Vick smuggling dope?

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  1. highschoolcoach

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    Michael Vick's defense:

    ATLANTA--Michael Vick's attorney, Billy Martin, spoke today at length about the dog-killing allegations leveled against his client and insisted that Vick ate "every single dog" that was killed on his property, dispelling the notion the dogs were killed merely for sport.

    "Michael would never just kill an animal for the sake of sport," Martin told the Atlanta Journal Constitution. "That's wrong and it's disgusting. The fact is, he ate all those dogs after he killed them. He cut them up and cooked them on his grill. They're actually quite delectable if you apply the proper seasoning. So Michael's really no different than your average hunter."

    Martin did admit that Vick's methods of killing the animals were slightly different from those used by hunters, but contended that the methods were "merely a technicality."

    "Okay, so he drowned and electrocuted them instead of shooting them," Martin said. "So what? At least they didn't suffer. It probably took only ten, fifteen minutes to finish them off, tops. And when it was all over the meat was prepared and served to friends, family, and even a local homeless shelter. Does that sound illegal to you? Yes? Yea, me too. Maybe I should try to a different argument."

    As for the fighting, Martin said that it was being painted in the wrong light. Fighting amongst animals, according to Martin, is commonplace everywhere in nature.

    "You look at those National Geographic specials and there are animals kicking the sh*t out of each other all the time," he said. "That's nature. That's survival of the fittest. Would it be wrong for a bunch of humans to bet on a fight between, say, two cheetahs? No. In fact it would be totally natural. Animals fight and humans bet. It's all part of the cycle of life. So if Michael is guilty of anything, it's being human. And possibly marijuana possession."

    Prosecutors are charging that Vick ran a dog fighting ring on his Virginia property and killed wounded dogs by electrocution, hanging, and drowning.

    Even if the dogs were eaten, law enforcement officials say, Vick would still in serious trouble.

    "Those dogs were bred solely for fighting and when they were no longer useful they were killed in a barbaric way and buried on the property," said one official who asked not to be identified. "Even if he did eat the dogs it would still be illegal. Actually if he ate them it would be even sicker. Dogs are man's best friend. I wouldn't eat my best friend, not unless we were stranded at sea or something, and even then I would wait two or three days to dig in. "

    On Monday, the NFL officially banned Vick from Falcons training camp while it reviews his case. However, animal rights groups such as PETA are demanding the NFL go a step further and permanently expel Vick from the league.

    "The NFL needs to send a message here and expel Vick permanently from the league," said Ingrid Newkirk, president of PETA. "Did you know that most serial killers start off killing animals? It's true. Ted Bundy killed several puppies as a child. John Wayne Gacy used to run over cats with his lawnmower. David Berkowitz was an avid fisherman. Vick will probably end up killing a bunch of people someday. You just wait. And when it happens, don't come crying to me - unless he harms an animal in the process."

    Copyright 2007, The Brushback - Do not reprint without permission. This article is satire and is not intended as actual news.
     
  2. white is right

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    I nearly died choking to death reading this defence. So they are going to claim Vick"the dog lover" is Hannibal Lecter and eats the dog like steak? I can only imagine what they would say if they caught Vick violating the ancient sodomy laws in GA....... [​IMG] Wow I thought this was real.... [​IMG] Edited by: white is right
     
  3. Tom Iron

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    Hello Gentlemen,
    It's interesting that people seem to have a hard time understanding that they can't separate what a man does off the field with what he does on the field. Vick has shown himself to be a jerk in many ways before this dog fighting business. It was only a matter of time until he screwed up. The only question there was what form his idiocy would take. Now we know. But I assure you, he's got it in him to do, and will do a lot worse than this before he's done. After awhile, people will say, "Michael Vick, what'd he do now?"
     
  4. White Shogun

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    Vick wasn't that great on the field, either. In Vick's case, there is little variance between his off the field behavior and his performance on it.
     
