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  1. Shadowlight

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    If cornered I would put Jacksonville as a team I can't stand on a yearly basis. They have been caste for so long it isn't worth discussing. With caste GM Coughlin ( lucky bastard beating the Pats twice) gone they have a new one in Dave Caldwell. His track record can't be deciphered so we will find out about this guy come draft time.

    In the meantime they are thinking of bring HC Doug Marrone back. Another caste hound they went from a playoff team in 2017, his first year there and have disintegrated into the caste toilet since. And I think we all can recall the daily howling from the media that the only thing holding back those wonderful black Jags athletes was QB Blake Bortles who was held up as a perpetual whipping boy. They got their wish. Bortles is long gone and they are worse off than ever.

    In most cases year after year of caste sniffing ways will destroy an organization. The fact that they want to keep Marrone is a sign they are clueless.

    I'll give this GM one draft class to see if he is yet another caste sniffing loser.

    Why don't they just move to London and get done with it? The Jags aren't especially popular in Jacksonville.

    By the way( and I warned about this) apparently the Raiders fans overwhelmed the 12 or 14 Charger fans at their so called home make shift high school football field today. If the Chargers continue to lose why would anyone think their "new home" in LA will solve their problems. Not even sure anyone will support them if they win. Hell LA has enough trouble supporting their main team the Rams. In their "home" game today QB Rivers had to resort to a silent count because the Raider fans were making too much noise. Holy cow. See article below.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/22/raider-nation-swarms-road-game-vs-chargers-in-los-angeles/

    Many people in San Diego rightfully won't forgive their owner for selling them down the river. If the Jags don't end up in London then I suspect maybe the Chargers.

    It is estimated that a team in London would easily sell out games. For a long time.
     
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  2. Leonardfan

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    Caldwell has actually been the GM since 2013 - Coughlin just came in as the VP of Football Operations so we already know what Caldwell's track record is ;).

    I think the last relatively white friendly GMs were Bill Polian and Ted Thompson who are out of the league now. Maybe the Gruden and Mayock braintrust will prove me wrong but I have a feeling they will do something stupid like draft a quotaback or let Deshone Kizer become the starter.
     
  3. Shadowlight

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    I see. Well then they should clean house immediately. That does implicate Caldwell. He is knee deep in this mess. Both he and Marrone must go. I think the ownership there is bad news too.
     
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    It's interesting that Jacksonville and Tampa seem to always be among the teams with the most empty seats, some bought some not, yet stick to the same tried and true failed Caste formula year after year.

    Tom Coughlin had a strong, relatively White friendly team right out of the gate as an expansion team in Jax but he moved away from it and became a strong Caste clown after that in spite of his fake news reputation as a stern taskmaster. Tampa had Alstott and Lynch when they were good, but were never a "White friendly" team overall.

    A few "outliers" at the coal black positions might do wonders as far as fan interest. Tampa has a couple talented White receivers but I'll be surprised if either of them ever become major contributors; they seem destined to be backups who shine now and again when given a chance but that's as far up the ladder as they'll be permitted to go. Just look at Bruce Arians and his track record, including hiring only black coordinators at Tampa and at least one female assistant coach.
     
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    Good news for Laird, but he'll be up against a tough run defense. If he can average at least 3.0 yards a carry with the o-line Miami has that'll be impressive.

    Coach Brian Flores said RB Myles Gaskin (ankle) "probably won't" be ready for the team's Week 17 matchup against the Patriots.
    The Laird works in mysterious ways. Gaskin suffered the injury during the Dolphins' exhilarating Week 16 win over the Bengals. Patrick Laird will probably receive something resembling a full-time role in Week 17, although the matchup against the Patriots' juggernaut defense isn't a particularly great spot for DFS-ers to target.
     
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    Interestingly, the Oakland Raiders are still in the hunt for the last playoff spot, and it's conceivable that they could make it! Here's what has to go down:

    - Texans beat the Titans. This one could go either way.
    - Ravens beat Steelers. This would be likely except that a win or a loss doesn't affect the Ravens seeding at all, so they might just be emptying their bench
    - Colts beat Jaguars. Also a toss-up, but I think that BBQ and the boys will probably win this.
    - Raiders beat the Broncos. This is the one that I think is the least likely of the four things. Drew Lock and the Broncs are looking good.

