Plummeting US Birthrates

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  1. foobar75

    foobar75 Master

    Jul 29, 2008
    Here's an extremely depressing article. It would appear that the decline of Western Civilization, courtesy of feminism and cultural marxisim is taking place at an accelarated pace. Whereas before I thought I wouldn't at least see it in my lifetime (I'm 34), I'm afraid it may actually very well happen before I'm 50 or 60.

    I'm bolding some parts of the article for emphasis, because it must be noted that this unfortunate situtation is actually taking place almost exclusively within the White community. Hispanics, muslims, and other third world garbage that has found their way here are breeding like rabbits. It's the White people who are digging their own grave and paving the way for their eventual extinction. Feminism is not only a leftist, hate-based idealogy predicated on displacing men from all levels of society, but it's also extremely effective in destroying the traditional family, or I should say, the traditional White family. I don't see any changes in the traditional hispanic family, the one with 5 children, plus a 6th on the way, shopping at Walmart and buying food with their EBT cards.


    Census reveals plummeting U.S. birthrates

    LEVITTOWN, Pa. â€" In 1960, the year Helen Cini gave birth to one of her five children, 15 other kids were born on her block here in this quintessential postwar American suburb.

    Kathy Bachman felt like an oddity when her family moved to Cherry Lane in the Crabtree section of Levittown when she was 5. She was an only child, and "everybody had five or six kids in every house."

    Fast-forward to 2011.

    Bachman, now 64, still lives in her childhood home. She brought up her kids there, but they're grown and gone. The house next door is vacant. Few driveways are cluttered with scooters and tricycles.

    "Out of 75 houses on the street, I'd say maybe 15 might have kids," Bachman says.

    Children, the mainstay of suburbia and residential neighborhoods across the nation for more than a half-century, are fewer and increasingly sparse in many places.

    The share of the population under age 18 dropped in 95% of U.S. counties since 2000, according to a USA TODAY analysis of the 2010 Census.

    The number of households that have children under age 18 has stayed at 38 million since 2000, despite a 9.7% growth in the U.S. population. As a result, the share of households with children dropped from 36% in 2000 to 33.5%.

    There are now more households with dogs (43 million) than children.

    As Levittown residents and board members of the Bristol Township School District, Cini and Bachman see the impact of a shrinking child population far beyond their neighborhoods.

    An elementary school, a middle school and one of two high schools have been closed since the late 1970s and early '80s; the latter is now a local government center. Enrollment has dropped 18% to 6,300 during the past decade. The number of public school pupils generated by each housing unit in the district is 27% less than it was 20 years ago.

    The school district is considering whether to eliminate full-day kindergarten, and layoffs are looming. Immaculate Conception School, a Catholic school, is empty. Four of Levittown's five community swimming pools are closed.

    Americans are getting older, and women are having children later. And when they do, they're not having as many. Births among Hispanics â€" they make up 23.1% of those under 18, up from 17.1% in 2000 â€" have not been enough to stem the overall decline.

    Because families with children tend to live near each other, the result is an increasingly patchy landscape of communities teeming with kids, and others with very few.

    "All of a sudden, there may technically be no children in the neighborhood," says James Hughes, dean of the Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy, Rutgers University.

    The number of non-Hispanic white women of child-bearing age has dropped 6% since 2000, and they're not having having enough children to keep that population from dropping eventually. Fertility has declined among blacks, too, resulting in a 2.3% drop in black children during the same period.

    A recent Census survey shows that white women are more likely to be childless than other groups and that black women are more likely to be childless than Hispanics.

    The drop in fertility is "a big contributor," says Kenneth Johnson, demographer at the University of New Hampshire's Carsey Institute. "Although there is a substantial number of women in urban cores, there's not a lot of children produced by them."

    The USA TODAY analysis shows:

    "¢Children make up 24% of the nation's population, down from 25.7% in 2000. The kid population declined more precipitously in 58.6% of the country' 3,143 counties.

    "¢The number of counties that had a greater share of kids than the national average fell from 1,378 to 1,247.

    "¢Even in counties where the percentage of children grew, only 49 gained more than 1 percentage point â€" many of them suburbs on the outer edge of metropolitan areas such as Forsyth, Whitfield and Newton outside Atlanta and Cabarrus and Union outside Charlotte.

