WORLD CUP

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  1. Weltner

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    Don't yopu just love the "Say No To Racism" banner,displayed on the field before every match?

    This means,of course,say-no-to-racism-against-the po',po' blacks,and the psychological and emotional damage it supposedly does to them.Well,if,as the black racist devil groups claim that the black "man" is God,then how can a few soccer players or any black so-called "athletes" be hurt by verebal insults,or having garbage thrown at them?Hmmmmmmmm.... [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  2. white is right

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    Birchall is British he has a british accent he represents Trinidad because his mother was born there under the colonial rule. But funny enough he is there best striker....... [​IMG]
     
  3. cjay

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    netherlands is not all white. a north african, a mulato and a
    half malay all saw playing time in their first match.
    sweden has a mulato, some middle eastern type(probably iranian) and a
    bosnian muslim. switzerland played one negro. they
    also have two albanians and a turk on their roster, not sure if they
    played. portugal has one black and spain has one mulato.
    argentina has several mestizos.



    go to the player profiles on the official web sight to see the
    backgrounds of each player. the only all white teams are poland,
    australia, italy, ukraine, czech republic, croatia and serbia.
     
  4. Matra1

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    Jimmy Chitwood,

    Fair point about Onyewu - I watched a replay of parts of the match and you're right about him. He had a bad match.

    johnson had one decent shot that missed, but so what? Josh Woolf played equally as well, as coach Arena mentioned, but not only did you not mention him, shouldn't the US be to the point where we don't get humiliated on the world stage?

    Johnson had several shots, though one was blocked. He was also good (by the team standard!) with and off the ball. He didn't get much help. In general the service was poor with many crosses into the box being downright awful. Josh Wolf was OK but nothing more. In fairness to him he wasn't on as long as Johnson as he only appeared after the third goal when there was little fight left in the team. But at least there seemed to be some life in him.

    I neglected to mention Landon Donovan. On a couple of occasions when he got the ball there was a sudden spark but unfortunately he only seemed to get the ball a couple of times in the entire match! Is he being put in the right position for him? Claudio Reyna had a decent enough match. But at this level a couple of decent players just isn't good enough. Especially when you're in a group that includes the Czechs and Italians.

    netherlands is not all white

    True, but they are a heck of a lot whiter than they used to be. I've followed the Dutch national team since I saw them play around 1977 and this is perhaps the whitest Dutch team since the early 80s.

    The French team is just about all non-white. But even during the 70s I remember a couple of blacks on their team when few other European teams featured any. One of the reasons for this is that white French are not as enthusiastic about soccer as most other Europeans. Many white French prefer rugby, tennis, cycling, and motor sports whereas most of their minorities only play and follow soccer and nothing else.
     
  5. Jimmy Chitwood

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    cjay wrote: netherlands is not all white. a north african, a mulato and a half malay all saw playing time in their first match.sweden has a mulato, some middle eastern type(probably iranian) and a bosnian muslim.switzerland played one negro. they also have two albanians and a turk on their roster, not sure if they played. portugal has one black and spain has one mulato. argentina has several mestizos.

    you may very well be correct, however each of the teams i mentioned started 11 white players. that's about as white as a team can get. [​IMG] and that's good enough for me! all of those teams are predominantly white regardless, so put your hands together for their continued success. [​IMG]

    i didn't mention Switzerland at all, although they did start ten white players, as best i can tell (the exception was black defender johan djourou.) the Swiss draw with France was a big time upset! congratulations to those guys! [​IMG] and Croatia gave Brazil everything they could handle, making the best team in the world look very beatable. they completely took Brazil out of their game in the second half. i'm hoping they make it out of their group.

    Matra1 wrote: Johnson had several shots, though one was blocked. He was also good (by the team standard!) with and off the ball. He didn't get much help. In general the service was poor with many crosses into the box being downright awful. Josh Wolf was OK but nothing more.

    yes, johnson had several shots because he's the soccer equivalent of allen iverson, but only one was close enough to register on the stat sheet; the rest were his typical sprays toward only God knows where! and a blocked shot by a defender means absolutely nothing except that the defender beat him on that play. as for his not getting much help, you are correct, but none of the forwards did. our midfielders sucked! but he did receive a nice pass on his only good shot attempt, i believe it was from Convey...

    i guess, by the team's standard he was good, but that isn't exactly a compliment. we stunk it up. [​IMG] as for my noting Josh Woolf, i did so after coach Arena singled him out for praise, and i think he knows more about the game than i do. so i'll leave it at that.

    you are absolutely correct about the poor service from our midfielders, though. i don't think i've ever watched a match where Brian McBride was less involved in the game. he was the invisible man out there, and it was due mainly to our lack of service like you said.

