White Quarterbacks

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  1. Freethinker

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    No offense to Davis Mills, but Trubisky is 100 times better. So is Gardner Minshew. Too bad these guys are stuck in situations where they have no chance of starting.
     
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  3. Extra Point

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    Some good white quarterbacks entered the league in 2022.

    Mac Jones has already shown he can be a star.

    Davis Mills had the second best year for rookies. He looks as if he will develop into a solid starter.

    Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson played like rookies in 2022 but both have big upsides.

    Shane Buechele looks as if he'll have a good career a quality backup, maybe even as a spot starter.

    The jury is still out on Ian Book and Sam Ehlinger but both have some positive things about their game.

    All in all a good class.
     
  4. Jerry Reb

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    Yes, Lawrence and Wilson are both high ceiling type players with lots of upside. The Jets and the Jags need to draft well to support them and let them realize their full potential.
     
  5. Extra Point

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    Yes. Both teams need to address their offensive lines.
     
  6. Warhawk_46

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    Honestly you would think teams would learn to ensure a robust offensive line before drafting a franchise quarterback. Otherwise David Carr, Blaine Gabbert and others who were elite talents will get beat up and wasted.

    Sure a generational talent like Andrew Luck could hang around for a few years but will be so beat up early retirement will be needed.

    Football is won and lost in the trenches. It always has been and always will be.
     
  7. Leonardfan

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    I’m not too worried about Lawrence. Given everything he dealt with this year I think it will make him a better player in year 2. I am hoping they hire Kellen Moore as the HC - good offensive mind.
     
  8. icsept

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    With 7 of the final 8 playoff teams featuring White quarterbacks, the “future” of the position has once again been put on hold.
     
  9. Freethinker

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    And our future looks brighter. Burrows, Herbert and Allen were all top QBs. Murray, Prescott and Jackson all had regressions.

    Now I’m hoping that Lawrence, Jones (Mac or Daniel), Wilson or Mills will take a big 2nd year step forward.
     
  10. Leonardfan

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    Daniel Jones is probably on thin ice with the Giants - another case of a White QB going to a dysfunctional team - bad oline, mediocre skill position players, dysfunctional coaches, poor offensive system. It will really depend on who the next head coach and GM are.

    Mills was the pleasant surprise of the year for me. He was a player I expected not too much from because his experience in college was so limited. He really improved as the season went on. I am curious to see if Caserio was the White friendly voice on the Pats. If he can get high picks for the perv Watson, rebuild the Oline and maybe draft a Whitey on offense and defense the Texans will be a team to root for in the future.

    Lawrence and Mac Jones - not too worried about either of them. Mac Jones got a year of experience in the league and led his team to the playoffs. He’s the total package in terms of a QB - the game will slow down for him. Lawrence was drafted into a bad situation - his overhyped head coach was disgraced and fired, the Jags have a lot of mediocrity on the roster. Lawrence should be fine, his composure and maturity along with his physical ability will get him to bounce back.
     
  11. Bucky

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    Agreed LF. Be interesting to see what happens with Trubisky and Minshew. Both guys CF think should be in line for another starting job. Really interested to see what Washington Swamp does with Heinicke as well.
     
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    Lawrence and Zach Wilson are in horrible situations. Jags, personnel wise, will likely be very active this offseason, so we could see a totally different Trevor next year! Could be good or bad.
    Unfortunately I don’t see the Jets changing much. Saleh will likely focus on improving the defense, which would of course save his tail but put Wilson right in front of the bus.
    Wilson and Lawrence will definitely need to work on ball security and make significant improvement as passers, as I can already hear the cucks sharpening their knives for next season.

    Seems that most pundits are dismissive of Mac Jones, (not really surprising) assuming he was the product of a great team. This is not the case. The Pats lack any real game breakers offensively and the line is a total mess; makes what Mac was able to do that much more impressive. He should run away with ROY honors. Pats have their future in place, now they need to protect it.

    As time went on Mills got much more comfortable. Even if Houston’s magical sex offender is able to beat the rap, he’ll likely be on the first plane out of town. If they’re smart they’ll allow Mills to develop, but there is almost no doubt Houston will bring in at least one other QB to compete. Their focus should be on cleaning up their o line, and bringing in a good pass catching TE. It would be a huge win for us if Mills becomes the franchise QB.
     
