forgotten white athletes?

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  1. mastermulti

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    Australia's 33 year old javelin record holder Jarrod Bannister (89.02m or 293') died in the Netherlands last night. Cause not yet disclosed, but it is understood he was in Europe training to get a decent mark for Commonwealth Games selection. Here's an interesting story from 3 years ago - a story oft repeated, I fear, when a good athlete all of a sudden gets to world class.
    Coaches who have guided them to success for a decade get squeezed out by smooth talking, money grabbing lawyers and professional managers. Then that athlete is out of his depth
    (Wariner and Clive Hart?)

    https://www.runnerstribe.com/features/594-2/
     
  2. Avante

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    John Roderick a 9.3 sprinter/footballer from SMU

    Tom Jones who won the NCAA 200 from UCLA

    Jerry Tarr a great hurdler who ran leadoff on a WR Oregon team

    Richmond Flowers a hurdlerr.sprinter.footballer out of Tenn

    Jerry Bright a stud 20om sprinter at ASU


    Ollan Cassell a world class 400m man at Houston

    Mike Larrabee the 1960 Oly 400m champ, out of USC.

    Whatever happened to this guy?


    1 Frank Lombardi Los Angeles LA ## 09.6 100Y 1928
    2 Frank Wykoff Glendale S 100Y 1928
    3 Leslie Gray Stockton SJ 100Y 1928
    4 Ralph Gilbert Santa Barbara S 100Y 1928

    Lombardi ran a HS 9.6 in 1928 beating future great Frank Wykoff then he just vanished.
     
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  3. Don Wassall

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    Interesting isn't it how American Whites suddenly stopped running fast. Was this some kind of bizarre "extinction event" sort of like how the dinosaurs allegedly disappeared one day, or might there be other factors involved?
     
  4. Carolina Speed

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    Here's another one: Bert Coan was another in a long list of Texas HS legends. He was known for his extraordinary speed. At 6'4, 215 lbs., Coan ran the 100 yard dash in 9.4! He was embroiled in recruiting issues in college, but as usual, he didn't get much attention in the NFL, but did manage to play for 7 years where he led the league in yds./att. in 1966 at 5.4 with the KC Chiefs.
     
  5. sport historian

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    Bert Coan was known as a player who was usually hurt when you needed him. BTW, Coan played in the AFL, not the NFL.
     
  6. Avante

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    I'm a bit of a sprint nut/geek, I do keep up with it. And have been since the late 50's. While Coan was fast especially for his size and era, he wan't a 9,4 guy.

    Coan ran 9.5w and 20.5w in Pasadena, TX on 26 April 1957 - with a following wind of 15mph - about 6.7 m/s. Legally he was about a 9.7/9.8 man.

    If you can find where/when this 9.4 took place that would be great, but I doubt it exists.
     
  7. jacknyc

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    [QUOTE="
    1 Frank Lombardi Los Angeles LA ## 09.6 100Y 1928
    2 Frank Wykoff Glendale S 100Y 1928
    3 Leslie Gray Stockton SJ 100Y 1928
    4 Ralph Gilbert Santa Barbara S 100Y 1928

    Lombardi ran a HS 9.6 in 1928 beating future great Frank Wykoff then he just vanished.[/QUOTE]

    I did a little research on Lombardi, and apparently he ran that race with a 1 yard handicap.
    He had false started, so he had start from a yard back from the others. I guess that was the rule back then.
    So his 9.6 was actually run over 101 yds!
     
  8. greyghost

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    John riggins ran a 9.8 100 yards ...on ash as an 18yr old ....at 220 lbs ....mind bogglingly good.......had he not gone the nfl route riggins would have been a track star....
     
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    Still feel ...both hary and sime of the most gifted sprinters ever ....armins first 30 meters and simes “top end “ over 120 thru 150 ......all on ash ....nuts ..
     
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    Doc Blanchard was 6'0" and 210 lbs who ran a 10.0 100yd. ,also his backfield running mate Glen Davis who ran a 6.1. 60 yd. & a 9.7 100 yd. Might be the greatest backfield in college football history.
     
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    Wow ...glen davis running 6.1s ...that is serious potential ...and no doubt with that speed definitely the best backfield in college football ....how many weapons does a coach need ...
     
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    I was watching some old races and came across this one. Pickering got second to Bolt. Craig's time was 10.08 with a 2.1 wind. His PB was 10.14. I wonder what his time would have been had that wind been 2.0.

     
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    Craig certainly wasn't your high knee-lift , floating style sprinter ..... but he really muscled through when he was fit. Unfortunately he started getting injured a lot.
    (Depending on ball skills of course) I could see him making some great breaks in rugby, making gaps and setting up or scoring loads of tries.
     

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