    Just some fun trivia for this Monday afternoon.
     
  8. CrazyFinn

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    Apparently “Fat” Mike McCarthy has interviewed with the Carolina Panthers for their coaching vacancy. I’ve never been a fan of his, those GB teams were always subpar when it came to the running game. Not to mention his treatment of Jordy Nelson (always criminally underused even after his racial apprenticeship) and of course never giving Jeff Janis a chance to show what he could do. The great John Kuhn was another guy who should’ve been used a lot more. So, f*** this guy.

    This would be very bad news for CMC and he should consider leaving if Fat Mike gets the job.
     
  9. Bucky

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    I disagree. McCarthy has his fair share of faults but he deserves a 2nd gig as a HC. At least GB had fan favorites like Jordy, Kuhn, Hawk, Matthews, Martinez during his tenure. No doubt Janis was screwed but realistically not many other NFL Teams would have given him a job, let alone draft a D2 White WR!

    I'd be interested to see what McCarthy could do in Carolina. His Legacy is tied to Aaron Rodgers and Ted Thompson so I'd like to see what he could do on his own. If he could cut ties with Cam and start fresh, wouldn't be the worst hire for Carolina caste wise.
     
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    Jordy also had several seasons where he was among the leaders in targets. For example he had 127 targets in 2013, 151 in 2014, and 152 in 2016 (he missed all of 2015 with a knee injury). That's a lot of targets; no one racks up four seasons with over 1,200 receiving yards without being targeted a lot.
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    Zettel signed by the 49ers in time for the playoffs.
     
  12. La France Blanche

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    I don't think McCarthy is particularly anti-white by modern NFL standards, but he's an unimaginative coach who doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. There are better choices for Carolina, especially as far as C-Mac is concerned.
     
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    A big problem with McCarthy's offense is the lack of use of tight ends and running backs in the passing game. Look at what Aaron Jones is doing in GB now that he's gone. If he goes to Carolina with that approach it will be bad for McCaffrey. McCarthy's meltdown in the 2014 NFC title game is another mark against him. I could see him being like Brian Billick, a successful coach who never got a second chance.

    It's interesting that Coughlin because such a caste clown. The players that he clashed with over disciplinary issues with the Giants and Jaguars were always black. A good example of the racial blindness that afflicts so many boomers.
     
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    It looks like the plantation has signed the uber-thug Marshawn Lynch after all the RBs went down. And to show you that Seattle DWFs are the worst and most despicable bunch in the NFL, this quote sums it all up:

    “I grouped texted some family, out-of-state, and the first thing I got back was ‘please find me a Marshawn Lynch jersey for my eldest daughter,'” said Dan Ginsburg.”

    http://komonews.com/news/local/seahawks-fans-react-to-potential-marshawn-lynch-return
     
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    Here's a guy who will never be allowed to coach another NFL team, Eric Mangini. He was on the verge of making the Jets into a real team when he was shot in the foot by the Jewish GM (signed the washed up Brett Farve) and when the team had a bad year because of it, Mangini was blamed and fired.
     
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    It was time for McCarthy to go, maybe a TE coaching gig is where I would place him. IMO he rescued Favre's career, by the time he showed up in GB Favre was trending down and every year threatening to retire. So the run first philosophy saved another aging QB's career and in the second year they went to the NFC championship game where old man Favre froze up. And even the gamesmanship GB's management played with Favre's demands to be traded to be with his man love Childress in MN worked out in Favre's favor. If Favre went when he wanted to go to MN they would have won a few more games and not have been able to draft Peterson, so in the end MN gets Peterson and Favre and he gets a dream year to really end his career on, of course an ill conceived audible ruined a SB appearance but that was Favre for you. (karma for giving gap tooth the sack record, ha, ha)
     
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    I jumped for joy when I heard they were bringing back Lynch, odds are he becomes Moss 2.0.
     
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    (((Ginsburg))) hahaha. Would that make him a Drunk fellow-White Fan?
     
  19. Shadowlight

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    Although I now have somewhat mixed feelings about McCarthy it is important to remember his early teams were among the less caste going and were routinely my favorite team during that great stretch. His white skill players were superstars like Clay Matthews, Aaron Rodgers and Jordy Nelson and those three players formed the backbone of his great teams which included his 2010 that won the Super Bowl against the Steelers and was Jordy's coming out party.

