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I am not saddened by the news thatAdu will not be on the US squad, though I am not against him having asatisfactory career in MLS.
I think that by "latinos" europe means blacks, reds, or mestizos from latin america. is that correct, europe?

Yes, no question, Messi is white. Obviously, ifa person is of pure bloodedwhite descent, andis from Latin america,he is still white. Latin america is filled with white people, especially in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, and Southern Brazil. These regions are an extension of european civilization.
 

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Solomon Kane said:
 <div>I think that by "latinos" europe means blacks, reds, or mestizos from latin america. is that correct, europe?</div>
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<div>Yes, no question, Messi is white.  Obviously, if a person is of pure blooded white descent, and is from Latin america, he is still white.  Latin america is filled with white people, especially in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, and Southern Brazil.  These regions are an extension of european civilization.</div>
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By Latino I meant a non-black from south of the border. Americans don't really distinguish between a Guatemalan or a Mexican. They would probably just call them all Mexicans. Messi , while white, would probably not be considered white by most Americans, especially if he were an immigrant speaking Spanish. He would be lumped together with everyone else. I am sure there are people from Spain who speak with an accent in the US who would be considered Mexican if an American met him and didn't know.Technically,a Hispanic could be anyone from a Spanish speaking country, but I don't think an American would call a black person from Colombia a Hispanic. They would call him black.It says in wiki that even a Filipino would be considered Hispanic, but nobody in America would consider them Hispanic.

I still don't like all the South American taking spots from Europeans even if they are white. There should be strict limits on foreign players in each country.It should be 1-3 total on a team including subs.
I don't know why people can't see their own interests and support their countryman more.They could have kids or grandchildren who lose out even if they aren't playing now.
 

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apparently being black and wanting to be on the team should be enough to qualify you to make the USA World Cup roster, all facts that you're not fit be damned... at least, that's the story of Charlie Davies according to yahoo.com.

When Bob Bradley's 30-man roster for the U.S. World Cup training camp was announced on Tuesday, the first thing everyone saw was that there was no Charlie Davies. Like most everyone else, when he heard the news of his World Cup exclusion in part because his French club, Sochaux, wouldn't give him medical clearance to join camp, he was understandably upset. And, as he says, "very angry."


On Wednesday night he expressed those still raw emotions to French radio station RMC.
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"It's frustrating because for the past months I've been training with the (Sochaux) team,"Â￾ Davies said. "I've progressed a lot, I continue to progress, I still have to progress but I'm definitely ready to play."Â￾ [...]


"It's a very strange situation, I feel hurt because I feel like I've been let down by my club.


"Bob Bradley called me the night before the selection was put out to the press. He explained to me that Sochaux sent a letter saying they were not going to clear me medically and wouldn't release me to go with the national team. And that this had a big part to play in not being able to select me. [...]


"I'm very angry because I feel FC Sochaux has denied me a chance at playing in the World Cup. Of course I'm not at 100 percent now but I feel that by the time our World Cup camp starts next week I would be at a level where I can compete for one of the forward spots."Â￾ [...]


"By the first game against England, I feel I would be able to be at 100 percent and really contribute for the national team. So for me not being able to get a chance is very painful."Â￾</BLOCKQUOTE>


His battle to regain his fitness in time for the World Cup after that devastating car accident that nearly killed him and took the life of another passenger in the car in which he was riding last October served as an inspiration to his teammates and rallying point for fans. He seemed to be progressing freakishly fast and has maintained an impossibly positive outlook the whole way -- impressions that Sochaux apparently does not share.


It doesn't sound like Bradley or the U.S. federation did much to try and sway Sochaux in their position to not give Davies clearance, but inspirational stories with a fairytale ending aside, the club's position is understandable. Davies just signed with Sochaux last summer and played just six matches (in which he scored two goals) before the accident, so their desire to protect their investment from any further damage seems reasonable.


Still, it's hard not to wish that everyone involved in this decision shared Davies' unwavering optimism and belief. Even if it's not entirely realistic.
 

