pumped up than he did in his previous fights. He's always been
a big guy, but his body looks different to me. Holyfield was the same way
when he was trying to gain wieght and move up to the heavyweight
division. I'm suspicious about just about anybody these days.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Liverlips]

Briggs looks so much bigger than Sultan. I have it 1-1 going into the 3rd. Both guys very tentative.

 

[Guest]

This is like a replay of Briggs-Lyakovich, I swear.

Round 2 to Ibragimov, I guess...

 

[Liverlips]

Ibragimov getting stronger and more active. Briggs sucking wind.

 

[Guest]

Finally a clear winner of a round. Ibragimov takes round 4

 

[Bart]

Briggs carries his left so low and his entire side is wide open for Sultan to exploit with a hook. Kind of a boring fight at this point.

 

[Guest]

Ibragimov wins round 5.

This makes Taylor-Spinks look downright scintilating by comparison.

 

[Liverlips]

Iggy taking control. Shannon very tired already.

 

[Guest]

Iggy opens up on Briggs a bit in round 6.

He's clearly won the last 3.

 

[Bart]

At least in rd 6 Ibraginov landed a few hard lefts to Briggs mug. He should have won this round easily.

 

[Guest]

More epic boredom in round 7. Sultan takes another.

 

[Liverlips]

Another round for Iggy. We'll have all the titles if it keeps up.

 

[Guest]

Round 8 close but I have Sultan outworking(gag) Briggs.