Damned Cuts.

[White_Savage]

Seems to me theres been way too many fights where the white fighter was winning or even stopped on cuts.

If we could just stop fights from being called every time someone sees a little red...

I mean, cuts don't kill people, multiple impacts from a fist made more deadly to the brain by weight of a glove kill and brain damage boxers. Mandatory brain-scans after fighting would do alot more to save boxers lives than being ansy about cuts.

I'm sure our white fighters would mostly rather risk bleeding to death in the ring, it comes to it, rather than have half their losses come from nothing more than having sharper corners on their bone structure than negros.

 

[Guest]

Seems to me theres been way too many fights where the white fighter was winning or even stopped on cuts.

If we could just stop fights from being called every time someone sees a little red...

I mean, cuts don't kill people, multiple impacts from a fist made more deadly to the brain by weight of a glove kill and brain damage boxers. Mandatory brain-scans after fighting would do alot more to save boxers lives than being ansy about cuts.

I'm sure our white fighters would mostly rather risk bleeding to death in the ring, it comes to it, rather than have half their losses come from nothing more than having sharper corners on their bone structure than negros.

When fighters get cut in the face blood tends to flow in the eyes. The punches that are the most dangerous are the ones you dont see coming when a fighter cant see the punches coming because the blood is flowing into his eyes you get a dangerous situation . Therefore fights can be stopped on cuts.


Anybody who knows something about boxing knows this .


But i guess you would rather see guys seriously hurt by punches they did'nt see coming.

 

[White_Savage]

Any white man worth his salt would die to overcome the kind of animal you wish to idealize as our athletic "heros", for humanity must triumph over the bestial, the folksgeist that builds parthenons and cathedrals must not fall before that of the mud-and-dung hut. With these kind of stakes, one individual life, including my own, is outweighed in importance.

Jess Willard is a great example. Not much of a boxer, you'll find no need to remind us all how clumsy he was (though doubtless you will). He got beaten and bled for 25 rounds. But his will kept him on his feet, and in the end, he won.

You see, THATS why we are superior. Not because we have muscle fiber A or our joints hinge at this slightly different angle or all the minutae of athletic performance. No, it's because the bred-true white WILL wipe the blood out his eyes to keep on fighting, hell, will hold his guts in with one hand to keep fighting.

Since we're so physically inferior, how else could we have taken the whole world over through violence except guts and brains, right?

That is the very reason you people, all of you, as well as these "hidden masters" you name in supposed jest, deep down fear the possibility that the bulk of the white people will fail to learn their "lesson", that they will cease to be ashamed of their genetic inheritance. That they will look deep into the oldest part of their souls and see that pale-skinned killer ape staring back at them, and know their own strength, this is the nightmare of all people who have set theirselvces at odds with us. You fear, because if this comes to pass, only goodness and mercy will preserve you from whatever fate the white race wills. White goodness and mercy, as well as ignorance, is the only protection you have now. But not being tempermentally capable of comprehending such highly-evolved societal traits, it is no wonder you don't wish to trust your existence to them.

 

[Guest]

Any white man worth his salt would die to overcome the kind of animal you wish to idealize as our athletic "heros", for humanity must triumph over the bestial, the folksgeist that builds parthenons and cathedrals must not fall before that of the mud-and-dung hut. With these kind of stakes, one individual life, including my own, is outweighed in importance.

Jess Willard is a great example. Not much of a boxer, you'll find no need to remind us all how clumsy he was (though doubtless you will). He got beaten and bled for 25 rounds. But his will kept him on his feet, and in the end, he won.

You see, THATS why we are superior. Not because we have muscle fiber A or our joints hinge at this slightly different angle or all the minutae of athletic performance. No, it's because the bred-true white WILL wipe the blood out his eyes to keep on fighting, hell, will hold his guts in with one hand to keep fighting.

Since we're so physically inferior, how else could we have taken the whole world over through violence except guts and brains, right?

