Japanese Sprinters

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  1. jacknyc

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    The track season has begun in Japan, and their sprinters have already turned in some very good times:

    Hiroshima
    Men's 100m Final 1.3m/s
    1) Naoki Tsukahara 10.17
    2) Shinji Takahira 10.20
    3) Shintaro Kimura 10.33

    Women's 100m Final 2.2m/s
    1) Chisato Fukushima 11.23
    2) Momoko Takahashi 11.24
    3) Mayumi Watanabe 11.34

    Fukuroi
    Men's 200m Final0.2m/s
    1) Shinji Takahira 20.46
    2) Mitsuhiro Abiko 20.54
    3) Naoki Tsukahara 20.61

    Men's 400m
    1) Yuzo Kanemaru45.27

    Women's 200m Final 1.5m/s
    1) Chisato Fukushima 23.14national record
    2) Momoko Takahashi 23.15
    3) Mayumi Watanabe 23.66

    I hope are guys can get off to an equally good start this season.
     
  2. StarWars

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    WOW pretty good. I have a feeling they have a stupid race strategy and will not peak at the end of the season with Europe and the rest of the West, though; just like Australia. Japenese sprinters seem like the only Asians on par with whites, but they are a nationalistic government like Greece or Jamaica, so I don't think it's as much talent as support behind them. I like Asians but they have an inferiority complex that makes them want to impress the West. To be honest I doubt these times will improve that much more but still good luck to them.
     
  3. jacknyc

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    It seems that Japanese and Chinese (with the exception of Liu Xiang) run their best at home, not internationally.
    I don't think they are concerned with international competition. They try to peak for their national championships and don't really seem to care much for any competitions beyond that.
     
  4. white lightning

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    Jacknyc beat me to it. I like to follow them as well but they never run these type of times in Europe. There tracks are said to be the fastest in the world. Even Patrick Johnson had his only sub 10 down there(9.93)!

    They need to prove they can do it outside of Japan. The only one to really have success was Shingo. He won a bronze medal in the 200 at the World Champs several years back. That was the only sprint medal ever won by a Japanees Sprinter. Quite a accomplishment! Asahara was good but never medaled. Maybe a couple of these guys will break through.

    Just like the white sprinters, Jap. Sprinters have been close to sub 10, but never done it.

    Whites have won hundreds of medals however in World Champs and Olympic Games. We also have 3 guys to go sub 20 in the 200 meters. They are not on our level as of yet. Good luck to them all the same. Anyone that helps to prove that black sprinters are human and can be beat. Take away the steroids and you will see a more level playing field.
     
  5. white is right

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    I know in the past China has had some crazy unverified times in the short sprints. Supposedly when they had the bamboo curtain under Mao they had a sprinter run a hand timed 10 flat(back when that time was a world record). Also recently they had a female runner run a 10.8X. Yet she did nothing at international meets.
     
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    There is a big meet in Osaka this wkend. Wariner is running and so are all these Japanese sprinters. It will be interesting to see how they all do. I am hoping for very fast time from everyone.
     
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    Asian sprinters are easily ridiculed by the caste-lovers, just like white sprinters are ridiculed. I hope Asian sprinters too can break new ground, just like whites will eventually.

    The time will come when both whites and Asians will prove that blacks are not invincible in sprinting, nor are they the best. Take the steroids out, and see that we are all correct.

    Best of luck to Wariner, and to these Japanese sprinters!
     
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    The one japenese 400m runner that has a chance is 21 year old Yuzo Kanemaru, who has run 45.27 already this season. Wroe is at 45.07 and Wariner at 45.06. I hope all three break 45, and Wariner breaks 44. With Osaka's fast track I see Jeremy running in the low 44s to high 43s this Saturday.
     
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    Osaka yesterday:
    Naoki Tsuakahara, who had fantastic start in the men's 100m, completely dominated the race and won it with the personal best of 10.13.
     
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    Tsuakahara not only ran a great time, but destroyed the rest of the field. 2nd place was 10.29.
    In the 200m Shinji Takahira ran 20.31.
    In the 400m Wariner won the race in 44.69.
    Yuzo Kanemaru was 2nd in 45.16, and Sean Wroe 3rd in 45.32.
    Also Tristan Thomas of Australia got 2nd in the 400m Hurdles in 48.68, with Kenji Narisako 3rd in 48.77.
    All in all, some very good times.Edited by: jacknyc
     
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    Thanks!
    If you click the little photo below Wariner on the link, it will enlarge to show Tsuakahara winning the 100m.
     
