2018 NFL Draft

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  1. Leonardfan

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    So if a white QB does not have great arm strength it is an issue. But when a black QB does not have it the weenieworld experts will spin it to make it seem like it is not a big deal.


    Dat wrist flick:

    Louisville QB Lamar Jackson's fastest pass at the NFL Scouting Combine came in at just 49 MPH.

    This mark tied with USF's Quinton Flowers for the slowest fastball among quarterbacks throwing in Indianapolis. While Jackson's velocity was not ideal, it shouldn't be considered crippling. Deshaun Watson, for instance, also managed just 49 MPH for his fastest combine throw a year ago. Arm strength is not the be-all, end-all of being an NFL quarterback, though it certainly doesn't hurt.
     
  2. Extra Point

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    I watched Quinton Flowers throw at the Combine while at a pizza place. He looked very inaccurate. Based on this, his 53% completion percentage his last year in college and his weak arm strength, he should never have been invited to the Combine. He was unquestionably invited due to black privilege.

    He certainly shouldn't be drafted, based on his lack of merit.
     
  3. Extra Point

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    I purchased a draft magazine, Pro Football Weekly's 2018 Draft Guide. Pro Football weekly went out of business but has made a comeback.

    Their draft magazine this year is thinner than their magazines in the past. I bought their 2012 magazine and it was thicker than the current one. I still have the 2012 magazine.
     
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    Wide receivers... The Pro Football Weekly 2018 Draft Guide rates Justin Watson as a 3rd round pick. It rates Trey Quinn as a 4th to 5th round pick. It rates Jake Wieneke as a 6th round pick. It rates Braxton Berrios as a 7th round pick. It doesn't mention Dylan Cantrell.
     
  5. Leonardfan

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    Chris Simms has really become quite the cuck:

    Chris Simms believes Louisville's Lamar Jackson is the top QB prospect in the 2018 class.

    "Jackson is a legit pocket passer and decision maker," Simms states, adding the quarterback is exiting a pro-style offense. Simms also praises Jackson's quick release and believes some of the quarterback's best throws turned out to be incomplete due to drops. Every quarterback offers a different set of skills, so the rankings of the prospects likely relies on what flavor you like. Jackson is a big play threat with his arm and legs.
     
  6. celticdb15

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    Lol

    "Dat upside"

    "Blank canvas"
     
  7. Leonardfan

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    Some more bad news. UMASS TE Adam Breneman has retired rather than pursue an NFL career. That is too bad but his work over the past two seasons at UMASS was stellar. He was fun to watch.
     
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  10. Leonardfan

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    It seems that this season it is harder and harder to find full pro day results being posted for all participants. Perhaps they don't want the full flow of information out there since many performances of white athletes spit right in the face of the caste system and its stereotypes.
     
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    Good observation in years past I feel like pro days were major events. Thus year I've barely heard a peep.

    *** Results from Wisconsin Pro day .

    http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/...cle_70c6911c-ada4-50fb-9a2c-9b93cf1138a7.html
     
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  12. Leonardfan

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    I have been googling specific schools pro day results and getting next to nothing outside of the "featured" players it seems. Pretty amazing considering all the twitter/forums/blogs that cover the draft.
     
  13. Extra Point

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    It seems to me there were more forums and blogs in the past covering the draft than there are now. Everything seems to be more "centralized" now.
     
  14. Extra Point

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    At one point the mainstream media projected Baker Mayfield as a high first round pick, even the number one pick overall. Now, all of a sudden they're projecting him to be drafted in the bottom half of the first round.

    The thing is they all always have the same general opinion. There seems to be little independent thinking.

    Did Mayfield's tape change since the season ended? Why the change?

    For the record I think Mayfield is the best quarterback in the draft and a potential franchise quarterback. I'd draft him high in the first round.
     
  15. Leonardfan

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    The Steelers were at Oklahoma State's pro day and seem to have interest in QB Mason Rudolph as Big Ben's potential replacement. Looks like Josh Dobbs may be a one and done much to the chargin of DWFs of the Steelers.
     
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    The biggest issue that I have with NFL GM's and with the draft in particular is that so many of these GM's try to run their team like an NBA team. In other words, they go for the potential home run hitter instead of just trying to build a solid team of role players that does their jobs (a la New England) You can't build an NFL team that way. This is why inferior black players tend to get drafted ahead of superior white players. We've discussed the concept of "upside" ad nauseum on this forum but one thing that really made me notice this was today on a Dolphin DWF board, they were complaining about how the team has no stars now. You don't need stars to win in the NFL. New England has Tom Brady and a bunch of role players but they get the job done because they check their egos at the door and play well as a team. There's a reason Miami got rid of these guys like Landry and Pouncey. It's called 'addition by subtraction' You can be a talented afflete, but if you aren't helping the team win, then what good are you? This is why I believe that the teams with more whites tend to be more successful.
     
