English Premier League 2012-13

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  1. Europe

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    I agree about the faking of injuries, but Rafael did kick him. It really didn't matter if he was injured or not. This was done 2 feet in front of the official.

    I don't think it is harsh to hand out suspensions for diving using replay. I think they should do it.
     
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    It will be interesting to what happens to him. I'd rather have him than Adebayor.
     
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    Good. It seems like you have to be black to play winger for England.

    I hope McManamen, who players for Wigan and a winger, gets a chance to go to a bigger club when Wigan is relegated.

    He was the man of the match in the FA Cup and he is only 22. He's white, so he has been overlooked by the bigger clubs probably.
     
  5. Matra2

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    The British media are convinced that Rooney is leaving United. The below article mentions Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, PSG, Barcelona, and the most interesting prospect, Real Madrid:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ne-rooney-be-playing-next-season-8614235.html
     
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  8. Europe

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    I saw a rumor that Moyes wants to signFrederic38's favorite player. I hope it's not true.
     
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    I've fallen behind with my breakdowns, so here are the matches from round 36 (4-6 May), plus the midweek "catch up" matches which immediately followed (7-8 May). I'll post last weekend's breakdowns this weekend... :icon_wink:

    Matches played Saturday, May 4; Sunday, May 5; and Monday, May 6:

    Fulham 2 Reading 4

    FULHAM:


    Started: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks

    READING:


    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Turk

    Norwich City 1 Aston Villa 2

    NORWICH:

    Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks

    VILLA:


    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    Swansea City 0 Manchester City 0

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks
    Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 6 blacks

    MAN. CITY:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englshmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

    Tottenham Hotspur 1 Southampton 0

    SPURS:

    Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

    SOUTHAMPTON:


    Started: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    West Bromwich Albion 2 Wigan Athletic 3

    WEST BROM:


    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    WIGAN:


    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian
    Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo

    West Ham United 0 Newcastle United 0

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Maori

    NEWCASTLE:


    Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese

    Queens Park Rangers 0 Arsenal 1

    QPR:

    Started: 2 Whites (2 Englishmen), 7 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli
    Finished: 3 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 Israeli, 1 mestizo

    ARSENAL:


    Started: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

    Liverpool 0 Everton 0

    LIVERPOOL:


    Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo

    EVERTON:

    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Manchester United 0 Chelsea 1

    MAN. UNITED:


    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks *Mestizo Rafael sent off after 89'

    CHELSEA:


    Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Sunderland 1 Stoke City 1

    SUNDERLAND:


    Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites* (2 Englishmen*), 2 blacks* *Craig Gardner sent off after 34'

    STOKE:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    220 starters

    Whites: 138 (62.727 %) - Englishmen: 50 (22.727 %)

    Blacks: 68 (30.909 %) - "English" blacks: 23 (10.454 %)

    Other non-Whites: 14 (6.363 %)

    19 goals (Whites: 12; blacks: 6; Turks: 1)


    Matches played Tuesday, May 7 and Wednesday, May 8:

    Manchester City 1 West Bromwich Albion 0

    MAN. CITY:


    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

    WEST BROM:


    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    Wigan Athletic 2 Swansea City 3

    WIGAN:


    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo
    Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 1 black, 1 mestizo

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks, 1 Israeli
    Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 6 blacks

    Chelsea 2 Tottenham Hotspur 2

    CHELSEA:


    Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Israeli

    SPURS:


    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

    SUMMARY OF MIDWEEK MATCHES:

    66 starters

    Whites: 41 (62.121 %) - Englishmen: 12 (18.181 %)

    Blacks: 20 (30.303 %) - "English" blacks: 8 (12.121 %)

    Other non-Whites: 5 (7.575 %)

    10 goals (Whites: 5; blacks: 3; mestizos: 1; Israelis: 1)
     
  10. frederic38

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    only in france i have seen worse
    and with all that spontaneity, athlecism and diversity on the team, they are relegated and dead last :heh:

    arsenal finally made it, despite another important goal by the best player of the season, gareth bale, arsenal will play champions league next year
    the battle for champions league was very interesting between arsenal, chelsea and tottenham
    the 2 whitest teams out of the 3 will play champions league, but tottenham was a thougher rival than i thought, because of bale and a change in defense at some point this season: kaboul and the black clown gallas stopped playing and the defense became dawson-verthongen, 2 very good white defenders:

    http://ninetyminutesonline.com/2013/03/04/tottenham-must-be-glad-they-kept-hold-of-michael-dawson/

    fernando torres also allowed chelsea to qualify for champions league with a very important goal, after his goal in the europa league final
    demba ba has done less than torres for chelsea since his transfert in january

    gareth bale's goal:

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  11. Matra2

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    According to Rebajlo's breakdowns Sunderland usually had 3 or 4 Englishmen but a mostly white team. In an article in the Guardian about Sunderland's problems I came across this line:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/20/sunderland-paolo-di-canio

    No stereotyping there! Perhaps they are hinting that Di Canio needs to replace them with non-beer drinking Africans and Brazilians.
     
  12. frederic38

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    i think that it's not very plausible
    i think that rooney and van persie must stay
     
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    why not some wine-drinking frenchmen?

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    :der:
     
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    eden hazard's first season for chelsea was pretty good:

    [video=youtube_share;5g1hs-Cxjno]http://youtu.be/5g1hs-Cxjno[/video]
     
  15. amoeba man

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    When English/Scottish teams dominated European football from the mid 70's to mid 80's they featured players from England,Scotland and Ireland and they were all for the most part 'drinkers'.There were very few players from continental Europe,South America,Africa in them days yet these teams dominated.I f anything drinking improved team morale so i dont know where this frowning for any drinking culture comes from.

    The 1984 Liverpool team that won the European cup and were Europes top team for near a decade at that point.
    GK Bruce Grobbelaar [Zimbabwe]
    RB Phil Neal [England]
    LB Alan Kennedy [England]
    CB Mark Lawrenson [Ireland]
    LM Ronnie Whelen [Ireland]
    CB Alan Hansen [Scotland]
    SS Kenny Daglish [Scotland]
    RM Sammy Lee [England]
    CF Ian Rush [Wales]
    CM Craig Johnstone [England]
    CM Graem Souness [Scotland]

    All these guys were 'drinkers' yet they were excellent players who had an indomitable will to win and cared whether they won or lost.Many of the African and South Americann players dont.Its common to see Newcastles African players walk off smiling and joking with their African pals when they've just lost.
     
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    Somebody left this post at Sailer's site:

    http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/kickingandscreaming/id/467?cc=5901

    Shouldn't this say something to the EPL managers and others involved in new signings and transfers?
     
  17. Europe

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    Even with all the Africans and mulattoes from Brazil there aren't any on the list. The BPL has quite a few blacks too.
     
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    but this is pretty rare, usually they will always put 1 black player on the team even if he doesn't deserve it
    credit to the journalist who wrote that
     

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