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    I am still brainwashed. When I clicked on that photo, before my eyes was the powerfully-built Tsuakahara, and I thought to myself, "I wonder if he could play American football." My instinctual reaction was "no, he is Asian and would not be fast enough once he gets the pads on..." Here he just ran 100m about a second faster than a typical Division I halfback, and that is still the first thing that came into my head. Amazing and sad. The brainwashing runs deep.
     
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    There have been many talented Japanese sprinters in recent years. I remember when Koji Ito ran a 10 flat in the 100 meters. The Japanese have a goal to get someone under the 10 second barrier.

    But, more importantly for them, is how they run relays. We all saw how their incessant preparation and teamwork helped them to a bronze medal in the 4x100 relay in Beijing.

    Jeremy Wariner's time was not all that great in Osaka this go round, but let's hope he's able to peak at the right time this season and crush the competition.
     
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    Wow. What a day for Japan. I must admit that I was very impressed with alot of the performances. I have seen similar things in years past but this year could be different. Athletics is really growing in popularity over there. That is a great thing. If only that would happen in the USA.

    Naoki Tsuakahara was very impressive. What a powerfully built sprinter. He actually ran faster p.b. than Pickering. That is great for the young lad. I want to see alot of sprinters push the envelope. I hope some of these Japaneese Sprinters can run well outside of Japan. It makes it interesting.

    Wariner looked good but he still lacks the normal finishing kick he had a couple of years ago. No big deal as he will be fine come August. I was close in my prediction.

    I'm happy McClellan won despite the time being slow.

    I can't wait to start the season! [​IMG]
     
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    10.28 today by Chinese sprinter Bingtian Su with negative wind.
    When are our European sprinters going to hit the track?
     
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    The month of June for everyone of them. From England to Ireland to Germany, the strategy is different this year to avoid burnout. Most of these guys had long indoor seasons while guys like Powell, Gay and Bolt skip the indoors. Hopefully this will be the right strategy.

    Pickering opens up tommorow though over 150 meters at the Loughborough Invitaitonal.
     
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    More fast times from Japan:

    Naoki Tsukahara 10.09 in heats
    Masashi Eriguchi 10.14 in heats
    Shinji Takahira 20.22
    Hitoshi Saito 20.42
    all times were wind legal....
     
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    I saw the race on youtube, Tsukahara was taking it easy

    final is tonight will be interesting to see the times, i reckon tsukahara could break 10 seconds within the next year!
     
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    Looks like somebody ran a 10.07 in the semis, and then the winning time in the final was 10.14.
    I think it was somebody other than Tsukahara that ran the 10.07. And it looks like Tsukahara didn't run the final. Not sure if he false started or scratched. But the website is in Japanese and the only things I can read for sure are the times.
     
  22. white lightning

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    Again the times are incredible but they will have to run similar times in Europe to have me convinced. The Japanese Sprinters always run exceptional times in Japan. Then on the European Circuit and at the big meets/championships, they just seem to disapear. Not that white sprinters have done that much better.

    These times are exciting however and I will be rooting for them this year. Like others have said, anything that helps to prove that whites & asians can sprint. I'm so tired of decade after decade of hearing that only blacks can run fast. I have never belived that and I never will.
     
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    OK - confirmed that Masashi Eriguchi ran 10.07 wind legal in the semis, and won the final in 10.14.
    Tsukahara won his semi in 10.09 but the wind was over the limit (his 10.09 in the heats was wind legal).
    For whatever reason still unknown, he did not run in the final.
    So Japan has 2 sprinters this season under 10.10 - that's amazing!
    Good Luck to them! It might help give white sprinters hope that they can do better - especially if the Japanese can perform at that level in some meets in Europe. However, it seems the Japanese never compete outside of Asia, except at the Olympics.Edited by: jacknyc
     
  24. jacknyc

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    Here is Japan's all time 100 meter list, as best I can determine:
    10.00 Koji Ito
    10.03 Shingo Suetsugu
    10.07 Masashi Eriguchi
    10.08 Nobuharu Asahara
    10.09 Naoki Tsukahara
    That's 5 guys under 10.10!
    I'm not sure that there are even 5 white guys all-time under 10.10.
    But hey, if this little island nation can do it, we can do it too!
     
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    mongoloids and whites run about the same times in the 100 meter but for mongoloids its one of their best events in athletics and for whites not at all.
     

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