XFL is coming back

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  1. Extra Point

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    I think the best bet would be for them to target cities that don't have NFL franchises. Take the ten largest cities that don't have NFL franchises and have teams there.

    They should target cities that lost NFL franchises such as Oakland and San Diego. I think their plan should be to have quality football and not see themselves directly competing with the NFL. They should try to get popular local college players playing for teams close to their colleges.
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    The AFL succeeded, in part by sniping some prominent college players like Joe Namath. If the XFL has sufficiently wealthy owners there's no reason it can't do the same.
     
  3. Max#

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    Ciao
    aaf ha selezionato solo città nel sud, xfl selezionerà solo le città nel nord.
    quindi si uniranno in una singola lega e sfideranno la NFL.

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    per gli amministratori del forum:
    causa cambio email ho dovuto cambiare nikname (precedente max # 56)
     
  4. Deceptive Speed

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    Sorry but what language is that lol
     
  5. white is right

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    Italiano, Ciao!
     
  6. Deceptive Speed

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    Oh thought it was a typo, but thats pretty cool u can speak Italian.
     
  7. Max#

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    [QUOTE = "Velocità ingannevole, post: 731390, membro: 3633"] Scusa, ma che lingua è quella lol [/ QUOTE]
    Google traduttore :)cia
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  8. Truthteller

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    XFL is posting names in it's inaugural draft pool. Draft is early next week. 200 names were added today to yesterday's list of 200 (400 total). Reportedly, a lot more names will be added in the next few days? The league will only have about 360 players, so a lot of the players listed will never make a roster.

    Overall, the list isn't that impressive, from a DWF perspective (few big names) or CF perspective -- seems like the XFL (2.0) will be just as Caste as the NFL, CFL, AAF and even XFL (1.0), particularly on defense, where whites seem to be more scarce than the NFL: https://www.xfl.com/en-US/articles/xfl-draft-pool

    Here are some notable names:
    Dominick Bragalone RB Lehigh
    Nick Holley RB Kent State
    Reece Horn WR Indianapolis (Ex-AAF)
    Nelson Spruce WR Colorado (Ex-AAF)
    Fabian Guerra WR Fairmont State (Ex-AAF)
    Max McCaffrey WR Duke
    Flynn Nagel WR Northwestern
    Vinny Papale WR Delaware
    Connor Cook QB Michigan State
    Joe Callahan QB Wesley
    Lucas Wacha LB Wyoming (Michael Wacha's brother)

    Quick disclaimer: I don't follow college football much, so there might be more notable, talented whites on the lists I don't know. Perhaps someone like Leonard Fan, Shadowlight, Twenty Two or Red Raider can look over this list (and the updates) and find some more whites at "Caste Positions".
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    At this point, outside of the cucks that post over at Breitbart that want their hero's "to stand for anthem", I don't think this league will impress many people. And, again, probably won't be a must watch for CF members, by the looks of the draft pool....As far as all the Vince McMahon talk on page 1 of this thread, it seems all he'll do is run the business and broadcasting aspects of the league behind the curtain and "cut the checks". The roster decisions will be made by the head coaches and their staffs -- and there are a ton of ex-Caste clowns (Bob Stoops, Kevin Gilbride, Jim Zorn, Mark Trestman, Steve Spurrier) and black supremacists putting these teams together....Former Packers fullback/tailback Aaron Ripkowski was reportedly interested in signing, but has not been listed yet. With his luck, he'll be re-united with Caste @ss clown deluxe Bob Stoops in Dallas and never touch the ball as a blocking fullback!

    Great bigunreal post from 2013 that CF members and lurkers should keep in mind, as the XFL Draft goes forward, knowing most of the white players will be screwed over, even in this Bush League:
    Complete post by Big Unreal: http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/the-beat-goes-on.15985/#post-281268
     
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  9. Leonardfan

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    Just went through the 3 released groups of players available for the XFL draft. I believe there are two more lists released per the XFL site. So far it just looks like a ton of black scrubs - a very similar racial composition to the NFL. I have seen a few familiar names - I will try to add on to the names Truthteller provided above. Just looks to be another status quo caste league though.
     