That is the very reason you people, all of you, as well as these "hidden masters" you name in supposed jest, deep down fear the possibility that the bulk of the white people will fail to learn their "lesson", that they will cease to be ashamed of their genetic inheritance. That they will look deep into the oldest part of their souls and see that pale-skinned killer ape staring back at them, and know their own strength, this is the nightmare of all people who have set theirselvces at odds with us. You fear, because if this comes to pass, only goodness and mercy will preserve you from whatever fate the white race wills. White goodness and mercy, as well as ignorance, is the only protection you have now. But not being tempermentally capable of comprehending such highly-evolved societal traits, it is no wonder you don't wish to trust your existence to them.

I offer clear facts why fights are stopped on cuts and all you can spout is lame Neo Nazi tripe.


Why dont you try countering the facts i explained ?.

 

[White_Savage]

Actually, I'm Libertarian, not a National Socialist. I know you don't like hearing these facts about the races, it must gall you that some white guy is not only firing back at the 24/7 hate-whitey propaganda, he's doing it with extrodinary intellect and eloquence. Third, I know perfectly well the various reasons why fights are stopped, but unfortunately, it tends to put white fighters at a disadvantage because our faces don't make as good a punchng bags as *******'s, this I freely admit it, as you damn well know. So I'd wish they'd they'd stop on cuts less. The only possible objection you can raise to this desire is the absurdity that loving thy race is vice rather than virtue, which is also hypocritical since 99% of the ******** alive are so pro-black and anti-white it makes your hypothetical neo-nazis look like amateurs.

 

[Guest]

Actually, I'm Libertarian, not a National Socialist. I know you don't like hearing these facts about the races, it must gall you that some white guy is not only firing back at the 24/7 hate-whitey propaganda, he's doing it with extrodinary intellect and eloquence. Third, I know perfectly well the various reasons why fights are stopped, but unfortunately, it tends to put white fighters at a disadvantage because our faces don't make as good a punchng bags as *******'s, this I freely admit it, as you damn well know. So I'd wish they'd they'd stop on cuts less. The only possible objection you can raise to this desire is the absurdity that loving thy race is vice rather than virtue, which is also hypocritical since 99% of the ******** alive are so pro-black and anti-white it makes your hypothetical neo-nazis look like amateurs.

What inlellect and eliquence i gave you hard facts why fights tend to be stopped on cuts and you wrote a 1930s german novel.


If you know why fights are stopped on cuts why make a thread about it ?.

 

[White_Savage]

Can you read? Because there have been too many times when a white guy was BEATING down one of your ******* heroes and the ref decided the white guys cuts were too nasty. IMHO, if a guy wants to fight on with a freakin' eye-ball dangling out of the socket, that's his business.

 

[Guest]

Can you read? Because there have been too many times when a white guy was BEATING down one of your ******* heroes and the ref decided the white guys cuts were too nasty. IMHO, if a guy wants to fight on with a freakin' eye-ball dangling out of the socket, that's his business.

No its not completly his business . Boxing is a dangerous sport but people try to make it as safe as possible . Letting guys fight on when they cant see the punches coming anymore mean more fighters getting brain damaged or worse.

 

[White_Savage]

FACT: It's an anatomical truth that whites cut easier than blacks due to sharper underlying bone structure, but also that such injuries would rarely have anything to do with the final outcome of a real fight, that in a real evolutionary sense, such bone structure is actually an advantage, since deeply-set eyes, pronounced brow ridges and cheekbones better protect what's actually vital, the eye itself.

FACT: Many a fight has been stopped on cuts in boxing that had nothing to do with blood running into the eye, because the cut was simply too bad in the opinion of the officials. This is the custom in boxing, fine, but it is more of a disadvantage to white fighters than any supposed athletic inferiority, admit it. One of the many factors that makes whites dominant in MMA but not in boxing is that MMA simply doesn't stop on cuts to the same extent.

FACT: If we were truly interested in alleviating brain damage in boxing, we'd get rid of the gloves. The relatively heavy weight of the glove greatly increases the actual shock to the brain caused by punches. This makes the almost non-existent gloves used in MMA in actuality another reason why that sport is safer and less barbaric than boxing. It's also interesting to note that not only are whites dominant in MMA because of grappling, but most of the superior strikers in MMA seem to be white as well-the only differing factor I can think of here is the hand protection. It must make some difference, though I haven't arrived at an explanation yet.

