ballon d'or

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  1. Europe

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    I wish we would have more tribalism in a way. The problem is we have been brainwashed not to look after our own people and give our countries away to foreigners.


    We have been taught to hate ourselves and feel guilty.

    Do you have a link that shows who people voted for?
     
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    It was a good goal. What were the finalists.
     
  3. frederic38

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    http://fr.fifa.com/mm/document/ball.../98/07/84/fboawardmenplayer2012-bycountry.pdf

    this link should work, but on my computer for some reason PDF can't be opened this way so i had to dowload the list (right click on the link and "save")

    i agree about tribalism, but on french forums usually when you talk about benzema,there are the die-hard benzema fans who won't accept any criticism and you just know that they are arabs, and you can't say it
    it's frustrating
     
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    I thought Benzema was a Kabyle. I know in Algeria Kabyles and Arabs often don't get along. Lots of towns in Kabylia are practically independent ignoring all laws from the national government and it is well-known that Kabyles are mostly secular. (A lot of them are also kind of white). Perhaps in France Kabyles and Arabs put aside their differences and gang up on the French. I don't know.

    BTW Frederic what are Alain Delon and Benzema talking about in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J20iEELgEtk

    I can read French (slowly:icon_grin:) but I can't pick it up by ear.

    (One of the YouTube commenters claims Benzema is not a Berber but from the Oranais region which is Arabised).
     
  6. frederic38

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    alain delon says that benzema must not think about the comparisons with zidane, he'll never be zidane, but he'll be benzema
    then he says that he doesn't know much about football but what he likes about benzema is that he seems to be ambitious
    then they joke with him about a brazilian player named "allan dellon" because of him

    benzema's father was a berber and his mother was indeed from oran and because of this, he never claims to be berber, he just feels algerian
    in france the differences between the kabyles and the other algerians tend to decrease, they pretty much feel algerian above all
    some are still proud of their berber heritage
    for example i knew a kabyle who was pretty proud of being kabyle, his father and mother were not muslim at all and they gave their son a french name, the father used to drink a lot of alcohol (he was addicted), yet when my friend grew up he started refusing to eat pork
    physically he was the typical kabyle, he had fair skin, black hair, and some strange facial features but looked white
    i knew a blond kabyle but he looked black as far as facial features go (he was a kabyle from morocco)
     
  7. Matra2

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    I finally saw the video of the Ballon d'Or award presentation. The guy on the radio who claimed Ronaldo behaved badly was wrong. He just made a disappointed facial expression and that's all. No big deal.

    BTW Ronaldo is off to a great start in 2013. He scored a hat-trick in a Copa del Rey match this week and on the weekend twice against Real Sociedad in the league.
     
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    That official "Fifa world team 2012" is a joke.:icon_lol: Dani Alves,Marcelo,Pique were crap and Pirlo was way better than Xabi Alonso.

    This team looks more realistic. The most difficult choice was the left back since there isnt much quality there. Ashley Cole gets the nod here since Chelsea won the Champions League. You could even think about putting in Arturo Vidal instead of Xavi, he was brilliant for Juventus.


    • Iker Casillas (Real Madrid)
    • Phillip Lahm (Bayern)
    • Thiago Silva (Paris)
    • Mats Hummels (Dortmund)
    • Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
    • Andres Iniesta (Barcelona)
    • Andrea Pirlo (Juventus)
    • Xavi (Barcelona)
    • Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
    • Lionel Messi (Barcelona
    • Robin Van Persie(Manchester United)/Franck Ribery(Bayern)
     
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    why put thiago silva? he's said to be the best in the world in this position so he is always in that kind of team
    let's put a player that won something last year: chellini from juventus went to the final of the euro champs , and won the italian league, or john terry
    ashley cole has a serious contender with jordi alba, alba was very important in spain's victory at the euro champs (against france, he created the first goal , and then he scored in the final)
    and i agree about the striker, i think that they could have put van persie, or maybe aguero for his season and his title-winning goal in the last seconds of the last game, instead of falcao
     
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    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned
    Fernando Torres.


    Source.

    If Fernando Torres was a black,rest assured he'd have won the Ballon D'Or.The media would have told us that irrespective of Messi's and Ronaldo's exploits,one cannot ignore the fact that Torres has won so much...and the award would be handed to him.
     
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    very true, that's why i was afraid that drogba might win it this year
    after the emotion of the champions league final, and all the propaganda in the french media (because drogba is kind of "french") i was 100% sure that he was going to win it
    i'm glad that the other castefootball members, who are not french, reminded me that drogba wasn't that important in the champions league victory
    i remember that after ramires' goal against barcelona in semi final, they showed drogba's face instead of ramires' on the french broadcast, they were obsessed with him
    they showed his face llike he scored that goal (ramires scored it on a perfect pass by lampard)
     
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    That is indeed a scary thought....a black being declared the best footballer on the planet!