  10. Red raider

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    I saw that former Oregon State WR Timmy Hernandez will be playing in the XFL. Go check out his college highlights on YouTube if you want to see some of the best catches and concentration of anyone the last few years in college football. Unfortunate that he was never even given a sniff from the NFL.
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    The players being released are just the players eligible for the draft - no guarantee any of them listed will be drafted. We will have to see what the results are of the actual draft next week. Will the XFL also hover around the 25% mark? Will it be worse?
     
  12. DWF Upside

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    Id like to see Ryan Nall play in this league. Better than wasting away on the practice squad.
     
  13. white is right

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    I recall the last league was roughly what the NFL was in the early 2000's, I do recall seeing a few more White running backs that were practice squad, cup of coffee on the 53 man roster types than were in the NFL.

    As for Rip, if he is regarded as a tailback or tweener type he will be in this league if he wants to be but will this league even employ pure fullbacks? I remember the last league glorified snot bubbles hits but will this league be Arizona Cardinals football ?
     
  14. Truthteller

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    Group 4 includes:

    Winston Craig DT Richmond (Ex-AAF star)
    Tanner Lee QB Nebraska
    Aaron Ripkowski FB Oklahoma
    Casey Sayles DT Ohio (Ex-AAF star)
    Conor Sheehy OG Wisconsin (Moving from DT to OG due to Caste System)
    A.J. Tarpley LB Stanford (Retired from NFL (Bills) due to concussions. Got a high paying finance job, but missed football and returned to AAF)
    Davis Tull LB Tennessee-Chattanooga (Workout Warrior; Ex-AAF)
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    Group 5 might be the best yet, for safeties in particular. Group 5 gives this league at least some hope of being more watchable than AAF.

    Parker Baldwin
    (Atlanta?) and Tyler Sigler (Arizona), who played really well in the preseason and should be on NFL rosters, lead the way. How can it be neither is even on a NFL practice squad? Jake Thienman, who missed summer NFL action due to injuries, of Purdue is also listed. No reason, in a fair world, that this trio should not start in a league like this......Here's some bad news for Shadowlight: Talented safety Chris Johnson was recently cut from the P-squad by the Texans, despite playing well enough to earn a roster spot. He is not XFL Draft eligible.... But I hope he can find a way into the this draft soon. No Caste system, all 4 of these goys are in the NFL, playing as rookies. Johnson and Sigler, perhaps at cornerback?

    There seems to be a slew of ex-NFL white FB's listed as RB's: Tommy Bohanon and Shane Smith.....Ryan Karl Mueller and Ryan Yuracheck sound white; both listed as RB's...Lightning fast WR Ed Eagan, who returned punts for the Giants briefly is signed up...Josh Sweet, WR, Washington State is also listed. I remember him being white?

    DT Ray Smith -- Ex-B.C star, recently cut from Caste Lions P-Squad.
    DE Jake Cersena -- Ex-CFL star, cut by N.Y. Giants after strong pre-season. Jumps from CFL to XFL!
    LB Greer Martini (Ex-AAF star)


    Here is the entire group of 976 players, listed by position, that are draft eligible: https://nfltraderumors.co/__trashed-7/


    Quick disclaimer
    : I don't follow college football much, so there might be more notable, talented whites on the lists I don't know, particularly at wide receiver and linebacker.
     
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  15. white is right

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    I don't know if the move by Jake Cersena is a pay raise as CFL players that are stars earn low 100k salaries, so a 125K salary would be about 90K at the current exchange rate. Of course exposure and 4 down football would be more favorable. Also many Americans that don't want to live in these cities in the off season also have to keep 2 residences and in Toronto and Vancouver rent is high and as far as I know the clubs don't help anybody out with rent.
     
  16. Leonardfan

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    I was surprised Parker Baldwin did not get re-signed by the Falcons - they have had injuries at the safety position all year and even when healthy their defense has absolutely sucked.

    It does look like the XFL is just going to be an NFL jr. McMahon is playing it safe and not deviating from the caste script. I do not think it is going to be a long term success though and McMahon is just wasting his money.
     
  17. La France Blanche

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    Looks like the new XFL is following the lead of the AAF league - all of the NFL's weaknesses with none of its strengths. It'll most likely end up folding just like the AAF. People aren't interested in a junior version of a league that's just as dark as its big "brutha." Nobody cares about the appropriately named "D-League" in basketball; it garners about as much excitement as the WNBA.