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I saw this story yesterday as well, it made me laugh. I was going to post it, but since I'd already contributed my one story this year to the soccer forum the f3dor saved, I decided against posting it!
I don't know much about soccer and if Bradley is/was any good prior to his accident, but I wish him the best
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Europe said:
Solomon Kane said:
 <div>I think that by "latinos" europe means blacks, reds, or mestizos from latin america. is that correct, europe?</div>
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<div>Yes, no question, Messi is white.  Obviously, if a person is of pure blooded white descent, and is from Latin america, he is still white.  Latin america is filled with white people, especially in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, and Southern Brazil.  These regions are an extension of european civilization.</div>
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By Latino I meant a non-black from south of the border. Americans don't really distinguish between a Guatemalan or a Mexican. They would probably just call them all Mexicans. Messi , while white, would probably not be considered white by most Americans, especially if he were an immigrant speaking Spanish. He would be lumped together with everyone else. I am sure there are people from Spain who speak with an accent in the US who would be considered Mexican if an American met him and didn't know.Technically,a Hispanic could be anyone from a Spanish speaking country, but I don't think an American would call a black person from Colombia a Hispanic. They would call him black.It says in wiki that even a Filipino would be considered Hispanic, but nobody in America would consider them Hispanic.

I still don't like all the South American taking spots from Europeans even if they are white. There should be strict limits on foreign players in each country.It should be 1-3 total on a team including subs.
I don't know why people can't see their own interests and support their countryman more.They could have kids or grandchildren who lose out even if they aren't playing now.

Thats ridiculous that in the US Messi would not be seen as white just because he speaks spanish. Spain is a predominately white nation..and so is Argentina!!
 

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Thats ridiculous that in the US Messi would not be seen as white just because he speaks spanish. Spain is a predominately white nation..and so is Argentina!!
Agreed! I'm sick and tired of this bullcrap nonsense of Hispanics being given a racial value. Let me make it clear one last time... the only difference between a Hispanic White and a Non-Hispanic White is the language alone... SPANISH.

Spanish is a European Language, NOT a Native Latin American Language. South America IMO is technically part of the WEST. Because in-spite of what the moronic media will make you believe, Latin America is highly Westernized. The people speak a European language, practice Christianity, and follow many European cultural customs.

When I look at Saul Alvarez, I see a white person who proudly hails from Mexico. Just because he speaks Spanish doesn't mean he's NOT white. Scott Fujita maybe Japanese, but he'll always be a white person to me. You're white regardless of your native language. Edited by: j41181
 

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often people ask from someone who is white if he is white or hispanic, I also think stop that nonsense!

Someone said in this thread that van Persie is mixed white and north african but he is not.He lived in his youth in a town with a lot of north africans, and he even sounded like one a bit but he is not.


4 years ago when Holland had a very white squat Winston Bogarde a black, and that wasn't a good player that black holland players have to be 10 times better to get pro, but what i was thinking was if black have tobe better to get pro how is he became a pro becuase he is was not a good pleyer at all.

He is also said that in 2006 when Holland squat was like 80% white that van Basten wanted to get world champion with a white squat.And a lot of black in holland said they not support holland anymore because not enough blacks, they were used to the 90's when holland was a crazy over 50% black when they are a minority in society in holland.
 

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waterbed said:
4 years ago when Holland had a very white squat Winston Bogarde a black, and that wasn't a good player that black holland players have to be 10 times better to get pro, but what i was thinking was if black have tobe better to get pro how is he became a pro becuase he is was not a good pleyer at all.

Stating the exact opposite of the truth is a common tactic used by the media. Obviously, it is 10 times easier to go professional in a sport if you are black.
 

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waterbed said:
often people ask from someone who is white if he is white or hispanic, I also think stop that nonsense!

Someone said in this thread that van Persie is mixed white and north african but he is not.He lived in his youth in a town with a lot of north africans, and he even sounded like one a bit but he is not.


4 years ago when Holland had a very white squat Winston Bogarde a black, and that wasn't a good player that black holland players have to be 10 times better to get pro, but what i was thinking was if black have tobe better to get pro how is he became a pro becuase he is was not a good pleyer at all.

He is also said that in 2006 when Holland squat was like 80% white that van Basten wanted to get world champion with a white squat.And a lot of black in holland said they not support holland anymore because not enough blacks, they were used to the 90's when holland was a crazy over 50% black when they are a minority in society in holland.