  5. white is right

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    Come on Shogun give credit where credit is due he was a better Vince Evans....[​IMG] [​IMG] Edited by: white is right
     
  6. Poacher

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    Vick pleads not guilty. Anyone surprised?

    Hoping for the O.J. jury no doubt.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    There was an article in one of the sports pages here today about how "everyone" (meaning all the blacks) back in Vick's hometown still supports him. Where the trial's held and the kind of people in the jury pool will play a big role for sure. Blacks often acquit their own no matter how overwhelming the evidence of guilt.
     
  8. White Shogun

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    Yeah, it's not surprising he plead not guilty. People with fame or fortune on their side rarely do. They pay lawyers a lot of money to get them off, not throw them under the bus. Vicki is counting on a weak case and sympathetic jurors (black or white) to get him off.

    I heard on the radio today that Emmit Smith has made a public statement about the case. Smith says that the federal government is only going after Vick to get him to roll over on the guys who REALLY did it. That's how the feds work, Smith said. They target the famous people because they think they can get them to talk easier than people with nothing to lose.

    Right. Why go after guys who can barely afford a lawyer? Let's target the guy with gazillions of dollars, who can buy an army of attorneys, and is hugely popular in the community.

    Right.

    Trust me. The feds would not have indicted Vick if there wasn't ample evidence he is involved. It's an 18-page indictment. Nor would they have jumped the gun on the local DA if there was any doubt as to what had occurred. There is no political motivation for them to do so, either, unlike in some other cases, e.g. the Border Patrol agents in El Paso.
     
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    Black solidarity in high profile cases like this are legendary. A black football player interviewed by a sports show host, said that there is a huge double standard among the Vick bashers. He claimed they were hypocrites. How so, you might ask? Well, many of his critics are hunters (white) who don't have any problems with killing animals.I only caught a portion of the show, but I think by context, he also specifically mentioned deer hunting. Did anyone hear it? I believe it was Joe Horn on the afternoon ESPn show.
     
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    The insulting "it's no worse than hunting" moral equivalency is being made by more and more Vick Kool Aiders.

    PETA doesn't hunt and they (surprisingly) are all over Vick.

    Also, hunting is perfectly legal. Dogfighting was outlawed in all 50 states by 1976. It was outlawed because lawmakers, as well as most ordinary citizens, recognized that the activity was morally repugnant and should not be condoned in a civilised country. Furthermore, it can easily be argued that dogfighting is not simply "killing animals" but rather torturing them.

    It looks like this is going to be an ugly, drawn out, racially charged event. I don't know if I can stand it to be honest. Count on this being turned into a moral referendum on white America somehow with traditionally white activities being used as proxies for race during the TV interviews. Sharpen your logic skills gents the time is nigh.

    Since St. Vick has pleaded not guilty I assume he will also be volunteering to take a polygraph in the near future. And I'm quite sure he'll be taking the stand in his own defense to absolve himself of these terrible lies. Right? Edited by: Poacher
     
  11. white is right

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    If Emmitt Smith insists on saying Vick is a minor player in this drama, this will sully his image. After all the evidence is presented by the state Vick will look like a drug kingpin sitting on the top of a pyramid of crime. Picture Pablo Escobar of dog fighting. I wonder why Michael Irving hasn't chimed in on this topic... [​IMG] Edited by: white is right
     
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    I am pleasantly surprised that PETA is actually opposing a high-profile black in public. Regardless of how one feels about them, at least they appear to believe in equal opportunity. We certainly can't say the same thing for any of the feminist groups. I guess it's good that Vick didn't abuse and torture white women, or we'd probably not be hearing so much about this story on television, and there obviously wouldn't be any pressure groups waving signs and protesting. That says a lot about the present state of our pathetic society.