    A University of Southern California analysis of the state's shrinking child population found that Los Angeles County is at the center of the decline because of difficult living conditions for families facing high housing costs during economic hard times.

    "The image of the white family living in the suburb is becoming extinct,'' says William Frey, demographer at the Brookings Institution. "It's an endangered species."

    Few jobs, few young people

    Here in Bucks County, a northern Philadelphia suburb that extends east to the New Jersey border, those under 18 make up 23% of the population, down from 26% in 2000.

    In the working-class neighborhoods on the southern and eastern end of the county, economic woes were felt long before the recession hit in 2007. In Bristol Township, steel mills and factories closed in the 1980s.

    As jobs disappeared, so did young people. The 17,311-home Levittown community that once embodied the American dream became known as "Leave-it-town."

    "Our kids went to college, and they didn't come back home," Bachman says.

    Communities that lose young adults also lose the kids they would have had if they'd stayed.

    The decline is happening not just in older suburbs such as Levittown but in rural areas and in some city neighborhoods, Johnson says.

    The child population slipped more than 6% in rural counties "where young people left and older people are left behind," he says. "Another place would be the yuppie county in the central city where gentrification has occurred and there are young, 20-somethings who don't have any children."

    When children are fewer, a community is transformed. Schools close, housing needs change, some businesses â€" from Toys R Us to day care centers â€" disappear.

    In Republic County, Kan., more than 27% of the rural county's population of 4,980 is over 65, more than twice the national rate. The number of under-18 residents keeps sliding and now makes up less than 20%.

    School districts have consolidated and two middle schools have been combined into one, says Brian Harris, superintendent of Unified School District 109. Now there's talk of further downsizing.

    Family farms still dominate. Few big companies are moving in â€" and almost no immigrants.

    "There are definitely fewer children," Harris says.

    That's not a good sign for the future, says Michael Silverman, partner and director of Integra Realty Resources, a national appraisal firm in Philadelphia.

    "When there are fewer kids in a market area, you're going to have a variety of supporting services go away and essentially die," Silverman says. "When you have a variety of retailers going out of business and people getting older, pricing gets depressed "¦ The way to keep a community going is to keep it young."

    Housing needs will change as a result of fewer kids, says Armando Carbonell, chair of the department of planning and urban form at the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy.

    "Lots of singles, lots of elderly, fewer kids "¦ What this does really is free people in their location decisions to a certain extent if they're not bound by school and safety aspects," he says. "It can mean growth in the central city where schools might have been a concern. More households will be able to locate to places without the attributes of the suburbs."

    Minority growth in the suburbs

    Had it not been for young Hispanic families settling in more corners of the country, many more communities would have seen dramatic declines in youths.

    Minority child populations grew the most in suburban areas, Johnson says â€" in mostly older and more affordable neighborhoods. Without the influx of Hispanics, blacks and Asians, "the population losses of children would've been even greater than they are," he says.

    Levittown sees modest signs of a revival that could reverse some of the losses.

    The rancher-style homes with carports that sold for $8,990 in the 1950s (no cash required from veterans) are no longer that cheap â€" but cheap enough to appeal to young working-class couples and families.

    Close to Philadelphia and to Trenton, N.J. and on a rail line, the homes are starting to draw Hispanic, Eastern European, Turkish, Liberian and East Indian immigrants.

    School Superintendent Samuel Lee says the district now projects 500 more students by 2018. In the meantime, he is fighting to keep all-day kindergarten classes open in the face of state funding cuts and dwindling revenue from local property taxes.

    "It adds tremendous value to property," Lee says. "It makes Bristol Township an attractive place for families to be."

    No kids have lived in John Maguire's house since the last of his four daughters moved out in the 1980s. Neighbors he had after he moved to the Mill Creek Falls section of Levittown in 1964 are still next door, their kids grown and long gone. On the other side, a series of people have moved in and out over the years. No kids there now either.

    "We've been through that before," says Maguire, 73, a widower and retired U.S. Army master sergeant. "Schools close and then population starts up again."

    But it's unlikely Levittown will ever return to 1950s and '60s levels of children.

    "Levittown was the epitome of Baby Boomers," says Jim White, 55.

