Caving (spelunking). The Thai cave rescue story is a lie.

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  1. werewolf

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    I used to be a caver. The strict rule was minimum three lights per person, and of course helmets and strong shoes etc. The official story is they took off their shoes and the whole lot of them went in the cave with one single flashlight for everybody, past a big warning sign, in the rainy season, telling nobody where they were going. That could make sense if they just went in 10 feet or so. But they found them many miles inside crossed over many bad obstacles - caves are nothing but bad obstacles! How could they even have gotten to the place where they were found? Do you understand that caves are so dark that you can't see your hand in front of your face, and every movement is a peril from low roofs or stalagmites crashing into your head, pits and trenches in the floor, steep rocky climbs, narrow crawls - without shoes or helmets - one single flashlight for all of them? No way.
     
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    This story reeked of media/military ********. The lost boys just happened to be a “soccer team” during the World Cup. So the story invaded the sports page. Navy Seals drama, rescue 4 at a time to drag the story out. Now do the daytime drivel TV show circuit. What a heartwarming steaming pile of bs. Now, wait for the movie starring Tom Hanks as the pedophile sex tourist.
    Script written by the same guy who did the Chilean Miners story.
     
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    Here is a picture of a random cave. Thats what cave floors generally look like. Why would you take your shoes off to try to walk on that barefoot? It wasn't a paved tourist cave with hand railings. How could you get through that with only one light for everyone? You're helpless in a cave without light. What did they eat for 11 days? They didn't even bring flashlights why would they bring food? If that "coach" did lead them deep into that cave in the rainy season it sounds more like a one way death cult trip.

    If it was me they rescued they'd be sending me a bill for 12 trillion dollars.

    ICsept - I'm glad I'm not the only one suspicious of this story.
     
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    I never looked into that story, but from what y’all shared...it seems like a load of bunk.
     
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    More thoughts on the Thai cave story:

    I know something about caves. How could they have done it, even assuming their feet were tough as leather as people's feet will get if they spend their lives barefoot, which these boys didn't because it says they left their shoes outside the cave, and i dont think that people live their lives barefoot there. Would the coach have held the light in place as each person climbed his way or wiggled or crawled or squeezed or swam his way, or just walked on uneven very sharp ground, and then himself moved forward as they waited and then repeated the procedure? How can you even do that in tight and torturous passages? You need to know exactly where to place your hands and feet at all times and you can't do that if the angle of the light is coming from someplace else and not your own headlamp. And why? Why did they go into that cave in the rainy season? They were local and knew what happens there. Even if they weren't there was a big warning sign out front. And why would they go so deep into it, many miles, with one single light which could of course fail, or be dropped into a crevasse, or the batteries wear out, which they say it eventually did of course. MAKES NO SENSE.
     
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    There are already at least six separate films in the works about this fake news story. Movie deals, book deals, talk show circuits, acting careers...it's all the same, all the time. Even if something real happened it would just get cheapened and hackneyed to the consistency of mush by the mandatory media oversaturation.

    All of the "characters" in this story want their 15 minutes of fame. They act like it's the greatest event in their lives, and maybe their lives are so empty that it actually is.
     
  7. werewolf

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    The rescue was real enough, and the poor Thai navy seal's death was real enough. I just don't think we are getting the true story about how they got all the way in there in the first place. The one flashlight amongst them may have been a misreport or a misprint, because i cant see how that would be possible , even if they were planning to only go only one way in and then die in some strange ceremony. Shoe removal - was the cave floor all covered with soft mud? All the wild caves I've ever been in, including the wet ones, had floors of jagged rock, with pitfalls, stalegmites, bat guano, etc. Without helmets we'd be cracking our heads all the time. This worldwide round the clock story very abruptly vanished from the news, didn't it? I don't watch telavivavision so i don't know if they had any follow up or asked any questions like I'm asking, but i know the answer to that one already. Hollywood's version: oh wow i can hardly wait. Someone told me they've all become st keast temporary Buddhist monks with shaved heads and orange robes. I actually know a Laotian man here who used to be a Buddhist monk in Laos. I'd like to hear what he has to say, but i haven't seen him in a long time.
     

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