  13. Bucky

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    I've routinely heard talking heads say Joe Burrow is better than Ryan Tannehill. It seems popular opinion says it's okay to bash Tannehill once again. Though he had some struggles he did lead Tennessee to 13 wins without one of League's best RBs.

    Burrow is the hot hand right now and did have a phenomenal season after suffering a knee injury prior season!

    But not so fast! Tannehill has 7TDs to 0TOs in last 3 Games!
     
  14. Really happy with how things are looking right now (other than having to say good bye to THE GOAT)

    Aaron Rodgers has a few more productive years left regardless of where he plays
    Josh Allen without question the most physically gifted QB in football
    Joe Burrow showing why he won a Heisman/National title/AFC title
    Justin Herbert has all the tools
    Derek Carr playing better than ever
    Matthew Stafford has always been a stud
    Ryan Tannehill was a number one seed
    Matt Ryan way up there with the all time stats

    Ah, will miss Big Ben, like Brady a first ballot Hall of Famer

    Things are looking good at the QB position. Feel like I'm forgetting somebody.
     
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  15. Carolina Speed

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    Mack Jones......and I hope Trevor Lawrence will be good when he gets a little help.
     
  16. Mack Jones, yep, he's the one I forgot, thanks! Don't know what to think of Lawrence other than he's not on par with the others, ah, yet.
     
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    Lawrence has a target on his back by the usual suspects..Really need him to either be surrounded with upgrades while at the Jags or find a location he can excel in..
     
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  18. Jerry Reb

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    White quarterbacks will always have a target on their back unless they're as good as Brady or Montana. This seems to be a new favorite tactic of anti-whites like Brutal - if the White QB isn't as good as the GOAT, he's not "good enough" to be a franchise QB. And since there can be only one GOAT but dozens of franchise QBs, dozens of White athletes who are absolutely good enough to lead their teams are going to get attacked. Lawrence and Jimmy G are the best examples of this.
     
  19. Extra Point

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    Nevada quarterback Carson Strong was signed as an UDFA by the Eagles. He was expected by many to go much higher than that. He probably fell due to concerns about his knee and the fact that he's a traditional drop back passer, which isn't fashionable at the moment.

    Here's a video about him.

     
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  20. Bucky

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    Strong falling in The Draft was definitely a storyline worth following. It seemed from everything we've dug up at CF that he was at the very last viewed as a 3rd-5th Rd pick. I guess NFL teams kept mum on his injury history. Plus, like many of The White QBs in this Draft, he was undervalued. The MSM is going all in on next year's Quotaback heavy Draft. Young and Stroud are the next Manning and Brady lol.
     
  21. Jerry Reb

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    Regardless of his injury history, Carson Strong has too much talent and too much, yes, upside to be discarded and forgotten. Hopefully at least one team gives him a fair shot in the league.
     
  22. Extra Point

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    Strong completed over 70% of his passes the last two years and has a strong arm. From what I've read, he reads defenses well and goes through progressions well.

    Strong's big issues are his mobility and his knee. From what I've seen he's mobile enough to play in the NFL. According to an article I read his knee procedure has a 75% chance of success.

    Based on these things it's absurd that he wasn't drafted, not even in the 7th round. It can only be because he's white and doesn't fit into the "new NFL."
     
  23. Jerry Reb

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    Strong is definitely a high-risk, high-reward prospect with lots of upside who's worth at the very least spending a late-round draft pick on.
     
  24. Extra Point

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    Here a former NFL scout claims that Brock Purdy will be a better NFL quarterback than Trey Lance,

     
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    Quarterback Skylar Thompson was drafted by the Dolphins in the 7th round. They may have gotten a steal. He seems to have a well rounded game. He does have only 8 5/8 inch hands, but Michael Vick played for years in the NFL with 8 1/2 inch hands.

    Every once in a while you get a quarterback who becomes a good starter in spite of being a low draft pick or a free agent. Think of Tony Romo and Kurt Warner.
    Thompson may be such a guy.

    Here's a scouting report about Thompson and a video about him. In the video the narrator starts talking about Thompson at around 3:10.

    NFL Draft Scouting Reports (fanaticalyankee.com)

     
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    Justin Herbert and Zach Wilson hit the weight room hard this offseason. Wilson is apparently up 13 pounds of muscle. Meanwhile, Mac Jones changed his diet and lost the baby fat. Trevor Lawrence looks great and I expect him to have a much better season.
     

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