    I saw some of the press conference with Vick's new high- profile attorney, Billy Martin. Martin is, much like Johnnie Cochran, a clear affirmative action figure, but the press lavishes non-stop praise on him and always refers to his high standing and allegedly great legal skills. Much as it did with Cochrane in the O.J. case, those "legal skills" will probably make themselves apparent in some ridiculous, childish display like the "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit" that Cochrane used to dazzle the rocket scientists on the O.J. jury. Martin is black, and he made a point of introducing his staff of attorneys, who are all black. There will undoubtedly be blacks on the jury. The prosecution will be inept, as it always is when celebrities are on trial. The judge will be the typical pompous, inconsistent type we invariably see in our injustice system. In other words, Vick will never be convicted in a court of law. Not in Don King's America. Martin and his all black team of associates will unquestionably play the race card, just as Cochrane did. You cannot have more concrete evidence against a suspect than the authorities had against O.J. DNA doesn't matter to black jurists, once the race card has been played. The evidence against Vick would appear overwhelming, but it's unlikely that it can be more impressive than the evidence against O.J. Thank goodness for the courage of the folks at PETA, or else Vick would probably not miss a single game for the Falcons. Remember Kobe Bryant? If he'd only raped a dog, instead of merely a white girl, then PETA would have pressured the NBA into at least suspending him, and the Lakers would probably have released him, just as the Falcons appear to be washing their hands of Vick. Let's hope that PETA keeps up the pressure, so that no other NFL team will dare touch Mike/Michael, even after he is acquitted by our injustice system.
     
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    Dogfighting amongst the black sub-culture was about to break thru the white liberal's containment zone and spill out into society's general awareness. Being in the Chicago area if you watch the local channels the police run adds against dogfighting and while I'm sure plenty of low rent whites participate its basic common knowledge that blacks dominate this as thoroughly as they do the NBA. So the PTB nip this in the bud before their white genteel half is confronted with the awful spectacle reminiscent of of early 20th century depictions of blacks as savages. The PTB might be too late though.
     
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    again yesterday there was an article on yahoo about Vick. of course stating how whites are against him and blacks are supporting him. this article was writting by Dan Wetzel from yahoo. anyone know anything about this clown?
     
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    I didn't read the article by Wetzel but it's been pointed out here before that Len Pasquarelli has said pretty much the same thing. I don't think it's bias to point such things out in an article, as I believe it is likely to be true.
     
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    whiteshogun, be it true or not, its the same situation trying to point at whites being racist. i would like to see one article about black racism on whites.
     
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    I see your point.
     
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    The one difference I see in this case and O.J. is that it is a federal case. The fed's don't usually indict until they have an almost airtight case and supposedly this type of Animal case has a 98% conviction rate. Having been around the federal court system for most of my life, I can honestly say that those federal prosecutors usually have their act's together, unlike many at the state level. Their I's are dotted and their T's are crossed and they usually have an extensive paper trail that leads back to the indictee. There won't be any incompetent's like Mark Fuhrman that the defense can exploit and make it look an evil white man setting up a poor black man, or no botched investigation at the hands of the LAPD. I think if this goes to trial, and it seems like it will since Vick has pleaded not guilty, that he will most assuredly do some time over this.Edited by: Bear Backer
     
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    Good post Bear backer. I hadn't thought of those angles before
     
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    How can Emmitt Smith say Michael Vick isn't the real purpetrator in this case when there were sixteen dog carcases buried on his own property.[​IMG]

    I'm also surprised that any sports annalist hasn't defended Vick by saying that dogs aren't mans best friend in every culture. In China b/c of overpopulation and little room for livestock farming, stray dogs are often captured slaughtered and cooked up for some good protein.

    I'm sure we'll also hear the Bull fighting comparison as well, although the Bull is killed fast with the sword when he loses and it has been a tradition in Spain for generations. The real case in point was how many of these dogs were tortured, hung or electrocuted that didn't perform.
     
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    I just did a Google search and found that the NAACP and others are lining up behind Vick. The Vick affair is shaping up much like the O.J. Simpson circus. We will soon see the hand-wringing in the System media over the Racial Divide which white people "need to understand."
     