People call someone Hispanic because they come from another culture. A white Mexican is a Mexican and is not accepted in America as the same as a German or Dutch. It's that simple. Look at Freddie Prinze. What is he? He is an Hispanic, although he is half Hungarian and his mother is Puerto Rican, but nobody would consider him as white like Joe Mauer.

Is Lorena Ochoa white?Probaby. But I don't think white Americans would put her in the same category as Sorenstam or Gulbis.
 

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Jack Lambert said:
Some bad news for Germany.
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German Captain Michael Ballack out for World Cup.

Hopefully, the Germans will still be a threat without him.

Look at who injured him with a cheap shot: Kevin-Prince Boateng.Guess what color he is with that name.

This guy is of Ghanaian descent and has chosen to represent Ghana in the World Cup. I'll bet he says he's German, but then, when he can't play for Germany ,he represents Ghana. I am glad Boateng is not playing for Germany.

Dirty Foul knocking Ballack out of WCEdited by: Europe
 

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waterbed said:
germany has still a lot of strength.I wounder if holland have enough power against the very white teams in the world cup.


Agreed, Ballack may be the official captain, but guys like Miroslav Klose (2nd overall goal scorer in Germany's history and 2006 Golden Boot winner), Philipp Lahm, Lukas Podolski, and Bastian Schweinsteiger all play well on the world stage. They're still a top 5 team.
 

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Jack Lambert said:
Some bad news for Germany.
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German Captain Michael Ballack out for World Cup.

Hopefully, the Germans will still be a threat without him.


Michael Ballack is one of my favorite international soccer players and it's sad to see him not be able to play for Germany which at his advanced age of 33 might very well be his last World Cup. We still got Klose and Podolski to watch and Podolski in particular has got explosive speed especially with the ball at his feet.
 

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ESPN keeps showing a new World Cup advertisement, and when I first saw it.. I thought one of the scenes was a mulatto woman kissing a blonde woman and I was like "what the hell?"..

So, I've seen the ad 2 more times now, and it's a medium-lengthed (hair) blonde man kissing what definitely appears to be a frizzy-haired mulatto woman. When will the propaganda end?
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Deadlift said:
ESPN keeps showing a new World Cup advertisement, and when I first saw it.. I thought one of the scenes was a mulatto woman kissing a blonde woman and I was like "what the hell?"..

So, I've seen the ad 2 more times now, and it's a medium-lengthed (hair) blonde man kissing what definitely appears to be a frizzy-haired mulatto woman. When will the propaganda end?
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What about that black actor they have previewing the teams.
 

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Here is a point to ponder - given the location of this edition of the tournament, I will not be at allsurprised if an African team is given a dodgy refereeing-assisted run to the semi-finals stage, in order to further "promote" Africanfootball.In fact, this is exactly what I expect. Why? Permit me to elaborate...
A precedent for blatantly favouring a nation from the non-European hosting continent was set back in 2002 with co-hosts South Korea being the beneficiaries of essentially openly biased decisions throughout the competition. The largely Third-Worldreferees and linesmengave the Koreansfree rein to perpetrate endless cynically brutal fouls and engage in unsportsmanlike spoiling tactics, culminating in the utter farce of their final group game, where Portugal had two players conveniently sent off, and of their second round and quarter finals matches against, respectively,Italy and Spain. This was startlinglyflagrant cheating on the world stage - IrecallFrancesco Totti being sent off in extra time to give the Asians a one-man advantage and Spain having two legitimate goals disallowed. I could rail at length about the various incidents, but it's easier for You to watch this compilation ofepisodes from the two games and see for Yourselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddUKHMLAckE

FIFA is a thoroughly corrupt organisation which controls the most popular sport on the planet. As I have mentioned in other posts, the immense appeal of football makes FIFA one of the most potent globaldisseminators of anti-White propaganda, it's influence unparalleled in the sporting world. It's no coincidence that at the beginning of each match both captains shall read out a carefully standardised script decrying the evils of "racism" to all of those young (and not-so-young) and impressionable fans. Quite naturally, this is aimed squarely at the evil White man for, as all non-Whites know, only the devilish European is a despicable racist. The "Kick Racism Out Of Football" and "Give Racism The Red Card" brainwashing campaigns are an integral part of "modern football culture", which serves to break down racial and national identity among Whites, while promoting the"universal ideals" of "tolerance" and "black/Hispanic/Asian/mulatto and sundry half-breedpride".

