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  1. wokewhite232

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  2. Don Wassall

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    I didn't realize Carl Nassib was signed for as much as he was -- 3 yrs. $25 million with $17 million guaranteed. That's the kind of contract that indicates the Raiders want to give him ample playing time. Would be cool to see Maxx Crosby and Nassib both racking up lots of sacks this season. One obstacle that may limit Nassib's playing time is Clelin Ferrell, who was a surprise pick last year as the fourth overall player taken, but who wasn't nearly as effective as Crosby, who was taken in the fourth round.

    Nassib, Ferrell and Crosby may rotate at end so that all three get close to starter's snaps. Then there's the addition of Nick Kwiatkoski, who will be a three down linebacker, and Jeff Heath, who has a good shot at starting. So the Raiders could have four really good White starters on defense, along with David Carr, Hunter Renfro, and Jason Witten (who may or may not get many snaps this season), along with Kolton Miller and Richie Incognito on the o-line. Potentially as many as nine overachievers starting on the Raiders, who had as few as six Whites total on their roster under the Black Jack Del Rio regime, and that includes the kicker and long snapper.

    And the one-time Ghana Giants currently have three White starters projected on defense (LBs Blake Martinez, Ryan Connelly, Kyler Fackrell, with David Mayo listed as a backup), and potentially five or six White starters on offense counting George Aston, who is the only fullback on the roster (and who could be an effective power runner but that'll never happen).

    Teams maneuver within the narrowly prescribed demographic boundaries of the Caste System's unofficial rules, and the Giants and Raiders will be cancelled out and more by teams moving the other direction along with the upcoming Whites Need Not Apply draft, but it's still nice to see two long-time ultra-Caste organizations move in the direction they have. The Raiders in particular had so many great White players during their glory years before Al Davis went senile. And the Giants were semi-daring for a while in the '90s, drafting WR Joe Jurevicious in the second round, RB Sean Bennett in the fourth round and CB Jason Sehorn in the second round.
     
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  3. Bucky

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    Excellent write up. Very much looking forward to both the teams mentioned and I can confidently say I've never felt that way before about them. Some real interesting players they've added. Both should be more competitive as a result.

    Apparently Gruden and Mayock love Kwiatkowski and sold him on being a 3down LB. Nassib has floated under the radar after being on some crappy teams, but he has versatility and production as a DE/OLB and also signed for starters $! Here's to hoping Heath finds the field as well!
     
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    Falcons coach Dan Quinn said DE John Cominsky will have an "increased role" this upcoming season.
    The organization traded up to nab Cominsky (6'5/286) with the No. 135 overall pick in last year's draft, failing to find a consistent role for the rookie on 100 empty defensive snaps behind Vic Beasley, Adrian Clayborn, and a handful of other rotational pass rushers. With those two names in particular out the door in free agency, the former Charleston product will undoubtedly have to take on a much larger role across from splash signing Dante Fowler. 2018 sixth-rounder Foye Oluokun is also expected to enter Atlanta's lineup as a first-year starter this upcoming season.
     
  5. Johnny Tightlips

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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2885538-has-tyrods-time-finally-come
    He states—as fact—that he can do precisely what Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson and Kyler Murray
    If any DWFs in your life are skeptical of the fact that there is an agenda to artificially inflate black, or blackish(i.e Mahommes, Murray, and Tua), Quarterbacks...show them articles like this! Tyrod Taylor is a fringe back up quarterback who can make a spot start here and there at best. How the hell do you have articles saying this 31 year old back up is ready to take the reigns of a franchise, who have become worse each year under Anthony Lynn, and say that he, unlike the Hall of Famer Philip Rivers, can take this team over the hump? This agenda is so naked and disingenuous that you would think it would be blatantly obvious to most thinking people. However, this narrative has inertia, especially after the results of last season that I think this going to be the narrative for the next few years.
     
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    I read a good portion of the article before I finally gave up. The author, Tyler Dunne, is a pathetic, black worshiping DWF. How can people like that stand themselves?
     
  7. Shadowlight

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    Media hero WR Brandin Cooks was traded yet again. This time from the Rams to the Texans for a second round pick. Nice move by the Rams. Only 27, the Texans will be the fourth team he will be on in a career that features four 1,000 yard seasons beginning with the Saints in 2014.

    People might consider me a hypocrite because if a white player had Cooks like stats I would be shouting from the highest rooftop. But it is important to point out although not an abject failure like other first round speedsters like John Ross and Tavon Austin, just to name two, Cooks has been overrated. Has he had a better than average career? Sure but big things have always been predicted for Cooks. If he was so great why do teams keep getting rid of him? Everyone knows the past two seasons ( including his season cut short with an ACL tear) Cooper Kupp has been the superior teammate.

    Cooks has the kind of work out numbers that the media laps up like rabid animals. A black receiver with great speed and agility? A dream come true for them. At the combine he ran a 4.33 40 and had a 3.81 20 yard shuttle with a 36 inch vertical. Another "superman." He exploded for two 1,000 yard seasons for the Saints before landing in New England. Thought of as their savior he had another 1,000 yard season with them which included a poor Super Bowl performance against the Eagles in which he had to leave the game. After the season Tom Brady wanted him gone. He couldn't follow simple directions. Notably the Patriots won two Super Bowls sandwiched around Cooks.

