Do you claim Genghis Khan as part White ? he was apparently red haired and green eyes

[EurasianFan]

Very little genetic difference.

Again with this same graph.

What do you mean very little genetic difference? if it's only little different why is it enough for to belong to belong to a seperate cluster? and why do they have own Caucasoid subrace phenotype?

 

[Wes Woodhead]

Is Tiger Woods "black"?

His mother was 3/4 Asian and 1/4 Dutch. His father was a mix of negro, Chinese, white & American Indian. He has more Asian ancestry than anything else (about 50%) and looks like an Indonesian to me. He has about as much white as negro in his heritage, yet I NEVER see whites saying he's one of their own, while I do see negroes claiming him (and self-loathing fat wiggers like yourself saying he's "black").

Is Halle Berry "black"?

Her mother was a pretty blonde nurse from Manchester, England. Would she be as attractive and feminine if both her parents were "black"?

Is Barack Obama "black"?

His mother was white. Would he be as articulate if both his parents were sub-Saharan Africans"? Yet negroes (and despicable wiggers like yourself) voted for him because he's "black".

THis should have been the thread ending post right here!

This clown is putting alot of effort into this strawman of a thread he started. There is obviously no logic to his posts, so we know hes not a logical person. Hes an anti-white person. Anti-White people are insane, and brainwashed.

THe worst part is that he thinks hes "educated". He starts a thread with the intention of educating us stupid Nazi, redneck, backwater, hillbilly, klansmen. He thinks hes actually making valid points that deserve some response. I guarantee after every post he pats himself on the back considering himself victorious in some sort of exposure of our logical fallacies. The problem is that HES the one with the logical fallacies.

I wonder how much time hes spent trolling pro black discussion forums telling them how "pathetic" they are for claiming Obama, Ben Henderson, Hallie Berry, and Tiger Woods as black?

 

[EurasianFan]

No wonder prince of persia was white-washed

Because white americans use these insignificant genetic graphs to claim heritage of persians even though they have very little to do with West Asian DNA and the Iranic phenotypes in the same they white-washed muhammad but mocked him.

 

[davidholly]

Again with this same graph.

What do you mean very little genetic difference? if it's only little why is it enough to belong to a seperate cluster and why do they have own caucasoid subrace

Clusters are arbitrary, they're based off the historic races. This chart compares the historical races to modern day genetics. Historically Middle Easterns and Europeans were considered separate but closely related races. The genetic difference between a British person and an Iranian is the same as the genetic difference between a Japanese person and a Chinese person. Do you consider Chinese and Japanese to be drastically different races?

 

[EurasianFan]

THis should have been the thread ending post right here!

This clown is putting alot of effort into this strawman of a thread he started. There is obviously no logic to his posts, so we know hes not a logical person. Hes an anti-white person. Anti-White people are insane, and brainwashed.

THe worst part is that he thinks hes "educated". He starts a thread with the intention of educating us stupid Nazi, redneck, backwater, hillbilly, klansmen. He thinks hes actually making valid points that deserve some response. I guarantee after every post he pats himself on the back considering himself victorious in some sort of exposure of our logical fallacies. The problem is that HES the one with the logical fallacies.

I wonder how much time hes spent trolling pro black discussion forums telling them how "pathetic" they are for claiming Obama, Ben Henderson, Hallie Berry, and Tiger Woods as black?

I never said I was educated and the previous post is absolutely meaningless to me.

How am I'm anti-white? just because I don't support the notion that whites are physically superior to every race like this forum is. I only came to this forum because some members here considered Eurasians as white which is very interesting to me. And I never said Black supremacist weren'ts psychos.

HOWEVER


Do Asians claim Amerindians are Asians? NO
Do Eurasians claim Mexicans are Eurasians? NO

But do Blacks claim Australian aborigines, Papuans, Melanesians, Mulatto, 1/4 black as black? YES.

And what what about white? do they claim middle easterner, north africans as white?

 

[davidholly]

Because white americans use these insignificant genetic graphs to claim heritage of persians even though they have very little to do with West Asian DNA and the Iranic phenotypes in the same they white-washed muhammad but mocked him.

"I don't agree with it so it's insignificant."