    Matra1 wrote: I neglected to mention Landon Donovan...Is he being put in the right position for him?

    this is a very good question! i don't think he was in the right spot. if he's going to play forward, then let him play forward. he was playing some sort of weird hybrid role and did not look comfortable at all! in reality we started the game trying to run a 4-5-1 formation, and it looked awful! furthermore, beasley was also out of position. he has never had much succes on that side of the field, and it showed again in this game. he needs to be flipped to the opposite side where he can use his natural foot better.Edited by: Jimmy Chitwood
     
  6. StaleyWasScrewd

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    Uh, Bosnian Muslims are white. And so is Zlatan Ibrahimovic. And Rami Shaaban (I assume he's the "Middle Eastern type" to which you refer) is half-Finnish, half-Egyptian. Doesn't look non-white at all. Sure, they're not ethnically Swedish, but that doesn't mean they're not white.
     
  7. OC football

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    Yah Muslim Bosnian's are white with the exception of a small minority who are the direct decendants of the Ottoman invasion. I would perfer that the Sweedish team be comprised of Sweeds only but national teams tend to shop for the best tallent that they can find. Notice the Croation team had an Austrailian and the Austrailian team had a cupple Croation's. Angola had a cupple guys from Portugal.

    Although I dont perfer this situation, every European team with the exception of France starts at least 9 whites. Many nations outside of Europe also have good white players. Notice that the one goal scored for Brazil was by the teams Spanish looking guy (KaKa), granted he may be mestizo.

    So far so good here. I will be pulling for Poland to beat Germany and stay in this thing.
     
  8. cjay

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    scratch italy from the all white list. camoranesi is an
    agrentinian mestizo. gradual hybridization with mestizos and
    arabs is a greater long term threat to europe than coal black africans
    that really stand out as different. accepting half arabs and muslims
    into sweden will eventually lead to sweden becoming like turkey.
     
  9. Jimmy Chitwood

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    what a game between Germany and Poland today! Poland's goalkeeper,Artur Boruc, was phenomenal!

    sadly for the Poles, they had to play a man short after one of their guys, Radaslow Sobolewski, got shown his second yellow card and was sent off. Boruc kept them in it with an almost superhuman effort, but the Germans' relentless attack kept the pressure on and eventually came up with the winning goal in stoppage time. wow!

    congrats to goal-scorer Oliver Neuville and Germany! [​IMG] and also congratulations to a valiant effort by Poland in the loss. [​IMG] what an amazing game!
     
  10. sunshine

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    Amusing and informative posts. Got to say I wish I was there. I mean big breasted German girls drinking the greatest beer ever out of mugs as big as our pitchers. Oh yeh the World cup. Not an expert either but if we break it all down to three races then the Iranians are white are they not?
    Robben of the Netherlands can fly. I would love to see a Germany-England final what a hoot that would be. So far pretty good results although Ukraine what was that today.
    Oh and I would bench Beasley's ass. Convey-Woolf-Landon--I say let them be the focus. I am so sick of hearing about Beasley and his "speed." Convey and or Woolf might be faster.
     
  11. white is right

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    You know this happened centuries ago hence the term black irish. I myself being of partial spanish ancestry must have some moor blood, almost all of north eastern europeans have mongolian or tatar blood in them. The English have Roman/German/French/Arab and Celtic blood, I could go on but what we regard as Southern European is really mongrel European and African blood...
     
  12. C Darwin

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    These posts are reminding me of Dennis Hopper in True
    Romance
     
  13. OC football

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    In response to white is right

    Genetic testing has confirmened that the "Black Irish" are of partial Basque decent. The Basque people being a group in northern Spain with dark hair, light eyes, and tan skin. The Basque people puzzel genetic scientists because they seem to have no direct relation to any other groups within or outside of Euorpe.

    Northern Germanic tribes do have some tatar blood but it is to the tune of only 1-2 percent, on average. This number seems to be on the decline for unknown reason, possible sexual preference.

    Understand that white genes are all recessive therefore small amounts of foreign blood will always be evident. Southern Europeans have actually have little Eastern or Arab blood in them. They seem to be a group unto themselves within the Indo European subgoup of the greater Caucasion race. Recent DNA tests show that Southern Europeans are of 8% arab decent and 2% tatar/eatern decent, hence many Italians/Spaniards have got brown hair or at least highlights. They also may have blue eyes something not found in the Middle East except in very very rare circumstances.

    People will argue that the tall blond and blue eyed people that exist today will disappear. They forget that it has exists for a reason, has sustained. The advantage to having recessive genes is you can tell who is white and who is not. Once a mans blood is tainted it becomes very unlikely that subsequent generations will return to the European subset.
     