    Frustrations started to mount even though they were a top team. I was especially disturbed that they blew a huge lead to Seattle in their 2014 playoff game which included inexplicable late bad special teams play. They were considered a real Super Bowl contender that year and were better than Seattle but they let that one slip away.

    After a while McCarthy's "charm" started to wear off a bit. And as time passed he slowly but surely became more of a caste conformist although during his tenure they drafted wide receivers like Jared A. out of Wisconsin and of course Jeff Janis although we all know how that turned out. I agree with Bucky he deserves another shot especially when you consider the miserable lot of young coaches that were hired recently. Given his decline if you will at Green Bay I just don't know if he will work out though. Carolina is a team that needs a big rebuild at this point despite established stars like CM and Luke Kuechly. Whether McCarthy would be up to that is a tough call.

    Hell if I owned a team and needed a head coach I would do everything possible to get the Ohio State head coach Ryan Day.
     
  20. Leonardfan

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    Ted Thompson was the GM who led a relatively white friendly era for the Packers. There are not many head coaches who have full say when it comes to personnel decisions so I think we need to make that distinction.

    Shadowlight - not a personal attack or anything but I am just curious as to why you are so high on Ryan Day? He is an Urban Meyer disciple - brought in a black transfer QB. His first recruiting class has no white players outside of the typical caste positions. He did recruit a 4 star white QB only to also recruit a 4 star black QB.
     
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    Sadly most head coaches these days lean on the caste side and Day is no exception. I don't think Day is as diehard caste as say Franklin from Penn State and he has recruited some top tier white defenders for 2021. And they have some excellent four and five star white underclassmen defenders on their roster who I hope emerge in a year or two. He currently starts two white NFL type linebackers.

    But putting that matter aside for the moment I just think he has a brilliant football mind and I suspect he will become a great NFL coach sooner rather than later. He also has a relatable low key personality like Nebraska great Tom Osborne.
     
  22. Truthteller

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    Shadowlight, Caldwell has been the Jags GM for a while now. Tom C. was the team's executive vice president. Here's a link that explains it all. Caldwell was hired, after they ditched the Goy that signed Toby Gerhart for starters money back in 2014. I'd bet signing Toby did not help the ex-GM's cause....Recently, I'm not sure who wielded most power, but the Jags are clearly not as Caste with Marrone as they were before he arrived. Marrone is not terrible. Remember in Buffalo, he wanted no part of E.J. Emmanuel, but he was forced upon him by the former black GM. I'm sure the same deal applies in Jax. We'll see, with Tom C. gone, perhaps the Jags and Marrone have a better shot going forward?

    Word is, the NFL no longer wants a team based in London. And the Jaguars owner thinks there isn't enough demand in London for an entrenched team. I believe him. Keep a couple things in mind. There are some huge obstacles to moving that the "drive-by sports media" never details. Below I'll post just a couple. I could put forth other reasons, but my fingers will get tired (typing).

    1) Drafts for employment purposes are strictly outlawed on Cuck Island. In English sports, everyone is a free agent from the time they are kids up until they retire! That's why there is absolutely no parity in their sports leagues. It's a couple teams dominating every year (Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, ect), as they scoop up all the best prospects at a young age. Kind of like the Yankees from the Ruth/Gehrig era until the draft was implemented in the 1960's. So, how does the NFL get around that? They would need to seek some sort of Government exemption? What politicians will do that, considering their loyalties to all the local EPL teams?

    2) Outside of the rare, educated Andrew Luck types, who grew up in Europe, which American's want to play there? I won't even get into the tax issues, but just focusing on lifestyle and travel is enough. Vast majority of NFL players b!tch and moan about making a trip to London once every 4 or 5 years due to the travel -- then get a "bye week" to recover. What if they were forced to travel between the U.S. and U.K. several times a year? The black players, in particular, are militantly opposed to playing in Europe due to travel logistics. Once word spreads in England the black draftees and black free agents (in particular) refuse to sign, fans will feel disrespected and abandon the team.

    3) An NFL team faces the same problems the Quebec Nordiques and a proposed Hamilton or second Toronto team faces in the NHL. While the Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Leafs publicly support a regional rival, behind the scenes they will do everything they can to stop it.....Same will happen in London. Every big-time EPL club is probably lobbying behind closed doors to stop the Jaguars from moving, fearing any more competition. Even if it's modest competition. Heck, for years the Mets and Yankees even refused to allow minor league teams in N.Y.C. and near by regions. Only relented when they were allowed to own and operate (short season) single A Brooklyn and Staten Island.