FACT: The White people have an ethos, best embodied in the old saying "Return with your shield, or on it.", not that I expect a ******* to empathize with such a grim and stark expression of courage and self-sacrifice. Nothing can be as galling to us as loosing without actually being defeated.

 

[White Shogun]

White_Savage, I've noticed the disparity in knockouts between MMA and boxing, too, although I'm sure fits_fighter would say its because the toughest guys (blacks) are more represented in boxing, hence fewer knockouts.

I think the weight of the glove is one factor, and I think another is the determination and bad intentions that are thrown behind a punch by the punchers in MMA. They KNOW they can knock you out with a good clean shot, whereas in boxing in most cases its a series of combinations over a period of time which leads to a KO.

How many times in a MMA event do you see a so-called striker jab and dance around the ring? The jab in these cases isn't a punch in and of itself, its usually to set something else up - the haymaker or takedown.

 

[White_Savage]

"White_Savage, I've noticed the disparity in knockouts between MMA and boxing, too, although I'm sure fits_fighter would say its because the toughest guys (blacks) are more represented in boxing, hence fewer knockouts."

Which does not compute. If blacks were simply genetically superior for athletics in general*, then the second tier black fighters who aren't good enough to be boxing greats should still be making a killing in MMA. But that is not the case. The experiment has already been conducted, the sport has had numerous black fighters, but they simply are not as dominant as whites. Especially in MMA's early days, they weren't too selective about who fought, one of fit's great black hopes from the ghetto should have walked in and beat down all the whites for easy cash and bragging rights. But they didn't. Now either this is because most lack ability in this particular sport or because of lack of courage to enter an event this rugged.

*It physically impossible for one people to be superior at athletics, since the biometric atributes that help in one activity hinder in another. For instance, wide hips vrs narrower hips, bad for running, good for core strenth and letting larger-brained offspring pass thorugh the birth canal.

 

[Guest]

FACT: It's an anatomical truth that whites cut easier than blacks due to sharper underlying bone structure, but also that such injuries would rarely have anything to do with the final outcome of a real fight, that in a real evolutionary sense, such bone structure is actually an advantage, since deeply-set eyes, pronounced brow ridges and cheekbones better protect what's actually vital, the eye itself.

FACT: Many a fight has been stopped on cuts in boxing that had nothing to do with blood running into the eye, because the cut was simply too bad in the opinion of the officials. This is the custom in boxing, fine, but it is more of a disadvantage to white fighters than any supposed athletic inferiority, admit it. One of the many factors that makes whites dominant in MMA but not in boxing is that MMA simply doesn't stop on cuts to the same extent.

FACT: If we were truly interested in alleviating brain damage in boxing, we'd get rid of the gloves. The relatively heavy weight of the glove greatly increases the actual shock to the brain caused by punches. This makes the almost non-existent gloves used in MMA in actuality another reason why that sport is safer and less barbaric than boxing. It's also interesting to note that not only are whites dominant in MMA because of grappling, but most of the superior strikers in MMA seem to be white as well-the only differing factor I can think of here is the hand protection. It must make some difference, though I haven't arrived at an explanation yet.

FACT: The White people have an ethos, best embodied in the old saying "Return with your shield, or on it.", not that I expect a ******* to empathize with such a grim and stark expression of courage and self-sacrifice. Nothing can be as galling to us as loosing without actually being defeated.

Dont quote an ancient Spartan text to me buddy .


Boxing even though dangerous is not a life and death fight.


Barehanded fights result in slower matches and a different style of punching because of the danger of hand fractures . Old time bareknuckle fight where fought at a much much slower pace then modern boxing because of this reason.


Gloves allow a fighter to throw harder punches without fear of hand fractures


Most strikers in MMA dont have the defensive skills boxers do thus we see more KO's in MMA. There is not one standing striker who has the skill to cross over to boxing and have a succesful carreer.

 

[White_Savage]

The bare-fist can be more easily broken yes, but "slow" doesn't come into it, the bare-fist being a rapier rather than a club. It you'd actually studied old time pugilism, you'd see it wasn't the crude art alot of boxing historians make it out to be...in fact it owes a great deal to fencing and often resembles Wing Chun. The need to conserve energy for unlimited number of rounds however, would slow the pace.

