Black Actor to Play "Heimdall", the...

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  1. Highlander

    Highlander Mentor

    Nov 28, 2009
    ..."whitest of the gods" in the new "Thor" movie.

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    <h1>Idris Elba defends Thor film role</h1>

    Race debate stirs
    after London-born star of The Wire wins role as Norse deity Heimdall in
    Kenneth Branagh's new film Thor


    Idris Elba goes through his paces as a
    Norse deity on Friday Night With Jonathan Ross. Photograph: Brian J
    Ritchie/Rex Features

    Even for an actor who has played a vampire-hunter with a guilty
    conscience, a Baltimore crime lord with a taste for Adam Smith, and an asset manager with a
    stalker, the role of the Norse deity Heimdall â€" guardian of the burning
    rainbow bridge between the world of men and the world of gods â€" was
    always going to be a bit of a challenge.

    But playing a god in
    Kenneth Branagh's forthcoming film Thor has turned out to be the least
    of Idris Elba's worries, after fans of the comic books turned
    on the star of The Wire for reasons
    that have nothing to do with his acting ability and everything to do
    with the colour of his skin.

    When news emerged late last year that
    the 37-year-old black Londoner had been chosen to play Heimdall, "the
    whitest of the gods", a being who can hear the sap flowing in trees and
    look across time and space, many devotees of the Marvel comics on which
    the film is based flocked to online forums to weep, gnash their teeth
    and unleash a tide of indignation.

    A fortnight ago, the actor told
    Jonathan Ross that his take on Heimdall was "Norse by way of Hackney,
    Canning Town". And at the beginning of the month, he told a press
    conference that he saw his casting as an encouraging step.

    view was not shared among the more vehement of the comic books' fans.
    "This PC crap has gone too far!" wailed one. "Norse deities are not of
    an African ethnicity! "¦ It's the principle of the matter. It's about
    respecting the integrity of the source material, both comics and Norse

    Fellow fans were quick to nod their horn-helmeted

    "At the risk of sounding like a bigot, I think this is
    nuts!" said another. "Asgard is home to the Norse Gods!!! Not too many
    un-fair complexion types roaming the frigid waste lands up there. I
    wouldn't expect to see many Brad Pitt types walking around in the [first
    mainstream black superhero] Black Panther's Wakanda Palace!"

    who was born in Hackney, north-east London, to a Ghanaian mother and
    Sierra Leonean father, has addressed such concerns in a string of recent

    "There has been a big debate about it: can a black
    man play a Nordic character?" he told TV Times. "Hang about, Thor's
    mythical, right? Thor has a hammer that flies to him when he clicks his
    fingers. That's OK, but the colour of my skin is wrong?

    "I was
    cast in Thor and I'm cast as a Nordic god," he said. "If you know
    anything about the Nords, they don't look like me but there you go. I
    think that's a sign of the times for the future. I think we will see
    multi-level casting. I think we will see that, and I think that's good."

    who shot to fame as the erudite and thoughtful gangster Stringer Bell
    in critically acclaimed US television serial The Wire, also used his
    interview with TV Times to warn viewers against pigeonholing his new BBC crime drama, Luthe</span>r just because it was about a black policeman.

    think we'll put ourselves in a corner if we just describe Luther as a
    black detective," he said. "There haven't been many in the past, but the
    fact that he's black is neither here nor there."

    The actor added
    that while it was "great to have a character who happens to be black in
    the central position "¦ he still bleeds, just like anyone else".

    is working in the US and was unavailable for comment yesterday.

    his publicist flatly dismissed any suggestion of a row between fans and
    film-makers, telling the Guardian that the actor was merely being
    mischievous. "There's no controversy," said Rupert Fowler. "Idris was
    being flippant in the [TV Times] interview."

    His UK agent, Roger
    Charteris, said Elba had chosen the role of Heimdall on artistic rather
    than political grounds. "He just wanted to do the movie and work with
    Kenneth Branagh.

    "He liked the script and he liked the movie and
    he had always wanted to work with Kenneth Branagh. It wasn't like a
    statement: 'Oh, I'm going to do this.' It's always a purely creative

    Or perhaps Elba was seeking to emulate his fellow
    British actor and Wire costar Dominic West. Last year, West â€" who has
    played the Ukrainian-Russian son of Pablo Picasso, a Spartan statesman
    and a French detective â€" revealed he had decided to accept the part of
    the Australian scientist Professor Howard Florey in a BBC TV drama about
    the discovery of penicillin, in protest against non-English actors
    playing famous English roles. "I was sort of smarting from Russell Crowe
    coming over here and playing Robin Hood and all these foreigners coming
    over here and stealing our great heroes," he said, his tongue lodged
    firmly in his cheek. "I felt I was striking a blow back by being a Brit
    playing a foreigner."

    The Equality and Human Rights Commission
    said: "It's up to the casting director and producers to decide who is
    suitable for a role. It is not actually illegal to discriminate for
    authenticity purposes in the theatre. There is an exception under the
    Race Relations Act which says if it is required for the role, you can
    ask for someone of a certain colour."*******************************************************************
    I was a big fan of the Marvel "Thor" comics growing up as a kid in the 70's. I was really looking forward to this, I'll have to boycott it. It's getting to the point where I may never go to the cinema again, or at least, very rarely. When will this sh*t end!?

    Edited by: Highlander
  2. C Darwin

    C Darwin Mentor

    Mar 29, 2006
    New York
    "Thor has a hammer that flies to him when he clicks his fingers. That's OK, but the colour of my skin is wrong?"

  3. Charles Martel

    Charles Martel Hall of Famer

    Mar 14, 2007
    Marvel is a Jewish-owned and operated company. The comics series was originally written and drawn by two Jews, Stan Lee (Lieber) and Jack Kirby (Kurtzberg). The stories tended to degrade the legendary Norse god of thunder, with Odin portrayed an an angry old man whose son Thor was tormented by him.

    This comes as no surprise to me at all - the Jewish Supremacists are always at the cutting edge of PC. No doubt the negro Heimdall character will be portrayed in a positive way.
  4. Run Stuffing LB

    Run Stuffing LB Mentor

    Nov 8, 2006
    It's common practice for the foreign invader to attempt to distort the history and legends of the conquered to serve their own purposes, with the eventual goal of completely changing them. In a hundred years the handful of remaining White children will be taught that Europe has always been a majority black pit of diversity and that all inventions and culture stem from "minorities." This is the jewish goal. This sad, silly story represents one more small step towards that goal.Edited by: Run Stuffing LB
  5. Latspread

    Latspread Guru

    May 8, 2009
    This is absurd but unsurprising. The new Conan the Barbarianwill be played by some scrawny black guy also. I believe we may neveragain see a Hollywood produced movie that features a white alpha-male character. Further, they mayeventually (as they've begun to do) go back and remake every movie that starred astrong white male in the pastnow with a black cast in his place. The agenda is as obvious as it is repulsive.

    I predict both of these movieswill flop, as most of their ilk do.

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