    If the XFL was even 50% white, it would actually have something to significantly differentiate itself from the increasingly coal NFL, and that might have been enough to start building up a loyal fanbase.
     
  18. Johnny_U

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    Just saw on plebbit that Terrell Owens is going to be in the XFL draft lol
     
  19. rockybleier

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    If Brag and Holley play, I’ll watch....
    If MaxMac (or acouple of the other wide outs) is on one of their teams, I’ll really watch
     
  20. Truthteller

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    Good point Leo, but reality is what can Vince do, even if he knows having more whites would be much better for business? Don't forget what happened in Atlanta in 2014, when Comrade Adam Silver forced fellow Lonsman Bruce Levenson to sell the Hawks due to a "racist, 2012 E-Mail". Why was the E-Mail "racist"? Because the owner feared large black crowds were scaring off whites and he wanted more white cheerleaders: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...acist-email-atlanta-owner-sell-team/15241591/

    Even usually race obsessed, left winger Kareem-Abdul-Jabaar came to his defense after being dubbed a "racist": https://time.com/3296175/bruce-levenson-atlanta-hawks-racist-email-kareem-abdul-jabbar/

    Ironically, everyone, including Atlanta based-CNN, praised the NHL's Thrashers when they hoarded Mulatto's in hopes of increasing attendance: https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2010/10/27/1778606/atlanta-thrashers-black-players-marketing

    Now, back to the XFL. Even if McMahon and his buddies know more white stars will lead to be better ratings and more fans, how do you make it happen with a hostile media against you? How could he verbalize, either publicly or privately to coaches and GM's, that he wants whites to get a fair chance?

    It will be ten times worse for Vince than it was for Bruce Levenson (Hawks). Also, how about the potential for "disgruntled" black employees eventually hitting him with a Racial Discrimination Lawsuit? Might even come from the wresting side, which would cost him billions? I think in the end, Leo, he will play it safe and the the XFL will be an NFL Jr. And at that point it will inevitably fail, despite the great TV exposure it well get on ABC and Fox.

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    France, I think by it's "strength's", you mean the NFL's tradition and decades of loyalty from clueless DWF's who worship team colors and logos much more than the actual players, just because their parents and grandparents worshiped the same teams? I believe this is even more pronounced at the college level. Militant black athletes like Dick Sherman of the 49ers claim "athletes are the product" making millions for schools, when the reality is college fans (in the SEC in particular) really worship the mascots, traditions, tailgating and even cheerleaders more than the players, who are just interchangeable slugs year-to-year.

    Five years ago I composed some posts were I speculated what would happen on the collegiate level if every college team was dissolved and turned into a minor league team? Would 70,000 to 90,000 crowds shrink to less than 7,000 fans per game in the same cities, even with the same exact players? http://castefootball.us/index.php?t...cement-of-colored-athletes.16418/#post-298918 (great replies below this post).

    Now think how bad it will be for the XFL, starting totally from scratch, with different players the DWF's believe are obviously sub-par? Question is how long before Vince fails with another drab, Caste league?


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    Cersena was a big star for Edmonton -- second year in a row the NFL took a star, white Import from the Eskimos -- in 2018 it was Brandon Zylstra, who was the white Randy Moss of the CFL. I figured after not even being offered a Practice squad spot following a strong Pre-Season, Cersena would go back to Edmonton. He did not. He's from Connecticut and has had stints with the Jets and Giants. Might be an ideal fit for the XFL N.Y. team, if they are smart enough to grab him. He should be dominant in the XFL, as he was in the CFL.


    I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt Bragalone get's drafted by the XFL, considering no NFL would even sign him. Holley probably has a better chance, as he stuck around a bit with the L.A. Rams in 2018 and even got some pre-season carries -- similar to A.J. Oulette last summer....I think there is a real chance you will see an uptick in talented white WR's in the XFL, as a lot of good ones were placed in the draft pool. However, good luck dealing with/getting a fair shot from Caste @ss clown's like Bob Stoops and Steve Spurrier? That's not even taking into account the anti-white black coaches they'll have to impress!
     