Your comment about the lack of defensive skills is amusing. The problem is in fact, more that the fighters have too much to defend against. When you have to worry about kicks, elbows and takedowns, it changes things. Alot of the the "defensive skills" from boxing would be suicidal in MMA or the street, such as head movements that would just get you kicked, kneed in the face, caught in a guillotine choke, etc. Honestly, do you think a boxer would stand a chance fighting under MMA rules against a top tier fighter? And you still haven't answered my question, if the talent is so weak in MMA, why aren't 2nd tier black athletes dropping boxing and coming into MMA to push out all the weak whiteboys, making some easy money and being big fish in little ponds?

Your ******* supremacism grows tiresome. If you think whites are physically inferior to blacks, just come out and say so.

 

[Guest]

The bare-fist can be more easily broken yes, but "slow" doesn't come into it, the bare-fist being a rapier rather than a club. It you'd actually studied old time pugilism, you'd see it wasn't the crude art alot of boxing historians make it out to be...in fact it owes a great deal to fencing and often resembles Wing Chun. The need to conserve energy for unlimited number of rounds however, would slow the pace.

Your comment about the lack of defensive skills is amusing. The problem is in fact, more that the fighters have too much to defend against. When you have to worry about kicks, elbows and takedowns, it changes things. Alot of the the "defensive skills" from boxing would be suicidal in MMA or the street, such as head movements that would just get you kicked, kneed in the face, caught in a guillotine choke, etc. Honestly, do you think a boxer would stand a chance fighting under MMA rules against a top tier fighter? And you still haven't answered my question, if the talent is so weak in MMA, why aren't 2nd tier black athletes dropping boxing and coming into MMA to push out all the weak whiteboys, making some easy money and being big fish in little ponds?

Your ******* supremacism grows tiresome. If you think whites are physically inferior to blacks, just come out and say so.

Where did i say bareknuckle boxing was crude ?.Or that a barefist is slower ? . I said that with Gloves you can hit harder because you can twist your pucnches thus creating more impact without fear of hand fractures. With bareknuckles you throw vertical punches with gloves you you twist your punches at the point of impact.


And yes bare knuckle boxing was fought at a much slower pace why ? because each shot had to count and a broken hand meant that the match and possible a carreer was over . If you really studied Bareknuckle London Prize Ring rules or Broughton rules boxing you would know that .


And Bareknuckle boxing was'nt 3 minute rounds a round could end in 10 seconds if a fighter took a knee tocatch his breath and get to the mark in 30 seconds.


Dont talk to me about boxing bareknuckle or otherwise .


How many Strikers from the MMA could make it in boxing ?


Boxers could make it in the MMA if they learnt takedown defense and a modified stance. But no top boxer is going to waste their time going into MMA if they can stay in boxing . The only ex boxers you see in MMA are the guys who can no longer make it in boxing.

 

[White_Savage]

"Boxers could make it in the MMA if they learnt takedown defense and a modified stance. But no top boxer is going to waste their time going into MMA if they can stay in boxing ."

You could just as easily say boxers could make it in basketball if only they learned to shoot and pass really well....I say again, why wouldn't someone who ain't making in boxing "waste his time" in MMA? Surely it would be better to be a champ in MMA than an unknown in boxing.

How many ex-boxers are there in MMA? Especially amongst champs? And why so few blacks? Most importantly: What sort of racism keeps you from admitting that whites may in fact be superior at MMA fighting? Does your ego crumble if blacks fail to dominate even ONE sport?

 

[Guest]

"Boxers could make it in the MMA if they learnt takedown defense and a modified stance. But no top boxer is going to waste their time going into MMA if they can stay in boxing ."

You could just as easily say boxers could make it in basketball if only they learned to shoot and pass really well....I say again, why wouldn't someone who ain't making in boxing "waste his time" in MMA? Surely it would be better to be a champ in MMA than an unknown in boxing.

How many ex-boxers are there in MMA? Especially amongst champs? And why so few blacks? Most importantly: What sort of racism keeps you from admitting that whites may in fact be superior at MMA fighting? Does your ego crumble if blacks fail to dominate even ONE sport?

Those that dont have the talent to make it in boxing do end up in MMA. Those who do have the talent in boxing stay in boxing because even if your not a champ boxing pays much better and the more popular sport by far.

