60% of NBA players broke after 5 years

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60% of NBA Players Broke After 5 Years...



The NBA Players' Association met with the Toronto Raptors recently to discuss financial prudence among players and during that meeting cited a statistic that scared the heck out of most of the team. It was said that 60% of NBA players go broke after only 5 years of retirement! Are you kidding me?!? That statistic however is said to be an educated estimate and some players actually have a hard time believing it. The statistic could be used as a scare tactic, but it is definitely something these players should be paying attention to.

"Sixty percent is a ballpark. But we've seen a lot of guys who've really come into hard times five years after they leave the league," said Roy Hinson, the former NBA forward who's a representative for the players' association. "The problems are, for a lot of guys, they have a lot of cars, they have multiple homes, and they're taking care of their parents. They're taking care of a whole host of issues. And the checks aren't coming in anymore."

"Sometimes you can stop the bleeding, and other times you can't stop the bleeding," said Hinson, who added that many players associate with "too many 'yes' people."

We've all heard the stories of NBA players owning 15 cars and 5 vacation homes. The sad part is most of these players lack educations and support outside of their posses and families. Most of these players could use some legal guidance as well as financial guidance but seem at times to not be so willing. The players' association has continually proposed a financial firm that offers players free 2nd opinions on their financials, but getting these players to act has been a challenge.


Back in October, Jason Caffey, who made an estimated $29 million during his eight-year NBA career, was in bankruptcy court seeking protection from his creditors, among them the seven women with whom he fathered eight children.

Shaquille O'Neal of the Miami Heat was in the news recently with a court document representing his annual income as well as his annual and monthly spending. The "Diesel" pays $156,000 a month just in rent and mortgages on the various properties he owns or leases and another $1500 just for his cable TV bills! Of course Shaq is on another level than most other NBA players with the simple fact that he pulls in $20 million a year in salary but this still shows you a great example of the kind of money players are capable of spending.

Remember former Chicago Bull, 6 time NBA Champion, Michael Jordan running mate and top 50 player of all-time Scottie Pippen? Just 2 years removed from retirement, Pippen was back in the news looking to make an NBA comeback to a team that was a title contender. NBA teams laughed at a Pippen return which was later rumored to be based on his poor financial standing. The rise and fall of Pippen was so drastic that he was seen overseas playing 2 games for Finnish powerhouse, Helsinki ToPo to make a little cash.

Besides the fact that players fork out all of this dough for houses, cars and cable bills you still can't forget that many of them have multiple children from multiple women. This is yet another expense that must be accounted for and child support is one of those bills that doesn't go away for at least 18 years. Again, you can see how 5 years removed from an NBA career with 2-3 child support payments a month and you could run out of millions pretty damn fast.

Jason Kapono of the Toronto Raptors expressed his thoughts after the players' association presented their materials. "Going above and beyond isn't worth it. I don't want to be a part of that 60% that's in trouble five years down the road. It's a short career and I'm blessed to be earning a great salary playing basketball. But if it ended, my contract only takes me to age 30. Life expectancy is 80-plus. So I've got another 50 years. Do I really need to buy another car?"
 
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I would say that black NBA players are, on average, the least intelligent athletes in any sport.

The Latrell Sprewell story should be required reading for all NBA players.
 

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i find it shocking that anyone who earns more than $1 million a year would take out a loan to buy a house, let alone a car. Edited by: cjay
 

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This doesn't surprise me.

But then again, it's easy for me to say how much smarter I'd behave if I had 10 million dollars a year, because I know how to survive and thrive on a tiny fraction of that per year.

Money does crazy things to people. We hold back on certain purchases, certain wants, certain needs because we don't have the money in our account.

Even people who are otherwise responsible, educated, and experienced, and have a nice house and a couple of new cars in the garage and have their kids going to prep school still often have huge debts.

It's just life.

I don't know how much different I'd be if I were 19 and all I knew in life was basketball because I sucked in school or I never paid attention to or respected education, and all of a sudden I have this seven year contract with a guaranteed 5 million a year just for playing a game.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, watching all these spoiled basketball stars go down in flames after a few years on top makes me appreciate the fact that I did listen in school and, although I won't be a millionaire, I certainly won't be declaring bankruptcy soon, just because I had to have fifty tacky suits and five houses and a boat to compensate for my empty life and horrible parents.
 

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Many middle class lotto winners end up broke and virtually all lower class to welfare class lotto winners end up broke. The classic story I remember reading was a lotto winner in Timmins(Ontario), who won about 500K back in the early 80's. He was a homeless guy who ended up squandering the money within 1 year. The only thing that he didn't blow on his bender was his low six figure donation to the parish he attended...
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Kiplinger's magazine (June 2008, page 96) interviewed Lenny 'Nails' Dykstra. He's done well with real estate and options (Did they mean financial derivatives or real estate options? I can't see Dykstra doing strangles and straddles all day.).

He touts annuities as the answer for athletes and claims to know of no other athletes who've made good financial decisions. To help the situation he puts out a magazine, 'The Players Club', aimed in large part at athletes' wives (who, poor things, have to leave their husbands when the money is gone).

I don't know if I would put much faith in Dykstra's expertise. The annuity thing is worrying as it is a field full of nasty surprises and substandard returns. But at least the article brings to light that all athletes, not just in the NBA, tend to go bust.

The problem is big money in sports is relatively new and the infrastructure is not in place in terms of honest and competent counsel. There isn't the sports equivalent of Arnold Schwarzenegger with an estimated fortune of $300 million, the product of his ambition and savvy advice. Sports is instead at the point of development when Doris Day lost her entire fortune to a nice Brooklyn boy she trusted.