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  21. white is right

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    While reading a story about Oafdale Jones salaries of non quarterbacks were briefly mentioned and the salaries were lohttps://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27849868/cardale-jones-landry-jones-8-qbs-assigned-xfl-teamswer than CFL star salaries. So somebody jumping to this league from the CFL isn't doing it for the money, the story did mention that quarterbacks were getting extra money but no figures were mentioned......
     
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    I checked out that list - lots of practice squad/3rd string quotabacks - at least they are filtered out of the league (the NFL has been slowly building black QB depth from the bottom up for several years so to see some of these guys out of the league is slightly encouraging.) .

    It just looks like the XFL is essentially picking up where the preseason white purge left off.

    Some of the more notable upsider busts drafted into the XFL for their 3rd, 4th, 5th....chance at finally tapping into their upside are:

    Quotabacks
    Cardale Jones (widely proclaimed to be a 1st round pick after 4 games in college - now in the XFL)
    Tyree Jackson - another hyped up quotaback who could not hit the broad side of a barn. He was getting up to 3rd round projections for the 2019 draft
    Philip Walker - a mediocre 3rd stringer who can only read one side of the field and lacks arm talent
    Marquise Williams - scrub QB who started for UNC while Trubisky had to sit for a few seasons
    Jordan Ta'Amu - another 2019 draft weenie quotaback crush

    RB Christine Michael 2013 2nd RD 62nd pick
    OL Nico Siragusa 2017 4th rd 122 pick
    DT Will Sutton 2014 3rd rd pick 82
    LB Stansly Maponga 2013 5th rd pick 153
    OT Isiah Battle 2015 5th round supplemental pick
    OL Dallas Thomas 2013 3rd rd 77th pick
    OT Cyrus Kouandjio 2014 2nd rd 44th pick
    WR Jalen Saunders 2014 4th rd 104th pick
    RB Donnel Pumphrey 2017 4th rd 132nd pick
    TE Orson Charles 2012 4th rd pick 116
    OT Willie Beavers 2016 4th rd pick 121
    OG Cyril Richardson 2014 5th rd pick 153
    RB Matt Jones 2015 3rd rd pick 95


    As for the white athletes who were drafted into the XFL. Many are familiar names who performed well in the NFL preseason, college or other league only to be purged time (and time again in some cases). Shadowlight already hit on some of them.

    RB Nick Holley
    WR Nelson Spruce
    TE Scott Orndoff
    DT Casey Sayles (one of the more screwed over players of the past few year. Has always been a solid presence on the d-line during preseason and was an outstanding DT at Ohio U.)
    LB Lucas Wacha
    WR Reece Horn
    TE Cole Wick
    LB Greer Martini
    LB Nick DeLuca
    LB Ben Heeney
    WR Tanner Gentry
    DL Davis Tull
    LB Scooby Wright


    Contrast the list of white players that made it - not alot of NFL draft picks there to the list of black drafted busts who were chosen. I can't help but to root for them to all have success in the XFL even if it is not going to be something I follow closely. I believe the draft will run through tomorrow and it will be DBs and "open pool" that guy picked tomorrow. One can only hope that the XFL will serve as a springboard back to the NFL as I can make an argument that all of the above white athletes can play at the NFL level.
     
  24. Truthteller

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    WIR, this is the best link I can find regarding the XFL's salary structure. One player per team will earn $250,000 to $600,00. Three players will make between $150,000 and $175,00...ect: https://xflnewshub.com/xfl-players/xfl-player-salary-structure/

    Keep 2 things in mind when comparing XFL to CFL salaries: One, CFL plays 18 games per year; XFL plays only 10. That's a big difference. CFL teams play almost twice as many games. Second, CFL and NFL season's significantly overlap, so it is much harder for CFL stars to try out for the NFL. They have to wait almost a year until they don a new uniform and if they fail to make a NFL team, they lose at least half-season of CFL paychecks. XFL plays in the winter/spring, so they can finish and lose nothing giving the NFL a shot a few months after the XFL ends.
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    As far as the XFL draft, it does appear there will be a uptick in white wide receivers for XFL 2.0, compared to the XFL 1.0. Just looked it up: Only white WR worth noting in XFL 1.0 is Mike Furrey (XFL stats: 18/243 1TD), who would go on to lead the NFC (Detroit Lions) in receptions 5 years later. After that, I only see 3 white WR's on rosters Joe Douglass (not the Jets current GM, 6 rec/75 yards), current NFL coach Brett Bech (3 rec/30 yards) and Kevin Drake (2 rec/29 yards).

