Safeties - 2010

Jack Lambert · Aug 7, 2009

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John Ehrensberger

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Chad Moncure

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Nathan Carpenter

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Cameron Dejean (Tulane)

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Ryan Harper

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Sal Belfonte

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Christian Cummings (Air Force)

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Houston Pruitt

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celticdb15 · Aug 7, 2009

Jack looking at John Drexel i was not that impressed with his measurables, than i found this black safety and they are almost identical size and speed but notice how many offers he has.. And so it goes on. http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=4156502

celticdb15 · Aug 7, 2009

Not to get off topic, I will deffinitely try to keep an eye out for some of the guys you mentioned! You never know which guys can make an impact and some of the guys linked have all the tools IF given a chance

Jack Lambert · Aug 7, 2009

Good find, Celtic. The double standard is just ridiculous. Drexel isn't even a Div-1 prospect, another black with mostly same measurables has 5- offers to choose from.

Of the four safeties I listed that have committed so far, I think Evans, Sosnowski, and Badger have the best chance to start at some point. Notre Dame and Nebraska both have starting white safeties at the moment, and Boise State is white friendly. Muncie may be used as a LB at LSU.

I want to see Collinsworth's son succeed really badly. I want to see if his dad would talk about him like he does other white safeties.

celticdb15 · Aug 7, 2009

"I want to see Collinsworth's son succeed really badly. I want to see if his dad would talk about him like he does other white safeties." Good point, if he bashes his own son as not being athletic
enough he is a complete tool. What kind of bull sh*t is that if a star white receiverfrom the 80'sbashes his son as not being athletic enough to play the game in 2010? The thought of that sickens me, when i become a parent i will tell my kids they can do anything they want if they put their heart and soul into it, and if becoming a (white)runnungback at the college or NFL level is their dream, so be it!

Jack Lambert · Nov 1, 2009

I've updated the list. More safeties have committed, and I've added some more too.

Deadlift · Nov 1, 2009

Nice thread!

Michael Schrang is also a Louisiana Tech commit.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/louisianatech/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Schrang-85255

STUNNA · Nov 10, 2009

Brishen matthews Monticello, AR- committed to ole miss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zKupfswekg

Jack Lambert · Nov 10, 2009

Why did he go to New Miss for Houston Nutt to ruin his life and career?

STUNNA · Nov 10, 2009

Jack Lambert said:
Why did he go to New Miss for Houston Nutt to ruin his life and career?

I guess.... he is a very talented young man.

ToughJ.Riggins · Nov 10, 2009

celticdb15 said:
Jack looking at John Drexel i was not that impressed with his measurables, than i found this black safety and they are almost identical size and speed but notice how many offers he has.. And so it goes on. http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=4156502

Solid point, but maybe they're projecting Easterly at LB, as he has just enough bulk to beef up to 225 lbs and was called "tough" and a "sure tackler". Also note that Drexel's 40 time is a verified time. Although his SS time is .42 faster-the shuttle time was still very slow. White safety Jamie Silva- who ran about a 4.8 at the NFL combine- somehow reportedly ran a sub 4 short shuttle before- which almost doesn't seem possible with that 40 time! At only 169 lbs. Drexel's frame is too light to add the bulk for LB. I cannot find if Easterly's measurables are from a verified combine.

ToughJ.Riggins · Nov 10, 2009

The most ridiculous caste scenario I've ever seen though, is JC's Jatasun Beachum example. An Arkansas tailback "prospect" who weighs in the 275-300 lb. range- who runs a 4.8 "at best" and was a QB in H.S who never eclipsed 500 yards rushing in a season. I think Beachum never even eclipsed a 3.5 YPC rush average either. CaucasianRivals= utter insanity- has ranked this lard ass almost as high numerically as Sam McGuffie, Rex Burkhead and Brandon Wegher and it appears a little higher than Brandon Bourbon (although Beachum is technically listed as an "Athlete" not a tailback). I think I had a good example with the over-hyping of "RB" Brad Rogers also- and I even reviewed his film in depth to be sure.