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    There's talk in the mainstream media that the Dolphins need to move on from Ryan Tannehill. This is ridiculous. Tannehill is a franchise quarterback.

    They would never be saying this if he wasn't white. Compare the treatment of Tannehill and Teddy Bridgewater. Tannehill's a better quarterback yet they build up Bridgewater and tear down Tannehill. The mainstream media's anti-white bias is obvious.
     
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    More on Nall. This is overall a pretty good article, but gotta love this quote: "Nall does not have typical breakaway speed for an NFL running back, but he has enough to be dangerous. Against Pac-12 opponents, Nall regularly showed the ability to blow by defensive backs. His speed is deceptive, as his size and somewhat stiff running style give the appearance he is all power and nothing else. But his 4.58 40 time was 14th among running backs at the combine."

    Uh, having the ability to regularly blow by defensive backs is the definition of breakaway speed. Reading this article he really has no weaknesses other than those pinned to him simply because he's White. I hope the Vikings or Patriots take him, those are probably the two teams most likely to use him as what he is, a very athletic and talented running back. https://fullpresscoverage.com/2018/03/15/vikings-draft-prospect-rb-ryan-nall/
     
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    Couple of Pro Day Results :

    Colorado SS Ryan Moeller

    6ft 208lbs
    4.63 40
    19bench reps
    34inch vert
    10'3 broad jump
    7.08 3 come

    Good workout for a Strong Safety. Would have fit right in at combine. Should be considered as a late rd pick .

    Marshall TE/Hback Ryan Yurachek

    6'1 240lbs
    4.74 40

    QB prospect Chase Litton completed 72 of his 75 throws.

    Montana St. SS Bryson McCabe

    6ft 205lbs
    4.56 40
    12bench reps
    6.75 3cone
    39.5 vert
    10'2 broad

    Another good workout this time from FCS level.

    Wisconsin FB Austin Ramesh

    6'1 255lbs
    4.78 40
    24 bench reps
    6.75 3cone
    32 vert
    9'10 broad jump

    Excellent workout for top FB in draft.

    Wisconsin FS Joe Ferguson

    6'1 195lbs
    4.63 40
    5bench reps
    6.62 3cone
    34.5 vert
    10'4 broad

    Slightly underwhelming performance. Dipping into 4.5s would have helped him a lot, though he had good jumps and agility. 5 bench reps is weak.

    LB Jack Cichy

    6'2 238lbs
    6.88 3cone
    33.5vert

    Looked solid in position drills. His agent is confident he'll be drafted. "Just throw on his tape."
     
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    A couple more:

    Jacksonville St. OG Dylan Cline

    6'3 288lbs
    5.27 40
    27 bench reps

    Late rd Guard prospect.

    Princeton QB Chad Kanoff

    6'4 220lbs
    4.9 40

    Potentially Another late rd pick. At one time a 3star prospect committed to Vanderbilt.

    Washington St. RT Cody O'Connell

    6'8 352lbs
    28 bench reps

    Mammoth RT. Mid to late rd guy.

    Army LT Brett Toth
    6'6 287lbs
    5.09 40
    16 bench reps

    Scouts are impressed with Toth's size and athleticism. Should get drafted despite military obligation.

    Alabama OL Bradley Bozeman

    6'4 295lbs
    5.45 40
    27bench reps

    Colorado OL Jeromy Irwin

    6'4 295lbs
    5.34 40
    28 bench reps

    Purdue RT Dave Steinmetz
    6'7 320lbs
    26 bench reps
    33vert
     
  22. Leonardfan

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    Good stuff Celtic - I am interested to see what Cole Reyes does at his pro day. Hopefully we get a handful of DBs drafted or signed as UDFAs.
     
  23. Leonardfan

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    Ostman proving he was plenty athletic.


    Pass rusher Joe Ostman, who had a fine week of practice before the Shrine Game, also impressed. He measured 6022/253 pounds, timed the forty between 4.75s to 4.78s, had an impressive 3 cone time of 7.06s and was in the low 4.3’s for the short shuttle. Ostman completed 31 reps on the bench press, touched 36.5 inches on the vertical jump and reached 10-feet-2-inches in the broad jump. He looked good in all his drills.
     
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    Excellent workout for Ostman! He should have no problem transitioning to 3-4 OLB in NFL.
     
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    The Jets traded up to the third overall pick. My guess is they are going to target Rosen. I really hope the Bills aren't targeting Jackson as their QB.
     

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