    Shadowlight listed 4 receivers from Day 1: Tanner Gentry, Max McCaffrey, Reece Horn and Nelson Spruce. Day 2 WR's selections include Flynn Nagel, Richard Mullaney, Brandon Reilly, Colby Pearson and Austin Proehl. Not all these Goys are assured roster spots. Most teams drafted 9 WR's, but will only keep 4 or 5. Also, there is still another draft next month for CFL refugees and released NFL players.

    I thought, looking at all the coaches, the least Caste might be June Jones of the Houston. Overall, he did not show that this week. Although he did draft white RB Nick Holley Day 1. As I predicted a few days ago, he'd be the white RB with the best chance in this league. Jones, a former NFL quarterback and head coach, had Zach Line as his feature back at SMU.

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    Leonardfan mentioned Sayles. I wrote that February 18th in the AAF thread, regarding Casey Sayles. Marvin X's longtime Bengals assistant and lifelong best friend is the coach/GM of the St. Louis team. As I noted above, Marvin was really effusive in his praise for Sales. So, no surprise Casey would be drafted by St. Louis. What was a surprise, however, is Marvin X's pal selected Sayles 2nd overall in the Front 7 Draft. Make no mistake about this, Marvin Lewis made this pick, to his credit.

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    Seattle: It appears Seattle Seahawks "pioneer" Jim Zorn is doing his best to "out-whigger", "whigger Pete". Don't forget, Zorn is from the odious Mike Holmgren coaching tree, which spawned the likes of Andy Reid, Ray Rhodes and other Caste b!tches. Those slugs groomed current Caste as$ wipes like Rodent Nagy in Chicago and Cleveland's horrific GM (Dorsey-Calhoun). Seattle selected 4 Poly defensive lineman Day 1. Only 2 whites at Caste spots are Greg Gaines' old tag-team partner at UW, DT Shane Bowman and WR Austin Proehl.

    Los Angeles:
    I figured Winston Moss would be the me most hard-core Caste stodge and I was not wrong. I expected him to be in the Dennis Green, Hatie Smiff category and it looks like I was correct. Only notable white at a Caste position is WR Nelson Spruce.

    Washington D.C.
    : Notable whites at Caste positions: WR Max McCaffrey, WR Richard Mullaney, LB Scooby Wright, DE Jake Cersena (Ex-CFL star), LB A.J. Tarpley and DT Kristjan Sokoli. D.C. drafted 11 WR's overall, so neither white is a "slam dunk" to make the team.

    Dallas: Have to give Bob Stoops some credit. I figured he'd draft like a "white Winston Moss". It wasn't great, by any means, but not as terrible as I expected either. Used higher picks on AAF stars DT Winston Craig and LB Greer Martini. He added rookie's Flynn Nagel (WR) and Ray Smith (DT) -- Ex-B.C star, recently cut from Caste Lions P-Squad. Team will be led by ex-Steelers QB Landry Jones.

    Houston: I expected better from June Jones. Notable whites include RB Nick Holley, DL Davis Tull and DE Taylor Reed. Might be a few more whites I missed (LB Ty Schwab?), but none are notable.

    St. Louis: Jay Hayes' draft was as Caste as I expected. Good luck filling a NFL sized Domed Stadium with this group of Caste minor leaguers? DT Casey Sayles, WR Brandon Reilly and LB Garrett Dooley are the only notable whites at Caste positions.

    Tampa Bay:
    Lonsman Marc Trestman and the eccentric Jerry Glanville (Def. Cor) run this team. Notable whites at a Caste positions are WR Reece Horn (Ex-AAF Star) and CFL refugees LB Lucas Wacha and DE Jason Neill, who all were selected Day 1.

    New York: Led by ex-NFL offensive guru Kevin Gilbride, this might be the best of this sorry Caste league. Notable whites at a Caste positions include WR Tanner Gentry, LB Nick DeLuca and LB Ben Heeney picked Day 1. Heeney was selected first round. Day 2 picks featured RB Tommy Bohanon, DE Ryan Mueller, LB Frank Ginda and WR Colby Pearson
     
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