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Hey guys, just wanted to throw some experiences Ive had recently out there, and just wanted to get people's feedback and thoughts from this site on my experiences.
A couple weeks back I had a face to face discussion with a white male acquaintance, about the recent South African murder case involving Oscar Pistorius (which if you don't know is a white-on-white killing that has recently occurred in South Africa that has unsurprisingly made worldwide news headlines). Throughout the conversation, my acquaintance told me that "whites in South Africa are rich, living by first world standards and are largely unaffected by violent crime". At this point I informed him that South Africa is a third world country for all its citizens, with one of the highest rates of violent crime in the world, and that no one is safe from crime. I pointed out various examples of rich whites being murdered in SA (such as the recent celebrity Corrie Sanders being murdered), white land owners being murdered by the thousands, and also stated that whites generally have a need to live in gated communities otherwise they certainly will be robbed, raped, and murdered. At this point my white male acquaintance implied that it was actually white males who were to blame for South Africa's crime rates, because of a past history of slavery, oppression, and apartheid. So according to him, the fault of murders in SA doesn't really concern the black murderers, rather, it concerns the larger oppression put on blacks by white males during apartheid. By this time I told him that he was a "white black supremacist" and I finished by saying that Africa is underdeveloped because Africans themselves are underdeveloped.
Onto another incident, this one being online in the past week. I pretty much only post at this website, because I don't have enough time in my day to post on other websites. I am a huge boxing fan, so I do tend to frequent a few mainstream boxing sites for news and very infrequently I will post a comment or two. On one of these sites, I posted about white self hatred, white guilt, and the liberally-ignored Arab Slave trade. I proposed that North American phenomenon of white guilt and whites owing something to blacks is largely unfounded in the sense that 1) Millions of whites have also been enslaved 2) The extent of the Arab Slave trade is as significant as the European/Atlantic Slave Trade, so why should whites feel guilty over slavery when Arabs do not? 3) Blacks enslaved themselves and built a slavery network in Africa before visitors came. Blacks also sold themselves into slavery. 4) Africa and Asia and the Middle East were all "disadvantaged" by European colonialism, yet Asia and the Middle East have considerably higher GDPs and are more developed than all parts of Africa, what explains that? In my slavery post, I provided several academic sources in my argument, I used absolutely no swearing or derogatory language. For the most part, no one tried to refute any of my points, and instead opted to attack me personally or simply ignore the points. The only legit responses I received were 1 or 2 that agreed or half-agreed with me, which is nice to see. I also received one comment from a white Liberal that said something like "Arabs have no guilt over enslaving blacks because they say "inshallah" (God wills it), and responsibility for enslaving blacks is deferred to God".
In conclusion, I feel like you just can't win with white liberals/leftists. Even if you are academic, respectful, and logical (as I am) they will simply ignore/disregard your points. At this point I wonder how other users here feel about white liberals? Do you even consider them white or do you consider them more along the lines of being "traitors"? I do believe in showing people different ways of thinking, but self hatred is so deep in most whites its hard to get them to change their views. Personally, I feel that many white liberals and leftists dont want to be "saved" or shown a different way of thinking.
I have an extremely low view on white liberals, and quite frankly it almost reaches a point where I dont think they should be considered white. As a person who identifies as being "pro white" I have to be honest that I'm not pro-white liberal or leftist. These whites are lost causes and they should be treated as such. They are white black supremacists, simply put. And they don't want to change their views or be "saved".
How does everyone feel about this topic and would you care to share some stories you may have interacting with white liberals or leftists?
A couple weeks back I had a face to face discussion with a white male acquaintance, about the recent South African murder case involving Oscar Pistorius (which if you don't know is a white-on-white killing that has recently occurred in South Africa that has unsurprisingly made worldwide news headlines). Throughout the conversation, my acquaintance told me that "whites in South Africa are rich, living by first world standards and are largely unaffected by violent crime". At this point I informed him that South Africa is a third world country for all its citizens, with one of the highest rates of violent crime in the world, and that no one is safe from crime. I pointed out various examples of rich whites being murdered in SA (such as the recent celebrity Corrie Sanders being murdered), white land owners being murdered by the thousands, and also stated that whites generally have a need to live in gated communities otherwise they certainly will be robbed, raped, and murdered. At this point my white male acquaintance implied that it was actually white males who were to blame for South Africa's crime rates, because of a past history of slavery, oppression, and apartheid. So according to him, the fault of murders in SA doesn't really concern the black murderers, rather, it concerns the larger oppression put on blacks by white males during apartheid. By this time I told him that he was a "white black supremacist" and I finished by saying that Africa is underdeveloped because Africans themselves are underdeveloped.
Onto another incident, this one being online in the past week. I pretty much only post at this website, because I don't have enough time in my day to post on other websites. I am a huge boxing fan, so I do tend to frequent a few mainstream boxing sites for news and very infrequently I will post a comment or two. On one of these sites, I posted about white self hatred, white guilt, and the liberally-ignored Arab Slave trade. I proposed that North American phenomenon of white guilt and whites owing something to blacks is largely unfounded in the sense that 1) Millions of whites have also been enslaved 2) The extent of the Arab Slave trade is as significant as the European/Atlantic Slave Trade, so why should whites feel guilty over slavery when Arabs do not? 3) Blacks enslaved themselves and built a slavery network in Africa before visitors came. Blacks also sold themselves into slavery. 4) Africa and Asia and the Middle East were all "disadvantaged" by European colonialism, yet Asia and the Middle East have considerably higher GDPs and are more developed than all parts of Africa, what explains that? In my slavery post, I provided several academic sources in my argument, I used absolutely no swearing or derogatory language. For the most part, no one tried to refute any of my points, and instead opted to attack me personally or simply ignore the points. The only legit responses I received were 1 or 2 that agreed or half-agreed with me, which is nice to see. I also received one comment from a white Liberal that said something like "Arabs have no guilt over enslaving blacks because they say "inshallah" (God wills it), and responsibility for enslaving blacks is deferred to God".
In conclusion, I feel like you just can't win with white liberals/leftists. Even if you are academic, respectful, and logical (as I am) they will simply ignore/disregard your points. At this point I wonder how other users here feel about white liberals? Do you even consider them white or do you consider them more along the lines of being "traitors"? I do believe in showing people different ways of thinking, but self hatred is so deep in most whites its hard to get them to change their views. Personally, I feel that many white liberals and leftists dont want to be "saved" or shown a different way of thinking.
I have an extremely low view on white liberals, and quite frankly it almost reaches a point where I dont think they should be considered white. As a person who identifies as being "pro white" I have to be honest that I'm not pro-white liberal or leftist. These whites are lost causes and they should be treated as such. They are white black supremacists, simply put. And they don't want to change their views or be "saved".
How does everyone feel about this topic and would you care to share some stories you may have interacting with white liberals or leftists?
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, and yes maybe you are right not to consider anyone (even white liberals) "lost causes". People can change, and you are right about that. However, it is frustrating when you confront white Liberals with historical facts and logic and still they worship Negroes to the fullest, and take a leftist, anti-white stance on most issues. It seems to me like many of these white black supremacists don't want to change their self-hating views.