ToughJ.Riggins · Nov 10, 2009

Here is the thread on Brad Rogers:

White Rivals Racist Propaganda

We should also note that Tyler Gaffney rushed for 2880 yards as a senior on 9.7 YPC with 48 TDs. This included a 300 yard rushing performance in the state title game, leading his team to victory. Rogers ran for 594 yards on 5.2 YPC with 6 TDs as a senior. Yeah, and Rogers is a tailback and Gaffney is a fullback prospect..right Rivals? Yeah, and Jessica Simpson is smarter than Albert Einstein.

STUNNA · Nov 11, 2009

ToughJ.Riggins said:
The most ridiculous caste scenario I've ever seen though, is JC's Jatasun Beachum example. An Arkansas tailback "prospect" who weighs in the 275-300 lb. range- who runs a 4.8 "at best" and was a QB in H.S who never eclipsed 500 yards rushing in a season. I think Beachum never even eclipsed a 3.5 YPC rush average either. CaucasianRivals= utter insanity- has ranked this lard ass almost as high numerically as Sam McGuffie, Rex Burkhead and Brandon Wegher and it appears a little higher than Brandon Bourbon (although Beachum is technically listed as an "Athlete" not a tailback). I think I had a good example with the over-hyping of "RB" Brad Rogers also- and I even reviewed his film in depth to be sure.

He has very good feet for a big man. Arkansas is his favorite because they are willing to give him a shot at RB.

ToughJ.Riggins · Nov 11, 2009

Maybe STUNNA, but he belongs at DT or DE with that extra baby fat, huge size, nonexplosive measurables and horrible H.S rushing stats.

BTW, Brandon Wegher may appear to be playing lousy- at 3.8 YPC on the season, but he has played well the last two games. Brandon ran for 118 yards on 4.7 YPC and 3 TDs against conference opponent Indiana. This last game Wegher had a clear cut 70 yard TD taken away from him on a BS holding call. He would have had a 133 yard performance on 6.7 YPC against NW. Even the announcer said "that defender just fell over, it was a good block". That TD would have made the end of regulation score 17-17 and pushed it to OT. Wegher also had a BS call take away a 19 yd run this season, so he should be at 4.4 YPC right now, not 3.8 without that BS. Although he's had an up and down season, Wegher is playing well the last two weeks. We don't need to see the over-hyped Rogers!

Sam McGuffie averaged 4.1 YPC as a freshman playing behind a "green" o-line- and with no passing game to help him last year. Just when he had figured things out, he got two concussions. McGuffie was also the best receiving back on the team and most agile, while Minor is the best power runner and more experienced. McGuffie outperformed Rivals "darlings" #1 tailback recruit Darrell Scott and Rivals 250 AP RB Josh Haden, who played for better offenses amongst other recruits that still get more respect than Sam!

Burkhead was doing very well as a reserve as the backup to Roy Helu before spraining his ankle!

I don't fawn over all white RBs, but most who actually get the "rare chance" are very good...(Other than Kyle Eckel, he didn't impress me on the Patriots last year).Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

SteveB · Nov 11, 2009

STUNNA said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:

The most ridiculous caste scenario I've ever seen though, is JC's Jatasun Beachum example. An Arkansas tailback "prospect" who weighs in the 275-300 lb. range- who runs a 4.8 "at best" and was a QB in H.S who never eclipsed 500 yards rushing in a season. I think Beachum never even eclipsed a 3.5 YPC rush average either. CaucasianRivals= utter insanity- has ranked this lard ass almost as high numerically as Sam McGuffie, Rex Burkhead and Brandon Wegher and it appears a little higher than Brandon Bourbon (although Beachum is technically listed as an "Athlete" not a tailback). I think I had a good example with the over-hyping of "RB" Brad Rogers also- and I even reviewed his film in depth to be sure.