    Cooks had a big 2018 for the Rams but last year faltered horribly. He suffered yet another concussion and ended up with a 42-583-2 stat line compared to Kupp who had an over 70% catch ratio to go along with a 77-1110-10 stat line.

    Is there a white player I could compare to Cooks who is 5'10" 180 pounds? Probably burner Kevin Curtis but Curtis only had one 1,000 yard season, his first season with the Eagles where he was finally given a starting spot. He had enough talent to gain 1,000 yards a couple of times with the Rams if he was allowed more playing time. I liked Curtis a lot and he was underused but the media never considered him a star. He was an afterthought. Rarely thought of as a top tier receiver especially when playing back up most of the time with the Rams. The old song. Curtis was continually underrated as Cooks is consistently overrated.

    But Cooks is thought of as a premier deep threat. He has had his moments of course but we have come to find out his pattern running is erratic and he has been unable to catch anything remotely challenged. He has no strength. In other words where there is traffic he will not come up with the ball. He needs to be wide open and because he has played on teams with multiple top receivers it has given him room to operate.

    Danny Amendola has never had a 1,000 yard season but to me he is a bit better and a hell of a lot more reliable than Cooks. His catch percentage is superior to Cooks.

    Cooks could be a concussion away from his career ending since they are starting to accumulate. The Rams have Kupp and Robert Woods and clearly don't need Cooks. They need a new running back and other things.

    Cooks isn't a bad player of course but the point I am making is despite his big stats this gypsy proves that stats don't always represent the bottom line. See Amari Cooper as another reference point.
     
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    I'm not a fan of the pompous nerd Turico, so his replacing Uncle Al is basically a wash. But if Aunt Crissy is retiring rather than changing networks? His last broadcast should be designated Caste Football's first national holiday!
     
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    I can tolerate Al Michaels somewhat. I would have liked to have seen how he and Brees worked out. You do wonder what is in store for both Al and Crissy.
     
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    Al Michaels will be 77 in two years and though he's still quite capable, he'll likely retire. Collinsworth will only be 63, so I'm hoping he also retires from broadcasting and concentrates on his anti-White enterprise, Pro Football Focus.
     
  12. Shadowlight

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    That is a quite a commitment NBC are making with Brees who at this point is a blank canvas. While Tony Romo became a hit there is no way of knowing if Brees will be any good. Will he be polished enough? And where he will land on the caste meter?

    Not until we here from him will we be able to arrive at a firm opinion on him as a color analyst. We all like Jason Witten as a player but he lacked polish when he was thrust into the MNF booth last season.

    That said I always wanted Peyton Manning to become a key color man but he keeps turning offers down. I find his ads with Brad Paisley amusing as he plays the role of a pompous ass perfectly.
     
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    I don't think it's really fair to lump Tua in with those other turds. If anything, the media narrative around him is that he's too fragile for teams to take a chance on in the draft. If he were black, the narrative would be far different. It would be somewhere along the lines of "He has too much upside for teams not to take a chance on despite the injury history" I keep telling people, Jordan Love is this years media darling, not Tua. When Love gets drafted, expect to hear DWF comments like "He's got the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft. The ________ have hit a home run with this pick. The sky is the limit for him" or such other BS.
     
  14. Leonardfan

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    Not celebrating the death of Tavaris Jackson in any way. Just wanted to post this as it is more "fake news" from weenieworld. Jackson was drafted in the 2nd round - he was selected by dolt head coach Brad Childress to be the Vikings version of Donovan McNabb who Childress coached in Philadelphia. Jackson's record and overall stats would indicate he was a bad draft pick bordering on a bust. I put the outright lies in bold - Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick, David Garrard, Aaron Brooks, Jason Campbell, Vince Young were all playing at the time and all were viewed as "dual threat QBs". Jackson was actually not a dual threat QB when looking at his numbers and also from what I recall when I saw him play. Weenieworld just lazily labeling Jackson as a dual threat because he was a black QB.

    NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports ex-Seahawks QB Tarvaris Jackson died in a car accident Sunday night at the age of 36.

    Jackson was working as the QB coach for Tennessee State. He played nine years in the NFL from 2006-2015, most notable starting 20 games for the Vikings and 14 for the Seahawks. Jackson offered dual-threat ability that was uncommon during his time, ultimately finishing his career with a plenty-respectable 17-17 record.
     
  15. white is right

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    Jackson also filed for bankruptcy after being a caddy(back up) for years and grossing decent money for his career. It's not shocking to me to see that he died in car crash and I wouldn't be shocked to see alcohol or drugs were mitigating factors in his death.

    While not blaming him for hanging around in the league, but he benefited from a decent cadre of Black starting quarterbacks as he probably would have washed out of the league much earlier if Plantation Pete didn't view him as poor man's clone of Wilson.


    Bob Griffin is another beneficiary of this in Baltimore.