The pathologically leftist ghouls of FIFA would be salivating into their boots at the prospect of seeing a black African team (preferably hosts South Africa) line up in the final against race-mixing/black immigrationposter boys Brazilor France,in a minimally-White showpiece. I'm sure that thematch officials shall turn a proverbial blind eye to the characteristic undisguised thuggery of African players - here is a little clip of nice, cleanAfrican defending, dating from the 1990 World Cup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRlJJbtdHc

I'm sure that we'll see plenty of this type of honourable play in the next couple of weeks - hell, that misbegotten creature Kevin-Prince Boateng already started on the opposition before the tournament has even commenced...
 

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Rebajlo said:
Here is a point to ponder - given the location of this edition of the tournament, I will not be at all surprised if an African team is given a dodgy refereeing-assisted run to the semi-finals stage, in order to further "promote" African football. In fact, this is exactly what I expect. Why? Permit me to elaborate...
<div>A precedent for blatantly favouring a nation from the non-European hosting continent was set back in 2002 with co-hosts South Korea being the beneficiaries of essentially openly biased decisions throughout the competition. The largely Third-World referees and linesmen gave the Koreans free rein to perpetrate endless cynically brutal fouls and engage in unsportsmanlike spoiling tactics, culminating in the utter farce of their final group game, where Portugal had two players conveniently sent off, and of their second round and quarter finals matches against, respectively, Italy and Spain. This was startlingly flagrant cheating on the world stage - I recall Francesco Totti being sent off in extra time to give the Asians a one-man advantage and Spain having two legitimate goals disallowed. I could rail at length about the various incidents, but it's easier for You to watch this compilation of episodes from the two games and see for Yourselves:</div>
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<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddUKHMLAckE</div>
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<div>FIFA is a thoroughly corrupt organisation which controls the most popular sport on the planet. As I have mentioned in other posts, the immense appeal of football makes FIFA one of the most potent global disseminators of anti-White propaganda, it's influence unparalleled in the sporting world. It's no coincidence that at the beginning of each match both captains shall read out a carefully standardised script decrying the evils of "racism" to all of those young (and not-so-young) and impressionable fans. Quite naturally, this is aimed squarely at the evil White man for, as all non-Whites know, only the devilish European is a despicable racist. The "Kick Racism Out Of Football" and "Give Racism The Red Card" brainwashing campaigns are an integral part of "modern football culture", which serves to break down racial and national identity among Whites, while promoting the "universal ideals" of "tolerance" and "black/Hispanic/Asian/mulatto and sundry half-breed pride".</div>
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<div>The pathologically leftist ghouls of FIFA would be salivating into their boots at the prospect of seeing a black African team (preferably hosts South Africa) line up in the final against race-mixing/black immigration poster boys Brazil or France, in a minimally-White showpiece. I'm sure that the match officials shall turn a proverbial blind eye to the characteristic undisguised thuggery of African players - here is a little clip of nice, clean African defending, dating from the 1990 World Cup:</div>
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<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRlJJbtdHc</div>
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<div>I'm sure that we'll see plenty of this type of honourable play in the next couple of weeks - hell, that misbegotten creature Kevin-Prince Boateng already started on the opposition before the tournament has even commenced... </div>


This is why they need replay, so they can fix the bad offside calls and penalties, but Fifa doesn't want it, I think, because it can't be standardized throughout the world. So, a bunch of 3rd world countries can't afford it, so they penalize Europe. These blacks and Brazilians shouldn't even be playing in Europe as far as I am concerned. And I would have to include white Argentinians also. Europe should be for Europeans. Americans should play in the MLS. Europe should break with FIFA.

You already see articles in the US on how great it would be to have an African team do well. I am sick of it. ESPN is going overboard on apartheid and it will only get worse.

