UEFA U21 Championship

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  1. frederic38

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    white or not, that's way too many mexicans
    it's a disgrace
    is it too complicated to have 1 team for americans and another one for mexicans?
     
  2. scroat

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    Agreed. They would never allow that. It would negate the talking point that "we're all americans" and this is a "great melting pot" etc etc
     
  3. Jack Lambert

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    That's true. And I won't be counting Gill as white anymore.

    Looking at Mexico's team, they almost seem to have more Euro looking whites than the United States.

    England is starting 10 whites today in the U-20 WC vs. Iraq! :D Why can't their Senior Team do this?
     
  4. Europe

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    England blew a 2-0 lead and tied 2-2, The black center back was beaten on one long pass that ended as a penalty kick and Irag got a goal with a minute left. It looked like England was just playing defense the last 20 minutes and that doesn't work a lot of the time.

    Irag had 6 senior players on their team.
     
  5. frederic38

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    was the defender jamaal?
    i always dreamed about seeing a black defender named jamaal, and i saw that they have one on their roster
    if only he could come to the french league :angel:
     
  6. Europe

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    France got lucky to get their goal because the were given a penalty that actually happened outside the box. Mexico, I mean American, missed a penalty and the game finished 1-1.


    France is horrendous looking. It seems there are few mixed race players in France, unlike England who has many , which makes their team much less black looking. Players like Lescott, Walcott and Johnson look white from a distance on tv.

    Kudos to the French women.
     
  7. frederic38

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    france will have to get a good result against spain to qualify for the next round (spain are already qualified)
    the black hype paul pogba will miss the match because he will be suspended for typical black behaviour
    he has been very average in this tournament, nothing special except his dumb attitude
    it's easier to "shine" in juventus' midlfield surrounded by white team mates than in the french national teams with a lot of players that are similar to him
     
  8. Jack Lambert

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    Well, England started 11(!) whites today against Chile, and drew 1-1. They finished with 10 whites. England needs to have a win against Egypt to qualify for the next round. I hope England can qualify for the next round, and they are now my team of choice in the U20 WC. Go England!!
     
  9. Europe

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    England might go through with a tie because 4 3rd place teams go through.

    11 whites,awesome.

    I tried to find it on ESPNU, but I don't think they showed it.
     
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    USA Mestizos got trashed today by Ghana. You guys will love this.

    I was looking closer at the U.S. roster and was wondering what kind of background the mulatto DeAndre Yedlin has. His wiki says he was raised by his grandparent (surprise surprise, his black parent abandoned him) "IRA Yedlin". That immediately threw up red flag. I did a little digging and found out Yedlin is a very common Jewish surname.

    I always kind of chuckled and shook my head when I would read "Team JewSA" and the the conspiracy theory stuff by some of the posters here....but I think you guys might actually be onto something.

    So not only was this team mostly short, brown mestizos....the U.S. team also had a half-black Jew. The Marxist crowd must be loving this. Winning doesn't matter. As long as the U.S. looks like a cultural marxist wet dream....that's the most important thing! :icon_mrgreen: Gulati and Garber must be jerking themselves off at the diversity today.


    Handsome young man :undecided:

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  11. frederic38

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    france beat ghana in semifinal of the world youth tournament
    the 2 goals of the game were scored by the white forward thauvin
    thauvin was named best young player of the french league last year, an interesting young player
    the rest of the tournament is garbage (the ghana players, and the french black players), and like every time most of the players in those youth tournaments won't do anything because they are just in the team most of the time because they are physically more mature than the others
    we're still waiting for the african countries to replicate their semi-successfull youth tournaments in the real competitions :icon_rolleyes:
     
  12. Xman

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    The mostly black France team beat nearly all-white Uruguay. Hopefully, this is a sign of French soccer resurgence. Could France have done even better if there were more whites on the team? All the black French penalty kickers were successful, while there were two misses by the Uruguayans. Actually the Filipino-French goalkeeper made a couple of great saves, and was outstanding throughout the tournament. I am surprised that no one has commented on that. Are blacks just better on average at taking penalty kicks? For example, Mario Balotelli has never missed a penalty kick at professional level.
     
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  13. frederic38

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    actually i already said like 1 year ago that i believed that africans had an advantage over whites at penalty kicks
    i'm going to say it again
    a penalty kick involves almost no skill, it's not a difficult thing to do at all, virtually every professional player has the same odds of scoring a penalty
    but when the penalty gets crucial, that's when more players miss their shot
    they miss it because they overthink usually
    so you need either experienced players who will be able to overcome the pressure, or careless players (usually young players) who don't realise the importance of their penalty and who won't overthink
    blacks typically are careless
    in french we always used the term "insouciant" about blacks in soccer, it could be translated as careless, or naive

    as for a mostly black team winning a youth tournament, maybe you didn't read the previous posts in this thread about physical development, it's not really a surprise
    and you would have to be very guilliable to think that it is a sign a french soccer resurgence
    it's not the first time france wins similar competition
    france has won a similar competition years ago, everyone was talking about that generation
    they won the U17 world cup (the competition that nigeria have won the most :grin: maybe it's a sign of nigerian soccer resurgence also :grin: )
    the best players on their roster were anthony le tallec and sinama pongolle, one black and one white
    both signed with liverpool
    both were huge flops and le tallec is now an OK ligue 1/ligue 2 player, and sinama pongolle was refused by a rumanian club a few years ago, he plays once in a while in a club in eastern europe now
    hopefully thauvin, who has been the best player of the team and is white (he was also named best young player of the french league this year), will have a brighter future, but he already shows the symptoms of what we call the "generation 87", another talented youth team, but that brought more problems to the french national teams than good results