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    The NAACP had better tread lightly or they will be back to the days of the early 90s when they snuggled up to the Nation of Islam and dried up the contributions from the wealthy Jews. The NAACP as well as PETA exist to make marginal people politically useful, not to engage in fratricidal warfare against other lefty groups. I bet there are some big time money people wanting the NAACP to toss Vick overboard and who want the PETA children back to protesting against white men who hunt and raise livestock.
     
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    To be honest the origins of dog fighting go back to the English gentry that ran this country during colonial times. Now in the modern era street thugs have taken over the "sport" as people of certain social status won't be seen near one of these fights.
     
  24. Tom Iron

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    Gentlemen,

    It's my view that this Vick thing can become a real win win situation for us. Of course, the jerk doesn't want to go to jail, so he of course chose a jury trial. If he can get enough black jurors on the jury, he's sure to walk. Why is this good you may ask? Because then, many fence sitting White people who refused to see the black racism when the OJ "verdict," came down. They will now see exactly what we mean when we say there's a double standard in this country.

    It's too bad that it takes an act of animal crualty to make many White people aware of just how prejudiced blacks are against this country and White people in general.

    So, while I'd li8ke to see this bum, vick get fined big time and do time, I think I'd like to see him walk more, if White people were to wake up because of it.

    Then there's the point that it looks like whatever happens, he's finished for most if not all of this year. Another win for White people.

    Tom Iron...
     
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    A Pittsburgh sports reporter was forced to issue an apology after stating on a weekly TV sports show: "It's really a sad day in this country when somehow ... Michael Vick would have been better off raping a woman if you look at the outcry of what happened. Had he done that, he probably would have been suspended for four games and he'd be back on the field. But because this has become a political issue, all of a sudden the commissioner has lost his stomach for it."


    There's a lot of truth in that statement given theendless paradeof black affletes arrested for beating and raping women, then usually given a slap on the wrist if any punishment at all and the drunk white fans quickly forgetting it ever occurred. However the reporter in this instance probably didn't mean it quite that way, given that he's part-black. [​IMG]
    <H2>Apologies issued for PG reporter's remarks</H2>
    Tuesday, July 31, 2007


    By Bob Smizik, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



    The Post-Gazette, KDKA-TV and Post-Gazette reporter Paul Zeise have apologized for remarks Zeise made on "Sports Showdown" Sunday night.


    "We apologize for the insensitive and offensive remarks made on Sunday's "Sports Showdown," the Post-Gazette said in a statement issued yesterday. "Paul Zeise's comments do not represent the view of the Post-Gazette."


    Zeise, who covers Pitt football and college basketball for the Post-Gazette, said, "I regret the poor choice of analogies I used to characterize a professional athlete's legal situation."


    KDKA also apologized on its 6 p.m. and 11 p.m. newscasts yesterday.


    The "Sports Showdown," which runs for 30 minutes beginning at 11:35 p.m., is a weekly discussion show with three or four members of the local media with KDKA sports anchor Bob Pompeani as the host. Panelists Sunday were Zeise; Paul Alexander, an anchor-reporter for FSN Pittsburgh; and Ellis Cannon, a talk-show host on WPGB-FM.


    The subject for discussion was Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, who has been indicted by the federal government on dogfighting charges.


    In introducing the topic, Pompeani said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is "probably going to suspend [Vick] for the rest of the season, the whole year. Is he right to do that given the fact this guy has not been convicted of anything?" Alexander answered: "Absolutely. When you're indicted by the federal government, you're going down. Since 1987 they have a 92 percent conviction rate."


    Zeise took an opposing view. "It's really a sad day in this country when somehow ... Michael Vick would have been better off raping a woman if you look at the outcry of what happened. Had he done that, he probably would have been suspended for four games and he'd be back on the field. But because this has become a political issue, all of a sudden the commissioner has lost his stomach for it."


    KDKA general manager Chris Pike said, "We apologize for the inappropriate and insensitive comments that do not reflect the view of KDKA management and staff."


    Pike said Zeise, who was among a group of eight to 10 rotating panelists, will not be invited back on the show.


    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07212/805689-139.stm
     

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