    "Everybody on my street had kids. At no time could you walk out and not have someone to play with."
  2. space hillbilly

    space hillbilly Mentor

    Jan 27, 2009
    In the woods at my still.
    It can bedepressing if you don't look at the big picture. Yes our boat is sinking, but not as fast as the others. Jew's make up only 14 million and about 25% are mixing with other races.
    HIV is eating up Africa, the black poplationwill bein freefall over the next 100 years.
    China's "One child policy" will turntheir country old in just a few decades, forcing them to inport workers and destorying their culture forever.

    Thing's are IMO, really looking up for the white race, Eastern Europe has opened up and many of themwillover the next few decades start replacing the nonwhites for lowlevel jobsas the violence of the nonwhites becomes unbearable.
  3. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Mar 18, 2007
    New Jersey
    Yes Africa has a serious AIDS problem but their population has been booming, at least in the majority of countries in Africa. The US and plenty of European nations are helping these black savages. India's population is exploding and the US is sending quite a few jobs overseas to India. Edited by: whiteathlete33
  4. j41181

    j41181 Master

    Nov 23, 2008
    I find this a double negative all the way...

    Outsourcing jobs, and unchecked non-white immigration. No matter how much money, aids, and jobs are sent to these 3rd World nations, they can NEVER stand on their w/o such Western Aid and guidance. And if every Western Nation were to crumble, become mirror images of their 3rd World counterparts, what then? As far as I know, it's the West and JAPAN who really have the knowledge on how to handle and manage potential environmental hazards, epidemics, and diseases.

    The Jews and their white drones are foolish to think they can truly establish a NWO, One World Government, not if they are already loosing their SMALL numbers. Edited by: j41181
  5. Highlander

    Highlander Mentor

    Nov 28, 2009
    From today...

    The pope was in Croatia, delivering this message...a very good one. However, Croatia is about to join the EU and has the Pope's adamant support for that, which I don't understand. This is bad for Croatia because now they'll be forced by the EU to allow in thousands of immigrants, among following all of the other anti-White, anti-Male, and anti-Family EU rules.

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    ZAGREB, Croatia â€" Pope Benedict XVI denounced the
    "disintegration" of family life in Europe on Sunday and called for
    couples to make a commitment to marry and have children
    , not just live
    , as he reaffirmed traditional Catholic family values during his
    second and final day in Croatia.

    Benedict also voiced the Vatican's opposition to
    abortion at an open-air Mass Sunday at Zagreb's hippodrome, the
    highlight of his trip to mark the local church's national day of
    families. Tens of thousands of people, waving small plastic Croatian and
    Vatican flags, began arriving before dawn at the field muddied by
    overnight thunderstorms.

    The sun shone through the clouds as Benedict arrived
    for the Mass in his white popemobile, waving to the crowd as he looped
    around the field, which has a capacity of some 300,000 and appeared
    nearly full with faithful from across Croatia and neighboring countries.

    This is Benedict's first visit as pope to Croatia, an
    overwhelmingly Catholic Balkan nation that is poised to soon join the
    European Union.
    The Vatican has strongly supported its bid, eager to see
    another country with shared values join the 27-member bloc.

    Yet while Croatia is nearly 90 percent Catholic, it
    allows some legal rights for same-sex couples and, thanks to leftover
    communist-era legislation, permits abortion up to 10 weeks after
    conception and thereafter with the consent of a special commission of

    In his homily, Benedict lamented the "increasing
    disintegration of the family, especially in Europe"
    and urged young
    couples to resist "that secularized mentality which proposes living
    together as a preparation, or even a substitute for marriage."

    "Do not be afraid to make a commitment to another person!" he said.

    He urged parents to affirm the inviolability of life
    from conception to natural death â€" Vatican-speak for opposition to
    abortion, saying "Dear families, rejoice in fatherhood and motherhood!"
    He also urged them to back legislation that supports families "in the
    task of giving birth to children and educating them."

    His message â€" delivered mostly in Italian and
    translated into Croatian â€" has been received with a resounding welcome
    in Croatia, which Benedict's predecessor Pope John Paul II visited three
    times during and after the Balkan wars of the 1990s.

    "It's great the pope's here," said Karmela Sokolic, a
    young girl who said she arrived at the hippodrome at 4 a.m. to snag a
    place near the altar. "I just love the pope and I love that I am here."