    4) Let's not wax poetic about London. It's not the same London that existed during the Beatles heyday. It's not the same London that existed during the Tony Blair era through the 1990's and into the 2000's. Blair, a subversive Shabbos Goy, began running London into the ground due to opening the borders. This was no doubt at the behest of the Globalist Jewish banking families that completely control the Island and are trying to turn it into a third world cesspool....What would the NFL gain by having a team in Londanistan, where Sharia Law is openly practiced?...Plus it's not like the U.K. has a monster population like China or India. Roger Cuckdell needs to do away with his "London fetish" and focus on keeping teams in places like Oakland and San Diego....I don't think I can ever get used to the Las Vegas Raiders. Ever!
     
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    Merry Christmas Gentlemen...
     
  24. Shadowlight

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    I would much prefer a team in London and I will get to that in a moment. Perhaps the Coughlin factor tainted everything the past three years but I am still concerned over their GM Caldwell who has been around for too many caste drafts, albeit they drafted a white DT Taven Bryan in the first round in 2018. I am willing to go along with the ride if you think HC Marrone will lean less caste now that Coughlin is gone. This next draft will be a test and hopefully he passes it. One albeit small but glimmer of hope note is UDFA return man Michael Walker ( out of BC) at least for the time being ( who knows how long his gig will last) is their main kick returner and he has been solid so far.

    The racial breakdown in England has a much higher level of whites than the USA. Even if you isolate England from the UK where the white percentage is close to 90% in England it is around the mid 80% mark. And a black population at 3%. In the USA the dwindling white population is nearing 70% with a black population near 13%.

    California the non Hispanic white population sits at 36% while the Hispanic population is a whopping 40%. Their Asian number is high too at 15%. Blacks are relatively low at 6%.

    Granted London like most metropolitan cities is racially diverse but still in a racial match game the UK has a much higher % of white people than does the USA. The Premier league and it's heavily non white team make ups could give one the wrong impression. But absolutely you are spot on this isn't the London of the 1960's. The UK is like most European countires where non white including white and or black Muslim immigrant numbers have increased and in some cases like France dramatically. Look at Sweden of all places?

    My gut feeling is that Brits loves American football. Now we know the NBA is sniffing around foreign countries too but I suspect the UK prefers football whereas countries like Russia, China and France would prefer basketball. Japan is all set with their baseball and golf. Ha.

    The London NFL games have been met with great enthusiasm. Watching Carolina play I was struck by their enthusiasm for CM, a lot of it probably having too do with his Irish name and the way the crowd would chant out the name "Luke" for Luke Kuechly.

    My guess and I agree with you is white players would adjust to the "culture" in the UK better than the African American players. I think whites in general have an affinity for the glorious history of England whereas blacks could give a rat's ass.

    There are going to be complications with foreign soil you are correct and by pointing out Canada it drives the point home. But in this much smaller world we live in those problems I think are easier to overcome now than in the past. And I am just guessing here but if a team was to land in London I think it would be less caste than the average NFL team. But that is merely a hunch.

    But at the end of the day I would prefer to have a team in a high majority white country that is enthusiastic rather than yet another California team or a dead zone like Jacksonville where fans aren't as jacked. I still don't see how that Chargers in LA thing will turn out OK although I believe the Rams owner is flipping most of the bill with the new stadium. Still something there I suspect is going to give down the line. LA is a baseball and basketball town first and foremost. Hell they had trouble with just one football team and now there are two?
     
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    I've been arguing with some of the DWF's on Finheaven as the Jordan Love hype train is going on full throttle over there. Never in my decades of watching football have I seen a QB suck so bad, yet get the amount of hype this guy gets on these forums. It's like this guy can do no wrong. He sucks sh*t against BYU and LSU and the excuses made for him by these people (he lost his supporting cast, he had an off day, he was high on marijuana [someone actually said this]) are unbelievable. He finally has a decent game (against Kent freaking State) and these same people come from out of the woodwork to pump his tires. The reality is, this guy is simply not that good, yet these imbeciles don't want to see what's clearly in front of their faces. That's the frustrating thing with DWF's and liberals in general.
     
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