 

[EurasianFan]

Clusters are arbitrary, they're based off the historic races. This chart compares the historical races to modern day genetics. Historically Middle Easterns and Europeans were considered separate but closely related races. The genetic difference between a British person and an Iranian is the same as the genetic difference between a Japanese person and a Chinese person. Do you consider Chinese and Japanese to be drastically different races?

Funny, anyone can see that Iranians and Europeans look very distinctly different in terms of physical appearance. I've seen enough Iranians to know myself they always looked something from Arab, Palestinian even Paki occasionally but never seen one that look remotely European and their are always darker skinned and almost always dark hair.

And if Chinese and Japanese are really so different even though they are both sinodant what does this make dark skin southeast asian?

 

[davidholly]

Caucasians as a whole are far more related than Mongoloids as a whole. I'm done talking to you for now.

 

[Awake in America]

I wonder how much time hes spent trolling pro black discussion forums telling them how "pathetic" they are for claiming Obama, Ben Henderson, Hallie Berry, and Tiger Woods as black?

I have to agree, I don't ever call Obama or Tiger Woods "black" either. :eyebrows:

 

[EurasianFan]

Caucasians as a whole are far more related than Mongoloids as a whole.

And they say all Asians look the same?
How about all Caucasians look the same now?

So what exactly were we talking about? it all started with me asking if you would consider " Genghis Khan as part white" since Mongolians have about 15% Caucasian DNA you seem to think so but than I said no because 15% is too low and weak and even Turkish have much more foreign blood than Mongolian. Than we started talking about the DNA of Europeans and North African, middle easterner which I claimed there not that related and so Genghis Khan caucasian blood is not even european/white.

 

[EurasianFan]

Claiming that the difference between British and Iranians is only between Chinese and Japanese. Most people can't even tell the difference between Asians

How is this not laughable?


First try posting me a British individual that I could mistake for being Iranian.

 

[davidholly]

And they say all Asians look the same?
How about all Caucasians look the same now?

So what exactly were we talking about? it all started with me asking if you would consider " Genghis Khan as part white" since Mongolians have about 15% Caucasian DNA you seem to think so but than I said no because 15% is too low and weak and even Turkish have much more foreign blood than Mongolian. Than we started talking about the DNA of Europeans and North African, middle easterner which I claimed there not that related and so Genghis Khan caucasian blood is not even european/white.

Race is more than just phenotype and you just explained how we got into this. You said Middle Easterners and North Africans were distinct enough to be their own race. East Asians have even more genetic diversity than Caucasians as a whole.

If you'll notice this chart also includes Arctic North East Asians.

Which according to you are the same race.

But Caucasians aren't that closely related...

 

[davidholly]

Claiming that the difference between British and Iranians is only between Chinese and Japanese. Most people can't even tell the difference between Asians

How is this not laughable?


First try posting me a British individual that I could mistake for being Iranian.

It's called phenotype.

 

[EurasianFan]

It's called phenotype.

Yes so what? What are you trying to imply? How are Iranians and British closely related when their haplogroups, autosomal DNA, components are both different to each other?

 

[EurasianFan]

Race is more than just phenotype and you just explained how we got into this. You said Middle Easterners and North Africans were distinct enough to be their own race. East Asians have even more genetic diversity than Caucasians as a whole.
.

And they are dinstict, didn't I already showed you the graph

They aren't simply just Europeans who ended up in middle east or north africa and became dark skinned, they are are Caucasoid race that have seperated from Europeans and diverged from a extremely long time ago, they are enough to be their own race.

No wonder the Iranians are so pissed about how they used some swedish/English descent actor to play the main role which to me of some persian hero, to me is just one more bull**** excuse to glorify european race. And by using some genetic results about that British and Iranians are closely related justify their action but the problem is the highest class persians look european while the lowest class middle easterner.

POOR IRANIANS, their history is being white-washed with europeans claiming their history.

 

[davidholly]

Yes so what? What are you trying to imply? that race have nothing to do with phenotypes.

How are Iranians and British closely related when their haplogroups, autosomal DNA, components are both different to each other?

Their autosomal DNA isn't that different...

The problem is that you keep looking at **** like this...