    Sister Monica Zvonarek said the pope's presence in
    Croatia gives hope to all families.
    "He can encourage us, our
    politicians to enter in Europe,"
    she said as she waited for the Mass to

    Monsignor Valter Zupan, in charge of family issues in
    the Croatian bishops' conference, said Europe had been founded on
    deeply Christian values about marriage between man and woman, but that
    these values were being threatened by trends that favor "different types
    of living together which don't have any foundation in European

    Croatia has recognized same-sex couples since 2003
    and allows gay partners in relationships of more than three years rights
    of inheritance and financial support, the same as enjoyed by
    heterosexual couples who aren't married. There is no gay marriage,
    however, and gay couples cannot adopt.

    "We want our children to continue to call their
    parents 'mamma' and 'papa' because that's their natural names," he told
    the applauding crowd. "Children have the right to publicly state that a
    'father' and a 'mother' gave them life,"
    he said, adding that the church
    also had the right to demand the government reverse its abortion law.

    As he arrived in Zagreb Saturday on his 19th foreign
    visit, Benedict urged Croatia to use its new role in the EU to remind
    Europe about its Christian heritage "as a matter of historical truth" â€" a
    constant refrain of this pope who has made fighting Europe's increasing
    secularization a priority. He also urged young Catholics to hold fast
    to their faith and values and not be tempted by "enticing promises of
    easy success."

    Later Sunday after Mass, Benedict will pray before
    the tomb of Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac, Croatia's World War II primate
    whom John Paul beatified during a 1998 trip.

    Stepinac was hailed as a hero by Catholics for his
    resistance to communism and refusal to separate the Croatian church from
    the Vatican. But his beatification was controversial because many Serbs
    and Jews accuse him of sympathizing with the Nazis.

    On Saturday en route to Zagreb, Benedict praised
    Stepinac as a model for having defended "true humanism" against both the
    communists and the Ustasha Nazi puppet regime that ruled Croatia during
    the war. The Ustasha, said the German-born pope, "seemed to fulfill the
    dream of autonomy and independence, but in reality it was an autonomy
    that was a lie because it was used by Hitler for his aims."

    Edited by: Highlander
  6. Michael

    Michael Mentor

    Nov 23, 2006
    Very astute!Even many of our own ranks don't see the big picture. True the White birthrate has drop but there are still at least hundreds of millions of Whites!

    It would be interesting to know how of the "Whites" in interracial relationships are really Jews, but since the government classifies Jews as "White" it hides the number but it likely to be very very large.

    The world is in very interesting time so before long numbers will fall rapidly for those who can not support themselves will find that others will not support them. When the welfare goes many of the nonwhites will perish. We are in a numbers game where the number that you start with isn't important but the number you can support in a time of chaos is important.

    We in very interesting times.
  7. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Mar 18, 2007
    New Jersey
    I see what both of you are saying and I agree for the most part but how do you explain the exploding population rates of countries like Africa? Kenya's population has doubled over the past 25 years and most African countries are increasing in population like crazy. All this in underdeveloped, third world s-itholes with tons of AIDS and no foods.
  8. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Sep 30, 2004
    When AIDS first came about in the early 1980s, the professional alarmists in the media were saying that it was going to devastate the population everywhere. Whenit became clear that wasn't going tohappen, the focus was shifted to sub-Sahara Africa. For the past 20 years or so there have been predictions that the populations in those countries were going to sharply decline because of the spread of AIDS to epidemic levels, but again it hasn't happened. The high birthrate in Black Africa more than compensates for whatever victims AIDS is claiming there.
  9. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Mar 18, 2007
    New Jersey
    The birthrates in African countries must be astronomical. I imagine they are even higher than those of China and India. Many of these African countries have average lifespans of less than 50 years and as low as 40 years in some cases.

    Interesting thing about AIDS. Apparently one percent of Caucasians are immune to this disease. One man claims to have been "cured" of the virus. Here is the article.

    I can only imagine what happens if a true cure is found for AIDS and the virus is eliminated. Black birth rates in Africa will go much higher.Edited by: whiteathlete33
  10. Bart

    Bart Hall of Famer

    Feb 6, 2005
    White scientists, religious groups and multitudes of charitable organizations are doing everything possible to further the increase of blacks on the planet while our numbers are rapidly diminishing .
  11. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Mar 18, 2007
    New Jersey
    Bart, I guess whitey is required to find a cure for this horrible disease. After all, it's whites who created this disease to control the black population. Anything less would be unacceptable. I wonde how many of these stupid white scientists actually believe in the white guilt and want to do this for the bruthas.
  12. space hillbilly

    space hillbilly Mentor

    Jan 27, 2009
    In the woods at my still.
    Thanks Micheal, I agree that things are not that great right now for the European people, but I wouldn't trade the white race's position with any other race.