    [video=youtube_share;59_nXqOD6kM]http://youtu.be/59_nXqOD6kM[/video]

    http://youtu.be/O564qRv1Gk4

    that generation beat piqué and fabregas' spain at the 2004 U17 european champs, and have been a huge disapointment after that (the most successfull players were the arabs and the whites: ménez, benzema, nasri, ben arfa, but they all brought problems in the team, and the blacks were all flops)
     
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  14. frederic38

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    the 2006 final:

    [video=youtube_share;3B0TCrZo9I0]http://youtu.be/3B0TCrZo9I0[/video]

    italy had very good experieced penalty kickers, but france's black clowns were surprisingly good at penalty kicks, against another team they might have won the competition
    the only french player who missed was trezeguet, the best striker we had
    this while abidal, who has scored maybe 1 or 2 goals in his very long career, which is pathetic for a fullback, scored his penalty kick
    sagnol (white) scored too and he's not the one you would immediatly think of to take a penalty, but since a penalty involves no skill it doesn't matter
     
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    oh my god, i just saw pogba's penalty:

    [video=youtube_share;LF19CVOrTtg]http://youtu.be/LF19CVOrTtg[/video]

    what an arrogant *******
    i hope he'll never be called again in the french national team (for his second and last game to date, he got an incredibly dumb red card against spain in a decisive match)
    replace him with another black security guard, we have tons of them: matuidi, guilavogi, sissoko, diarra, mavuba, etienne caprout, i don't care, maybe even teddy rinner, or even a random black guy who works as a bouncer in a club, i don't care, anybody but that prick
     
  16. Xman

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    I disagree that a penalty kick involves no skill. You have to ensure that the ball is kicked in the right area -- away from the goalkeeper's reach, but not wide or over the goal. You also have to deceive the goalkeeper as to your intentions. In addition, one has to be able to be calm under pressure. If all professional soccer players, according to what you have stated, have the same odds of scoring a penalty, why has a player like Mario Balotelli has never missed? Surely, there has to be more than an element of luck going on there. And you don't score penalties by being insouciant or careless; you must concentrate and focus on the task at hand.

    One last thing -- Spain had been perennial underachievers until the last several years. So you could say that they are making up for past failures. Brazil exposed them in the recent Confederations Cup. Even the USA beat them in that tournament four years ago. Spain's possessing for possessing sake style of soccer doesn't result in more goals being scored by them or fewer goals being scored against them. I find Brazil's, Germany's and even France's more open and attacking styles far more exciting than ticky tacky.
     
  17. frederic38

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    penalties are not only luck (luck is a part of it though) but as i said it is a 100% mental thing
    every professional player will be able to put the ball where he wants from that distance with the ball not in movement, in training conditions, and there is no need to even pay attention to the goalkeeper (that's the best way to miss your penalty) because if you take your penalty well enough he won't be able to do anything 99% of the time
    that's the theory
    then when the penalty gets important you'll think "i have to take it perfectly, i have to put it here, i'm going to make my team win that match, oh wait, and what happens if i miss it? i'm going to take it more safely ect" instead of just shooting without thinking about it
    and that's how you miss it
    balotelli never missed because he was lucky enough until now (one day he'll be unlucky and he'll miss one, or 2, or more, afterall it's still very early in his career) and because he doesn't overthink
    you can score penalties without focusing on it

    the confederations cup was a friendly match, the brazilian players were playing as if it was the world cup, and the spanish players didn't want it as much as them
    these kind of useless competition are never taken seriously by european teams, while the teams from other continents take it more seriously
    for me, spain's defense has been exposed long time ago
    and i don't like how they play without striker
    but they are still winning because, in my opinion, the other teams are garbage
    that brazilian team was garbage
    if they come to the world cup with a team like this spain will beat them


    spain's possession for possession allowed them to win 2 euro champs and 1 world cup in a row, something that has never been done by any team in history, so even though i don't really like the style, the amount of goals you score doesn't really matter when you have these results
     
  18. Jack Lambert

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    I was going to start a new thread, but since the tourney is almost over, I just went and found the old one to bump up. The U-21 Euros are at the semifinal stage right now. Germany vs. Portugal is on right now. Germany is the whitest team left in the tournament, starting 10 Whites and 1 Turk. Portugal starts something like 4-5 blacks. Sweden starts 2 blacks, and Denmark starts 1 black guy.

    I noticed at the start of the match, that the only guy for Germany who wasn't singing the anthem was of course, their lone Turk Emre Can.
     
  19. Matra2

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    When I turned it on Portugal were leading 2-0. I went out and came back and suddenly it was 5-0.:shocked:
     

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