 

[Gary]

Ray Mercer couldn't make it in either sport! He still has nightmares about that whipping Wlad put on him

 

[Guest]

Ray Mercer couldn't make it in either sport! He still has nightmares about that whipping Wlad put on him

Well he was 41 at the time he lost to Wlad . And yes he did go over into K1 when he could'nt even be a bum in boxing anymore .

 

[Gary]

Mercer talked a lot of trash before the fight with Wlad-after the fight his age suddenly mattered.If he wasn't so dumb he could have got a good job!

 

[Guest]

Mercer talked a lot of trash before the fight with Wlad-after the fight his age suddenly mattered.If he wasn't so dumb he could have got a good job!

Whatever


You still havent answered my question about Tunney and Dempsey in which battles did they fight ?

 

[White_Savage]

Bullsh*t. One of your physically invincible ******** would surely recieve more financial compensation and glory for knocking out all the white boys in MMA than for being knocked out in boxing. It is a proven fact that whites enjoy greater genetic potential for strength and endurance, just as blacks have longer arms in relation to their size and harder heads. I say again, what kind of racism and insecurity makes it impossible for you to admit that whites have some athletic strengths?

 

[Guest]

Bullsh*t. One of your physically invincible ******** would surely recieve more financial compensation and glory for knocking out all the white boys in MMA than for being knocked out in boxing. It is a proven fact that whites enjoy greater genetic potential for strength and endurance, just as blacks have longer arms in relation to their size and harder heads. I say again, what kind of racism and insecurity makes it impossible for you to admit that whites have some athletic strengths?

The only one who is making this racial is you so i will but this simply in an athlete BLACK OR WHITE has the oppurtunity to chose between either MMA where he will be lucky to get a $ 10k carreer high purse or chose boxing where as a champ he can make millions and if he makes it in the top ten he can make 100 K purses he will chose boxing simple economics.

 

[White_Savage]

Fist: Are you really this dumb? If a group is genetically advantaged for X, then that group will be well reprsented at all levels of X. It's more or less undeniable that blacks are very gifted in sprinting for instance. You see them being dominant in all levels, not just the most elite. Is boxing as lilly-white as MMA even at the amateur level? Hell no. So there's really no explanation for the white dominance of NHB except that they are the people who happen to have the genetic gifts most suited to NHB. There's certainly no media bias or caste system to hold down black athletes in MMA, I imagine the promoters would LOVE to have a great black fighter to help make their image more PC.

You claiming to be non-racial is absurd when the fact is you apparently spend all your time on a website for promoting white athletes doing everything you can to tear down white athletic accomplishments. I say again, what kind of racism and inferiority complex makes good white athletes such a threat to your fragile ego?

 

[White Shogun]

Actually, a number of boxers attempted to enter the first few MMA fights in the UFC, as well as professional kickboxers. They got smoked by the grapplers. Strangled, arm barred, KO'd flat on their back when they got mounted and couldn't defend themselves capably enough with what boxing taught 'em.

Secondly, you're right, most MMA fighters aren't winning multi-million dollar purses, but then again neither are 99% of boxing professionals. In fact, a number of MMA guys will earn six figures easily, plus they get money from endorsements just like every other notable athlete.

The UFC just gave two amateurs a six-figure contract on national television, for chrissakes. Ever hear of the show, "The Ultimate Fighter?" These guys have already gone on to perform in televised PPV events.

Boxers fight for 3 minute rounds. Yes, thats a helluva a long time. The first UFC matches had NO TIME LIMIT. Now, they're usually two 5-minute rounds, plus an additional overtime round of another 5 minutes in some fights. I don't know about you, but I'd much rather fight for 3 minutes than 5, no matter what kind of fight I'm enjoying at the moment.

Boxers can rest in a clinch and can depend on the ref to get them a clean break. You clinch in an MMA fight you're going to get kneed, elbowed, or thrown to the ground and mounted. The only time the ref is going to save your ass is after you've tapped out, gone unconscious, or are bleeding so badly from cuts you're in danger of permanent damage or disfigurement.

I'm not knocking boxers, but you should think a little more carefully before you knock guys who fight MMA style, fitsfighter. Its a completely different, and much tougher game.