    If there isaconspiracy ( And I think thereare ) to destory the white blood line by breeding them with other races, it must of been the brainchild of Larry, Moe and Curly!
    Because it would takefive hundred years at its present rate to put the white race out of commission. And the trouble with a five hundred year plan is it gives only four hundred and fifty years for somthing to go wrong.

    Like you said we are in very interesting times and IMO, the smart money is on whitey.[​IMG]Edited by: lost
  13. jaxvid

    jaxvid Hall of Famer

    Oct 15, 2004
    I was at a high tech medical firm this week and it occurred to me that if white people are driven to the point of extinction then the few left will be treated like gods because if it wasnt for white people the world would be one big stinking pile of sh*t, heck it already practically is except for the places with lots of white people.

    If whites start to go away the smart browns and yellows are going to hoard them because without whitey they go back living like savages. Those parasites know why they flood into our countries.

    I wouldnt be surprised to see some black/yellow/brown dictator someday set up a whites only country so there can be some semblence of civilization left on the planet.
  14. space hillbilly

    space hillbilly Mentor

    Jan 27, 2009
    In the woods at my still.
    Whites are the first link in the chain.Whites invent it, jews steal it, asians copy it,
    and africans get it for free....
  15. chris371

    chris371 Mentor

    Dec 1, 2006
    Unfortunatly the browns are too stupid to realise that they need us to feed them.
  16. Thrashen

    Thrashen Hall of Famer

    Jun 4, 2007
    Yes, African birth rates are exceedingly higher than those occurring in India and China (combined).

    The highest average birth rates on planet earth, ironically, belong to Niger (no, the country), with an alarming 7.19 births per woman.

    Of the top fifty highest average world birth rates per woman (grouped by country), there are only a handful of non-African nations"¦.Afghanistan, Guatemala, the island of Samoa, the island of Tonga, Papua New Guinea, the island of Vanuatu, Yemen, Iraq, the Solomon Islands, Palestinian Territories, and the Federated States of Micronesia (island chain).

    There are no white nations in the top 50. Below, I've compiled a list of every single "white"Â￾ nation and their corresponding "world birth ranking"Â￾ from 2005-2010. Of course, several of these nations are "borderline white,"Â￾ but you get the idea.

    *Note - These statistics were compiled in 195 different nations, therefore, the nation of "Uzbekistan" is the "white" nation with the highest (94th highest when compared to the festering red, yellow, black and brown hell-holes) amount of births per woman...

    94 Uzbekistan
    95 Kyrgyzstan
    102 Kazakhstan
    108 Argentina
    109 Colombia
    120 Uruguay
    126 United States
    127 Iceland
    131 New Zealand
    132 Ireland
    133 Chile
    136 Brazil
    137 France
    144 Norway
    145 Montenegro
    147 Finland
    148 United Kingdom
    150 Denmark
    151 Sweden
    152 Serbia
    153 Australia
    155 Netherlands
    156 Luxembourg
    157 Belgium
    159 Cyprus
    160 Canada
    163 Estonia
    164 Portugal
    165 Macedonia
    166 Switzerland
    168 Austria
    169 Spain
    170 Georgia
    171 Moldova
    172 Armenia
    173 Italy
    174 Malta
    175 Germany
    176 Croatia
    177 Russia
    178 Greece
    179 Bulgaria
    180 Romania
    181 Latvia
    182 Hungary
    183 Slovenia
    187 Slovakia
    188 Czech Republic
    189 Bosnia and Herzegovina
    190 Poland
    191 Ukraine
    193 Belarus

    77 India
    154 People's Republic of China

    Of course, when factoring in the absurd amount of non-white births occurring within traditionally white-majority nations (thanks in great part to Zionism, Globalism, the Female Supremacy Movement, the rancid manifestations of modern white materialism, selfishness, personal greed, racial apathy, self-loathing, etc), one gets an even more depressing picture of the New World Order"¦that is, the deep Cocytus of hell liberated onto earth.