Without realizing that some clusters are more closely related than others. For instance a person who was 100% orange cluster would be more closely related to someone who's 100% dark purple cluster than someone who was 100% green cluster. See what I mean now? You're not taking into account that some clusters are more related than others.

 

[davidholly]

And they are dinstict, didn't I already showed you the graph

They aren't simply just Europeans who ended up in middle east or north africa and became dark skinned, they are are Caucasoid race that have seperated from Europeans and diverged from a extremely long time ago, they are enough to be their own race.

Read my post after yours, the problem is your picture doesn't take into account the fact that some colors are more related than others. The person who's all yellow is more related to a person who's all orange than a person who's all red. Actually it does take it into account, as you can see all Caucasian clusters are a shade of blue.

No wonder the Iranians are so pissed about how they used some swedish/English descent actor to play the main role which to me of some persian hero, to me is just one more bull**** excuse to glorify european race. And by using some genetic results about that British and Iranians are closely related justify their action but the problem is the highest class persians look european while the lowest class middle easterner.

POOR IRANIANS, their history is being white-washed with europeans claiming their history.

National hero? Dude, that movie is based off a video game made by some white people. Are you really this ignorant?

 

[Wes Woodhead]

How am I'm anti-white?

Your anti-White because your spending so much energy making a fool of yourself here. If you were not anti-white you would spend an equal, or greater amount of time in black forums calling them "pathetic" for supporting Obama, Tiger and them.

 

[EurasianFan]

Their autosomal DNA isn't that different...

The problem is that you keep looking at **** like this...

Without realizing that some clusters are more closely related than others. For instance a person who was 100% orange cluster would be more closely related to someone who's 100% dark purple cluster than someone who was 100% green cluster. See what I mean now? You're not taking into account that some clusters are more related than others.

You have posted these DNA Charts like 3 times already, I don't need to see them so many times.

Your graph doesn't shows Europeans and Middle easterners are the same because if they were than they wouldn't be separated by a gap.

Here try this, the closest to the European cluster are Caucasus the rest are far.

 

[EurasianFan]

Read my post after yours, the problem is your picture doesn't take into account the fact that some colors are more related than others. The person who's all yellow is more related to a person who's all orange than a person who's all red. Actually it does take it into account, as you can see all Caucasian clusters are a shade of blue.




National hero? Dude, that movie is based off a video game made by some white people. Are you really this ignorant?

READ CAREFULLY AGAIN

I said persian hero not national hero.

 

[davidholly]

You have posted these DNA Charts like 3 times already, I don't need to see them so many times.

Your graph doesn't shows Europeans and Middle easterners are the same because if they were than they wouldn't be separated by a gap.

Here try this, the closest to the European cluster are Caucasus the rest are far.

I never said they were the same, they're very closely related is what I said. If you'll notice in this picture you posted all the Caucasian groups are a shade of blue.

That's because the Caucasian colors are more closely related to eachother than they are to yellow for example. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? Do you even read the text I post or do you just look at the images?

 

[EurasianFan]

I never said they were the same, they're very closely related is what I said. If you'll notice in this picture you posted all the Caucasian groups are a shade of blue.

That's because the Caucasian colors are more closely related to eachother than they are to yellow for example. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? Do you even read the text I post or do you just look at the images?

Again..... closely related is not enough for them to be considered European or White. Even East Africans have different genetics from west Africans not only in terms of caucasoid DNA but even SSA type of East African are different but their both *******.

Let's just agree, they are Caucasian and Middle easterners. That is it.

 

[EurasianFan]

Your anti-White because your spending so much energy making a fool of yourself here. If you were not anti-white you would spend an equal, or greater amount of time in black forums calling them "pathetic" for supporting Obama, Tiger and them.

I'm anti-nonsense of some members claim in this forum. Some people from this forum says the stupidest things ever.

Why would I give a crap about black? I have nothing to do with them.

 

[davidholly]

Let's just agree, they are Caucasian and Middle easterners. That is it.

That's all I ever said.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

I'm anti-nonsense of some members claim in this forum. Some people from this forum says the stupidest things ever.

Why would I give a crap about black? I have nothing to do with them.

Spoken like a true anit-white. You sure "give a crap about black" when you think your using them to make a point here.