    OMG, Jackson while also being broke threatened to kill his ex wife so maybe we can blame his death on being punchy with CTE and the Wuhan virus.....https://www.seattletimes.com/sports...utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=RSS_seahawks
     
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    I'm sure that they will shortly update the cause of death as being CoVID-19.
     
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    Strange isn't it? The internet lit up like a Christmas tree a few hours ago speculating on Carolina trading CM to Washington and then boom this new contract.

    Typically giving long term big deals to running backs has some risks given their relative short career spans but this is without question the right move by Carolina. As the article above mentions CM offers a unique set of versatile high end skills and has proven to be durable too. Big contract runs through 2024.

    He deserves everything coming his way. Good for him. Lets see who they draft and put around him? With Luke Kuechly gone this is CM's team now.
     
  19. Leonardfan

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    He'll get lots of passes with dink and dunk melonhead and fewer running lanes since defenses will not respect Bridgewater's ability to stretch the field vertically.
     
  20. Bucky

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    Agreed at least he'll get paid and with this contract through 2024 and will likely outlast Rhule era lol.
     
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    Tagiolova has been a media darling for a few years now to be honest. He just is not receiving the pre-draft hype bump that Love is getting. If I had to choose between the two of them I would take Tagiolova every time - Love's inconsistencies and the huge regression from 2018 to 2019 is being excused by just about every "expert" - blame the change in offensive system, blame the lack of a supporting cast etc. The injury history is something that is being brought up but even with that talk the lowest I see him projected going is 6th to the Chargers.

    It's better to compare Love and Hebert. Every draft cuck is doing their best to build up Love coming off of a mediocre season while at the same time they are trying to criticize Herbert for having his best season. Herbert's main offensive weapon was Breeland who was lost midway through the season. The PSU transfer WR did step up at the end of the season but other than that Herbert was not playing with much and he was still able to lead the Ducks to a Pac 12 championship and Rose Bowl win.
     
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    this is a question that myself and my daughters bf argue over. If NFL defenses were made up intelligent hard hitting white players would CM be doing as well as he is against the weak black defenses in todays NFL? Thoughts?
     
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    I will answer this question on a few levels. CM is the epitome of the modern day back. The modern day defenses that are very black heavy are not as good as the white heavy defenses from the past but you have to keep a few things in mind. Think of it as a pyramid. The worst modern day defensive players now are the black heavy defensive backfields. Next worst are the linebackers. Defensive lines are by default the best of the lot left.

    Defensive backs don't figure prominently into CM's production values and the modern day "black" linebackers are typically undersized and bulked up safeties who are seen as having the speed to cover a back like CM coming out of the backfield.

    The point being CM's talent goes up against what these black linebackers are supposed to do best like chase and run yet CM eats them up for lunch anyway beating the linebackers in the one thing that these linebackers are known for by catching passes against them.

    So CMs versatility and talent overrides the one thing many black linebackers are brought in for which is speed and range.

    So unlike some wide receivers who are feasting on terrible DB play these days I don't think CM is a great player because of defensive deficits. He is just a great modern day player who is generally considered at this stage of the game as being the best running back in the NFL. And he was just paid accordingly. I think he is the best RB in the game today and I will go back to his draft when he was moving up the draft boards at a time when many questioned his ability to even play in the NFL and I remember saying he just might end up being the number one pick. As it turns out he should have been just like his former teammate LB Luke Kuechly also should have been the number one pick in his draft.
     
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    runningback is not a cerebral position, either the holes are there or they aren't. It doesn't take a genius to figure out CMAC is getting the ball almost every single play. There are defenders that do everything right for a play and he still makes them look stupid with pure athleticism. In a fair world, yes there would be better defenders, but also better linemen blocking (no sumos) and better wideouts to worry about (ones that actually run block too)
     
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    This is the best off season move so far. Yes the Brady move is grabbing the headlines and as great as Tom still is he is past his prime. CM is still rising. He will only be 29 at the end of his contract in 2024. He is the best pass catching running back in the history of the NFL if you ask me.

    Typically these days teams are reluctant to hand out longish big contracts to running backs because their shelf lives are generally shorter than other positions. But the history of CM is very instructive. He keeps himself in tip top shape and understands what is going on around him.

    Think back to CM's draft day. His dad played a huge role where his son landed. CM was dead set on playing for a team that played on a nice natural surface and Carolina has a nice fluffy grass field. He was not going to sign with a team that played on artificial junk. Even at that early stage CM envisioned a long and successful NFL career.

    He passed on Stanford's bowl game which was played on what of those junk fields. And guess what? His QB suffered a torn ACL in that game on that field. CM is no dummy.

    He is still fresh and just entering his prime. He gets a lot of touches but is not "overused." I recall many here ( not all and not me) vigorously complaining CM hadn't been used enough especially early in his career but I think things on that score have worked out just fine as it looks like CM is on his way to a long career especially for a running back.

    Giving CM this big contract was exactly the right thing to do by Carolina. Those flash trade rumors that popped up yesterday were weird considering he signed the contract a few hours later. Generally the media agrees it was a great move given the player and the circumstances.

    The next big question is how will Carolina draft? With lynchpin Luke Kuechly gone they have a ton of work to do on rebuilding their defense.
     

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