    Source: World Fertility RateEdited by: Thrashen
  17. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Mar 18, 2007
    New Jersey
    Thanks for that list, Thrashen. It's depressing that white nations are producing so few children. I believe during World War II whites were about 1/3 of the entire population of the world. Now it's around 10% of the total world population, or slightly higher depending on who is considered white. The government of Russia was actually giving away money recently to families whom have several children. Depressing but true.Edited by: whiteathlete33
  18. Highlander

    Highlander Mentor

    Nov 28, 2009
    Thrashen, glad you mentioned the fact that in these "White" nations these rates are actually inflated due to the massive number of immigrant invaders spawning at probably a significantly higher rate than the native Whites. And, you hit the nail on the head as to why the White birth rates are so low. And if it weren't for the Mormons and the Amish, the White birth rates in the United States would be next to nil. It's all so pathetic.

    It's amazing how gullible Western White women have become to the indoctrination and propaganda aimed at them, it appears they can't actually think for themselves. What's evident in all of these birth rate statistics is that the better the women are treated, the worse their reproductive rates are. The better their conditions are, the more they complain. If Western White women feel so "oppressed" in Western countries, why don't they try to see how life is like in any second or third-world hell hole? Why don't they go to and see how day-to-day living is like in Sub-Saharan Africa, North Africa, the Middle East, much of Latin and South America, much of Asia, and even Eastern Europe...and I'm not talking about slutting-around as a two-week "Sex Tourist", but for several years as a regular citizen? Maybe they'd be more grateful for what they have here and actually want to preserve it, but I doubt it.
  19. Michael

    Michael Mentor

    Nov 23, 2006
    "Assumptions" and "estimates" from groups like the U.S., UN and World Bank.

    If one assumes and estimates one way, the population growth rate is rising if done another way it is falling, which is correct is anybody's guess.

    Story like this "S. Africa AIDS Corpses Piling Up In Hospitals" "AIDS 'Kills One In Three'
    In South Africa" , "AIDS Deaths In S Africa
    '3 Times Official Figures'" "Africans Are Faced
    With Extinction By AIDS" "AIDS Chief - About 99 Of
    100 HIV+ Africans Don't Know They're Infected" "Has South African AIDS Slaughter Passed The 50% Infection Rate?" "AIDS Could Slash World Population Growth, Warns UN" "Mbeki Says He Knows No
    One Who Has Died Of AIDS" Whites To Rule South Africa Again? Famed Seer's Predictions Coming True" "India May Follow Africa Into
    AIDS Oblivion - 20 Million Dying Now"

    An article entitled "Breakthrough On How Some Seem Immune To HIV"

    The real problem we have with estimating the effect on third world nonwhite populations is "assumptions" and "estimates" have to be made. If one starts with population estimates from colonial times of nonwhite nations when the best estimates come from say the 1950s and then estimate the same birthrate add on a guess on the death rate and you get a population estimate. Now if we were to estimate the number of Whites in the USA using the 1950s birthrate during the baby boom the number would be higher than it is, so why do we believe that estimate on 3rd (Developing), 4th (stagnate) and fifth (devolving) world countries would be any more reliable?

    We have numerous reports of AIDS devastating parts of Africa massive death whole villages disappearing. On the other hand, we have major countries and organizations estimating that the population is booming. Leaders push AIDS as minor, except when asking for money, as a falling population would be bad for the economy and make them look weak.

    Interestingly, the establishment pushed AIDS as a major problem in eastern Europe as they had at first in the West but in both cases the cases ended up concentrated in perverts, drug users and nonwhites with a few good Whites unfortunately infected.With the powers that be, the White population falling is great but if the nonwhite population falls it has to be covered-up. What would happen if the census found say that the black population in the USA fell by a million in 10 years less than 1/30 of their numbers. The PTB would panic and most likely change the figures for if they didn't there would be riots in the streets.

    Governments and organizations can not be trusted to tell the truth, and when it comes to the third world everything are assumptions and estimates so by picking and choosing which assumptions and estimates are used one can get any desired result.

    We have had this debate before and it goes around in circles. For on the one hand article after article of the devastation that AIDS has cause to blacks but on the other hand one can point to statistic and estimates that the African population is booming, and likely even the PTB don't know what is truly is going on in the deepest darks parts of the dark continent.