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    "Understand that white genes are all recessive therefore small amounts of foreign blood will always be evident. Southern Europeans have actually have little Eastern or Arab blood in them. They seem to be a group unto themselves within the Indo European subgoup of the greater Caucasion race. Recent DNA tests show that Southern Europeans are of 8% arab decent and 2% tatar/eatern decent, hence many Italians/Spaniards have got brown hair or at least highlights. They also may have blue eyes something not found in the Middle East except in very very rare circumstances.

    People will argue that the tall blond and blue eyed people that exist today will disappear. They forget that it has exists for a reason, has sustained. The advantage to having recessive genes is you can tell who is white and who is not. Once a mans blood is tainted it becomes very unlikely that subsequent generations will return to the European subset."

    Your analysis of the Basques seems somewhat accurate but the above is 100% wrong. The genes for white skin and light hair are not recessive, as a matter of fact there are no special genetic markers that produce these traits at all.

    Blacks and whites share the same sets of genes(16 if I remember correctly) for skin and hair color, they just differ in the levels of frequency and thusly the ammount of melanin contanied in the skin and hair. Whites with blonde hair are at one end of the extreme, most African blacks are at the other. If you look at pictures of African albinos, they have white/pinkish pigmentation and blonde hair, very similar to the phenotype of light Europeans. Look here: http://www.michaelstevenson.com/contemporary/exhibitions/hug o/albino.htm

    Light colored eyes, on the other hand, are a reccesive trait, as is red hair. I think you misunderstand what a recessive gene is and how it is passed on.
     
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    According the liberal/neocon New republic blog on the World Cup some of the US fans had some pretty good chants. The US being fairly new to the sport have no soccer fan culture - the singing of particularly songs, rioting etc. So they seem to be using old refrains in a comical way. I laughed when I read these.

    To the tune of When the Saints go Marching in (a feature of football terraces for decades) they sang:

    Oh Deutscher Frau, is wunderbar
    Oh Deutscher Frau is wunderbar

    And the famous British "There's only one...("George Best" "Wayne Rooney" or whoever the star of the day is) the Americans sang:

    There's only one Claudia Schiffer
    One Claudia Schiffer

    Also:

    "Jaromir Jagr is a Girl"

    I remember watching a Glasgow Rangers v Celtic match in a room in a Canadian sports bar decorated with hockey paraphernalia. Our beloved Rangers were losing in the dying minutes when one Rangers fan shouted out "pull the goalie". Had the Americans chanted that in the dying minutes during Monday's match the hockey loving Czechs probably would've appreciated the joke.
     
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    Well done to USA for holding the Italians to a draw
     
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    And To McBride for staying on the pitch
    [​IMG]
     
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    Anybody notice all the calls that Brazil got over Australia yesterday? It does seem like the darker teams get most of the calls as someone earlier had posted. BTW, during that game the ABC announcer made at least four references to the Brazilian star's wonderful smile. [​IMG]
     
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    Iranian Soccer Babes! Check the Sand Money website for pictures these babes. [​IMG]
     
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    Kaptain Poop, you hit the nail on the head. Brazil's players were pushing, shoving and tripping their Australian opponents the entire game, yet the vast majority of the calls made by the officials went against the Aussies. The announcers were drooling over Brazil's flashy and quite clearly dirty players, ignoring Australia's team entirely in their commentary. If this is indictative of the way the Brazilians usually play, it's no wonder they are such a "great" team. It does seem that Hispanics are to soccer what blacks are to basketball; a lot of flash with little substance. Like blacks in basketball, they ignore the rules of the game and are seldom penalized for that by the officials who are supposed to enforce those rules.
     
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    Michael Oewn tore his ACL. Talk about a downer. Cripes more and more it seems the prime white guys from all sports are going down with ACL--(Baldelli etc.) injuries. Crap.
     
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    ..So much for soccer players being a bunch of pansies. That dude is as tough as they come.... [​IMG]
     
  23. onewarrior5

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    Soccer is great.Go GERMANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
     
  24. sunshine

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    Want to laugh and be brought back to earth. Michael Owen the storied striker of England who tore his ACL during the WC was telling his daughter what happened and that he was coming home to which his daughter said can you call back dad I am watching Postman Pat(a kids show in England).
     
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    How can France possibly be so black? Are there that many blacks in France? I'm rooting for the Ukraine, Germany and England, in that order. But mainly I'm rooting against Brazil, who has won far too many times and cheats constantly. They are a dirty, arrogant bunch of players.
     

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