The sports leagues could do a great service by implementing a mandatory savings program of at least 70% of gross pay into tax-deferred accounts. But that won't happen, I suspect in large part because the owners, agents and advisors tend to be nice Brooklyn boys themselves and gain little from financially independent employees.
 

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Hard to feel pity for them--they had what? 10 years of multimillion dollar salaries?, plus 5 years spending their savings...well maybe they'll learn something.
 

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Charlie said:
Kiplinger's magazine (June 2008, page 96) interviewed Lenny 'Nails' Dykstra. He's done well with real estate and options (Did they mean financial derivatives or real estate options? I can't see Dykstra doing strangles and straddles all day.).

He touts annuities as the answer for athletes and claims to know of no other athletes who've made good financial decisions. To help the situation he puts out a magazine, 'The Players Club', aimed in large part at athletes' wives (who, poor things, have to leave their husbands when the money is gone).

I don't know if I would put much faith in Dykstra's expertise. The annuity thing is worrying as it is a field full of nasty surprises and substandard returns. But at least the article brings to light that all athletes, not just in the NBA, tend to go bust.

The problem is big money in sports is relatively new and the infrastructure is not in place in terms of honest and competent counsel. There isn't the sports equivalent of Arnold Schwarzenegger with an estimated fortune of $300 million, the product of his ambition and savvy advice. Sports is instead at the point of development when Doris Day lost her entire fortune to a nice Brooklyn boy she trusted.

The sports leagues could do a great service by implementing a mandatory savings program of at least 70% of gross pay into tax-deferred accounts. But that won't happen, I suspect in large part because the owners, agents and advisors tend to be nice Brooklyn boys themselves and gain little from financially independent employees.
Athletes going broke isn't a new thing. Back when boxers were the highest paid athletes virtually all of the boxers ended up broke. Former heavyweight champions John L. Sullivan, Tommy Burns, Jack Johnson all were broke when their careers ended. Sullivan had to crash at a house that he bought for his sister. Burns had to hustle small cash preaching and Johnson was exploited by circus and vaudville promoters.
 

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Add Charles Barkley to this list. He is another former athlete that thinks he can turn 22 into a Black Jack...
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Here is the latest news on him.....Charles Barkley faces gambling debt case

By KEN RITTER - 4 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) â€â€￾ Retired NBA star Charles Barkley will face criminal charges if he doesn't repay a $400,000 gambling debt to a Las Vegas casino, a prosecutor said Thursday.

"We're in the process of sending Mr. Barkley notice that we're considering filing a criminal complaint," Clark County District Attorney David Roger said. "He'll have an opportunity like anybody else to make restitution to the hotel."

The posh Wynn Las Vegas casino alleges in a civil complaint filed Wednesday in Nevada state court that Barkley failed to repay four $100,000 casino markers, or loans, he received last Oct. 18 and 19.

"To date, and despite repeated demands, Barkley has refused to repay the $400,000," the complaint said.

Barkley is a basketball analyst for Turner Network Television who has made no secret of his gambling over the years.

His agent in New York did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment, and a TNT spokeswoman in Atlanta declined comment.

Wynn Las Vegas spokeswoman Dorothy Land also declined comment, citing ongoing litigation.

Barkley, 45, played 16 seasons for the Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was named MVP in 1993 and was an 11-time NBA All-Star. Barkley also played on the USA Olympic "Dream Team" in 1992 and 1996.

Barkley estimated during a May 2006 interview with ESPN that he'd gambled away about $10 million over the years.

"Do I have a gambling problem? Yeah, I do have a gambling problem," Barkley said. "But I don't consider it a problem because I can afford to gamble."

He said he never bet on basketball, and only bet in casinos. He called it a bad habit that he intended to continue.
 

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white is right said:
Add Charles Barkley to this list. He is another former athlete that thinks he can turn 22 into a Black Jack...
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Here is the latest news on him.....Charles Barkley faces gambling debt case

By KEN RITTER - 4 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) â€â€￾ Retired NBA star Charles Barkley will face criminal charges if he doesn't repay a $400,000 gambling debt to a Las Vegas casino, a prosecutor said Thursday.

"We're in the process of sending Mr. Barkley notice that we're considering filing a criminal complaint," Clark County District Attorney David Roger said. "He'll have an opportunity like anybody else to make restitution to the hotel."

The posh Wynn Las Vegas casino alleges in a civil complaint filed Wednesday in Nevada state court that Barkley failed to repay four $100,000 casino markers, or loans, he received last Oct. 18 and 19.

"To date, and despite repeated demands, Barkley has refused to repay the $400,000," the complaint said.

Barkley is a basketball analyst for Turner Network Television who has made no secret of his gambling over the years.

His agent in New York did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment, and a TNT spokeswoman in Atlanta declined comment.

Wynn Las Vegas spokeswoman Dorothy Land also declined comment, citing ongoing litigation.

Barkley, 45, played 16 seasons for the Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was named MVP in 1993 and was an 11-time NBA All-Star. Barkley also played on the USA Olympic "Dream Team" in 1992 and 1996.

Barkley estimated during a May 2006 interview with ESPN that he'd gambled away about $10 million over the years.

"Do I have a gambling problem? Yeah, I do have a gambling problem," Barkley said. "But I don't consider it a problem because I can afford to gamble."

He said he never bet on basketball, and only bet in casinos. He called it a bad habit that he intended to continue.


Plus, he's racist and fat!
 
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