    The numbers of Whites and nonwhites may now be part of a propaganda war use to excite one side while trying to demoralize the other. And as is often said the truth is the first casualty of war and that is especially true of the Race War.
  20. space hillbilly

    space hillbilly Mentor

    Jan 27, 2009
    In the woods at my still.
    Right! And that is the very definition of successful propaganda. If you can have a population holding two opposing viewpoints simotaniousy, you have won their minds.
    I am sure nothing brings a smile to the face's of the anti-white PTB than convincing a European that its too late, game over! I remember howbig a deal the media made of a stupid article in around 1990 proclaiming that blondebabies would be extinctin just fifty years, now here we are twenty years later and theres still millions of blonde babies coming into the world.
  21. Deadlift

    Deadlift Hall of Famer

    Aug 2, 2007
    North Carolina
    That sounds like some hyperbole? Aren't Mormons and the Amish only a small percentage of the United States Whites?

    I'm aware that there is a viewpoint on this site that is akin to promoting a "Mormon Superhumanism." On the other hand, there is an antagonism towards White Catholics and Baptists, and the suggestion that "they're all selling-out to the latinos, Africans, etc." Two can certainly battle in this arena.

    1 -- First, I don't claim that any denomination is safe from cultural Marxist infiltration and pollution. Onto the next point..

    2 -- What about all the Polys in Utah and Mesa (AZ)? What about all of the Poly footballers' that "feel at home" in Idaho, where there is quite a few White LDS?

    3 -- If a White Mormon is tall and athletic, there is an instant suggestion of Mormon Supremacy. If a White Catholic is tall and athletic, there is ZERO praise for Catholicism.. never mind that some Catholic American athletes are also from "bigger families" and have siblings in athletics. Same with Baptist athletes.

    It's a bizarre mindset, and it's full of ignorance and perhaps even superstition..
  22. Colonel_Reb

    Colonel_Reb Hall of Famer

    Jan 9, 2005
    The Deep South
    Deadlift, I could be wrong, but I don't think Highlander meant all that, but I do agree with you that Mormons and Amish are a small (but growing) segment of the US White population. I also agree with you that the Mormons have been influenced by cultural Marxism just as nearly every other religious group has. Also, there are still big White Catholic families. Being a fundamentalist Baptist myself,I know of a lot of large White Baptist families. Yes, there are tons of polys living in Utah and the American Southwest. There are also a disproportionate number of polys playing sports in Idaho. As for any viewpoint of "mormon superhumanism" on CF, I haven't noticed it. I certainly don't share that view, and I lived in the heart of Mormonism for several years.

    Edited by: Colonel_Reb
  23. Highlander

    Highlander Mentor

    Nov 28, 2009
    You're right Deadlift, I was probably being a bit hyperbolic, just to emphasize the point that we are declining overall in numbers. Plus, I was on my lunch break, so I had to make it fast [​IMG].

    However, I've never disparaged Catholics on this site and haven't seen much if any of it myself here. On the contrary, I've mentioned they've been essential, at least in the
    past, to the cohesiveness, culture, and strength of many Western nations. However, the Catholic Church does have a ton of pull and they have been one of the groups responsible for bringing in many immigrants to various "White" countries to help fill the pews due to the current dearth of Whites parishioners. I understand that Mormons are doing the same thing, but that affects mostly the United States and not other countries.

    A couple of my favorite college football teams are BC and ND. Catholics, along with fundamental Baptists, like Colonel_Reb mentioned, and, perhaps, Mennonites, and the White "Pregnant at 16" girls on MTV [​IMG], along with the Mormons and Amish are the only ones helping to keep us from having a nil birthrate. I'm mostly a realist, like Riddlewire, but have some idealism in me too. More and more Whites are waking up, so maybe these trends can be somewhat reversed, although Thrashen's list was pretty sobering.

    Edited by: Highlander
  24. Deadlift

    Deadlift Hall of Famer

    Aug 2, 2007
    North Carolina

    I sincerely apologize if I came off as combative. Most of my questions were meant to be in an "open forum" context, rather than towards you.

    But, since I quoted your post, it could have been seen as something different. I'm glad that the peace has remained on CF. And, go Boston College! [​IMG]
  25. Colonel_Reb

    Colonel_Reb Hall of Famer

    Jan 9, 2005
    The Deep South
    It should be no surprise to anyone here that Whites now makeup less than half of all US births. Still, this is very upsetting news.
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