I am also sick of all of these anti racism campaigns.. These black people shouldn't even be in Europe, as well as all the North Africans.
The blacks in Europe aren't even descendants of slaves like SOME of the blacks in America, but that was 150 years ago. Of course,there has been much immigration from Africa and the caribbean the last 40 years,but these people are getting affirmative action also.

You don't want to get a African team in the knockout stages that is for sure.

Look at how Boateng will call himself a "German", but when he can't make the team, he bolts for Ghana. You also have several Algerians who I am sure call themselves French, but are now on the Algerian team.

Did you see the new Sports Illustrated with soccer on the cover. Guess what they show in the article? A bunch of black kids in African kicking the ball around on dirt in Africa.
 

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It looked like Totti was totally nailed for a penalty and yet he gets a yellow for diving and a red card because that is 2 yellows. Unbelievable.
 

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That's a flaw in soccer when you can nail a guy late like that to stop a possible goal. Sure he gets a red, but it's not a penalty shot.Edited by: Europe
 

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The English lack discipline according to this moron,while the Africans don't. And this is written by an Englishman. Would he say that about an African?

No discipline?

WHAT have the following in common?
Mikel (Chelsea), Darren Fletcher (Manchester United), Alex Song (Arsenal), Wilson Palacios (Spurs), Nigel de Jong (Man City), Stiliyan Petrov (Aston Villa) and Javier Mascherano (Liverpool).

They all play in a midfield holding position - though Fletcher, of course, has other strings to his bow.

Their clubs finished in the top seven in the Premier League.

They are all, begging Scotsman Fletcher's pardon, foreign.

Which explains why injuries to Owen Hargreaves and Gareth Barry have rocked England's World Cup plans.

We just do not appear to have anywhere near sufficient numbers in a position that relies on one trait that seems to be beyond most Englishmen.

Discipline.

The discipline to stick to a plan and a specific area of the field without any rush of blood to the head.

In essence, the ability to perform the sort of measured job Mascherano does so astutely for Liverpool and Argentina. The importance of Barry in providing England with a natural balance - his left foot the perfect foil to Frank Lampard's right - is such that he will be given until World Cup deadline day to reclaim fitness.

That means 24 hours before the opening game against the USA in Rustenburg when the City star will not have played for 38 days.

Even then, Fabio Capello may gamble on Barry's availability for one of the later group games.

The perversity of all this is that he doesn't even play in the holding position for his club.

Yet such is his value to Capello, who has started Barry in 19 of his 23 games in charge, that how to replace him has become the big talking point of England's countdown to the World Cup.

This has become even more of a debate after the failure of James Milner and Michael Carrick against Mexico.

Now we have just one game left against Japan in Graz on Sunday to solve the dilemma should Barry fail to recover.

This is why it is essential Scott Parker and Tom Huddlestone be given a minimum 45 minutes each. Should Parker be awarded less, there seems little point in him being called up for the first time since November 2008.

To be blunt, if Parker is the answer then it must be one hell of a problem.

He has his supporters after successive Hammer of the Year awards at Upton Park.

There is concern Parker is not a bone fide international. That he has looked good in unremarkable teams at Charlton, Newcastle and West Ham.


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And that he failed to make any impact at Chelsea where Jose Mourinho preferred run-of-the-mill players like Tiago and Jiri Jarosik.

And then there's Huddlestone. He didn't do too badly against Mexico in his 28 minutes, though Steven Gerrard was credited for battening down the hatches.

Yes, he lacks a bit of pace and mobility, yet in the controlled role he will be asked to adopt this is not necessarily such a bad thing.

There will be many hoping to see him get a start alongside Lampard in Austria.

Should it go pear-shaped again, then what's the betting Capello reverts to a central midfield of Lampard and Gerrard against the USA?

And how amusing it would be if it worked!



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He'll be eating his words when a European country captures the World Cup right in front of those bloody Marxist ingrates!
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the variation in amount of white players out of 23 is of the european countries ranging from 23 ,to of course france in last place with 9 whites, 2 years ago france had only 7 whites in their squat so now they have more.
 

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England is going to have 7 blacks starting in the friendly Sunday. It shouldn't be the case in the World Cup though.
 
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