    That is ridiculous^:censored:....who is the Drogba-loving(ugh!) homosexual who did that?In fact Drogba nearly lost them the tie by conceding a stupid penalty.

    Yep,Fat Frank stole the ball off Messi on the half-way line and set Ramires about...I'd say Lampard was the most integral part of that team,along with Cech.
     
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    here's what was written in france football (the ones who awarded the ballon d'or) when they gave it to georges weah:

    http://www.francefootball.fr/Ballon_Or_2012/bo_1995.php

    translation: he took advantage of the decay of big players, and the change of the rules of the award probably influenced the jury (that's what i said in my first post, weah is the only african to have won the ballon d'or award but he won it because france football just changed the rules, the award could be given to non-european players for the first time, so france football wanted to give it to a non-european - the chilean zamorano could have won the award since he was the top scorer of the spanish league with real madrid or the argentine batistuta who was incredible with firoentina in italy, but they looked too european)
     
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    i want to write an article for the home page about georges weah's ballon d'or, then i would post it on the "bigsoccer" forum, like we did for the pelé article
    could somebody put the article that i would write in perfect english?
     
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    i found this quote by juventus owner agnelli about zidane's spell with juventus (he won the ballon d'or while he played for juventus):


    note: the last phrase "and he was right" is ironic

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/1443845.stm

    by the way someone already answered my question in the last post by PM, so i have someone to translate and correct my article about weah when i'll write it
     
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    ribery won the "UEFA Club Footballer of the Year" award:

    [video=youtube_share;6cBwf9vDNJY]http://youtu.be/6cBwf9vDNJY[/video]

    he could win the ballon d'or award
    messi and cristiano ronaldo can win it too
    with the old way of voting , ribery would have won the ballon d'or award, but now it might be messi another time

    ribery is not the most likeable person, but it would be great if he could win the ballon d'or, and it's great that he's in the mix to win it
    because remember that ribery was an amateur player until 22 years old, and he should have never been a professional player because he was refused in lille's youth squads for being too small (like many white players)
    now his biggest weapon is his incredible physique
    he might be the most physical player in today's soccer, he's a freak
    i heard coaches say that he has unreal result in physical tests

    anyway, the ballon d'or is a story between whites once again :yo:
     
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    the list for the ballon d'or has been announced:

    Gareth Bale, Edinson Cavani, Radamel Falcao, Eden Hazard, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Andrés Iniesta, Philipp Lahm, Robert Lewandowski, Lionel Messi, Thomas Müller, Neymar, Manuel Neuer, Mesut Özil, Andrea Pirlo, Franck Ribéry, Arjen Robben, Cristiano Ronaldo, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Luis Suarez, Thiago Silva, Yaya Touré, Robin van Persie, Xavi

    white europeans (except the turk ozil), a few south american mestizos + lionel messi, and 1 african (yaya touré)
     
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    The Afro is there for quota reasons(last time around it was balotelli,right?).I'll be mad if Ribery wins it,my dislike of muslims is only trumped by the special hatred reserved for jews.

    Finally,I feel Schweinsteiger deserves it.
     
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    I don't like Ribery but he should win it. He was the "brain" of a brilliant Bayern team that destroyed everything in europe/germany. Messi scored a lot of goals but in the end Barcelona only won the league title.
     
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    That was Bastian Schweinsteiger,I feel.:ranger:

    Remember Arsenal beating Bayern Munich at the Allianz arena?Bastian Schweinsteiger was greatly missed that day.Oh,I do know that even Ribery didn't play that day either.
     
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    i'm not really sure if he is the most influential player in bayern munchen either
    i've been wondering that for the past 1 or 2 years, like a lot of people in france, we don't really know if our vision is biased by the fact that ribery is french
    anyways, i don't like him but if he does get the ballon d'or it would be incredible because he was a player victim of anti-white discrimination and should have never turned professional
     
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    Ribery is the epitome of an anti-white.
    The jewish,black scum had no choice.



    This creature did.So let me tell you if he could somehow purge himself of his own whiteness and become a nondescript yellowish-brown mongrel like the creature he choose to lay with.....he wouldn't wait a nanosecond to do it.
     
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    Of course,statistics are not everything,but Ribery's statistics are not the best.He had a goal,2 assists in the champions league last year.
    Robben had 4 goals,2 assists in 4 fewer appearances.

    Menez is the better French winger anyway.
     
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    very true
    but did ribery have the choice too?
    think about it
    in europe and in france slavery has always existed
    it's purpose was not to make money (like the slavery in the US or in french oversea departments) but to help people who couldn't live freely, because they didn't have the ability to be free
    it's obvious that ribery is not very bright
    he can barely talk, read or write
    so let's not blame him too much
    it's our fault for giving him a false sense of liberty
     
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    so theu gave it to ronaldo
    it seems like the most logical thing with today's rules

    ronaldo jumping and benzema looking:

    [video=youtube_share;6JZoRUzB2Bw]http://youtu.be/6JZoRUzB2Bw[/video]

    ronaldo the most athletic player
     

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