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As good as three guys that played at TB as freshman for major D1 programs????? Come on man, the kid is a slow, lardass. Your response is that he has great feet??? If he were white, there is no way that he gets a D1 scholarship.

Jack Lambert · Nov 11, 2009

Certainly not Div-2 either. As a runningback, no way. Jatashun Beachum Whale doesn't deserve to carry Burkhead, Wegher, and McGuffie could run circles around him.

ToughJ.Riggins · Nov 11, 2009

Yeah, good point Steve B. How do we even know he could make the switch to DT or DE, when he was a "running" QB- and a bad one at that- in H.S? He'd probably be a Div. II or Div. III player if white. I could find no defensive stats for: "Jatasun the Beach(um)ed Whale is running it straight ahead"! Black Burg straight ahead!

And on Rogers- sure you could play tailback with a 4.65 40 in the Big 10, but not with a 4.68 shuttle and stats and film like he has. I think Shaun Green ran a 4.69 at the NFL combine and he was damn good for Iowa!

Jack Lambert · Nov 11, 2009

Anyways, I've found a few more safeties to put on the list. Another update today.

FootballDad · Nov 11, 2009

STUNNA said:
ToughJ.Riggins said:

The most ridiculous caste scenario I've ever seen though, is JC's Jatasun Beachum example.

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He has very good feet for a big man. Arkansas is his favorite because they are willing to give him a shot at RB.

I like this STUNNA fellow, he makes me laugh! Can we keep him around? It's sometimes nice to have a contrarian opinion to argue with/make a point on. Besides that, like I mentioned in another post, it's an "edumencation" opportunity!

celticdb15 · Nov 11, 2009

FootballDad said:
STUNNA said:

ToughJ.Riggins said:

The most ridiculous caste scenario I've ever seen though, is JC's Jatasun Beachum example.

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He has very good feet for a big man. Arkansas is his favorite because they are willing to give him a shot at RB.

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I like this STUNNA fellow, he makes me laugh! Can we keep him around? It's sometimes nice to have a contrarian opinion to argue with/make a point on. Besides that, like I mentioned in another post, it's an "edumencation" opportunity!

Haha its just funny that he is arguing that the fatass could even have a chance running the ball in college. He would have a hard time getting out of the backfield in the deeply "affletic" SEC. Arkansas is going after players they couldn't get before? Why the hell are they going after this guy?

Colonel_Reb · Nov 11, 2009

Ignorance isn't always bliss, as STUNNA points out very clearly.

STUNNA · Nov 11, 2009

Jack Lambert said:
Certainly not Div-2 either. As a runningback, no way. Jatashun Beachum Whale doesn't deserve to carry Burkhead, Wegher, and McGuffie could run circles around him.

Not once did i say that Jatashun is better than them three. I believe that mcguffie would excel real well at the u of A. Petrino likes big runningbacks so i guess thats why he got the offer.

STUNNA · Nov 11, 2009

celticdb15 said:
FootballDad said:

STUNNA said:

ToughJ.Riggins said:

The most ridiculous caste scenario I've ever seen though, is JC's Jatasun Beachum example.

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He has very good feet for a big man. Arkansas is his favorite because they are willing to give him a shot at RB.

Click to expand...

I like this STUNNA fellow, he makes me laugh! Can we keep him around? It's sometimes nice to have a contrarian opinion to argue with/make a point on. Besides that, like I mentioned in another post, it's an "edumencation" opportunity!

Click to expand...

Haha its just funny that he is arguing that the fatass could even have a chance running the ball in college. He would have a hard time getting out of the backfield in the deeply "affletic" SEC. Arkansas is going after players they couldn't get before? Why the hell are they going after this guy?

There is a reason he has plenty of offers to play ball. Obviously the recruiters see that he can help there program out.

STUNNA · Nov 11, 2009

here are his highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gn55nFqfUc

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