Trevin Wiens - Meade High (KS)

Jimmy Chitwood

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Please consider this scenario, and answer what collegiate program you think would land the services of the below athlete after the collegiate recruiting process finishes up. While pondering the below performances, recognize that the athlete in question measures in at 6-feet, approximately 185 pounds.

1) A multi-sport high school athlete plays tailback/defensive back for his school’s football team and averages over 10 yards-per-carry for his career, while running for 1,654 yards (10.7 avg), 34 total touchdowns, and a State Championship as a senior after running for 1,550 yards (11.2 avg) and 29 total touchdowns as a junior.

2) Said athlete is a starting guard on the basketball team and helps lead his team to a combined record over his junior and senior seasons of 49-2 en route to back-to-back State Tourney Runner-up finishes.

3) Said athlete is one of the top sprinters in the state, winning 3 State Titles as a senior: 100-meters (10.73w), 200-meters (22.42 into a -2.4 headwind), and the 400-meters (49.67).

What collegiate program would end up with the services of such a talented and versatile athlete?

[See answer below.]


If your answer was, “He’d sign to play football for Garden City Community College,â€￾ then you understand the Caste System. Because, you see, Trevin Wiens is a White kid, which means none of that other stuff matters to a collegiate "talent" scout.

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Please consider this scenario, and answer what collegiate program you think would land the services of the below athlete after the collegiate recruiting process finishes up. While pondering the below performances, recognize that the athlete in question measures in at 6-feet, approximately 185 pounds.

1) A multi-sport high school athlete plays tailback/defensive back for his school’s football team and averages over 10 yards-per-carry for his career, while running for 1,654 yards (10.7 avg), 34 total touchdowns, and a State Championship as a senior after running for 1,550 yards (11.2 avg) and 29 total touchdowns as a junior.

2) Said athlete is a starting guard on the basketball team and helps lead his team to a combined record over his junior and senior seasons of 49-2 en route to back-to-back State Tourney Runner-up finishes.

3) Said athlete is one of the top sprinters in the state, winning 3 State Titles as a senior: 100-meters (10.73w), 200-meters (22.42 into a -2.4 headwind), and the 400-meters (49.67).

What collegiate program would end up with the services of such a talented and versatile athlete?

[See answer below.]


If your answer was, “He’d sign to play football for Garden City Community College,â€￾ then you understand the Caste System. Because, you see, Trevin Wiens is a White kid, which means none of that other stuff matters to a collegiate "talent" scout.

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Yes JC, and if you look him up on his NCSA or National Collegiate Scouting Association page, in which his parents had to pay anywhere from $1250.00 to $2500.00, it seems they were unable to help him also.
 

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Another, often overlooked, aspect of the caste system is the purposeful denigration of smaller-class high school talent. Meade, for instance, is in Class 2A, the smallest 11-man classification in the state.

Generally, the smaller classifications in any state are close to 100% white, as whites have fled cities. And since for 99% of the high school population, you don’t choose your school, or are “recruitedâ€, you just go to the local school. Who’s to say that if this player, Trevin Wiens, played for Hutchinson, that he wouldn’t be just as good there? But to the “scoutsâ€, “recruiters†and DWF’s, small-school players “aren’t any goodâ€. Why not? The mindset is linear with college football classifying. A small school player “must not have been good enough†to play for a bigger school! That’s how these “know it all†scouts and recruiters think!! My argument is that, what, if Barry Sanders toiled for a smaller rural school, he would have sucked, right?

It’s just another tool in the caste system woodshed to diminish the white athlete, and to effectively eliminate 80% of the high school talent in the country.
 

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Another, often overlooked, aspect of the caste system is the purposeful denigration of smaller-class high school talent. Meade, for instance, is in Class 2A, the smallest 11-man classification in the state.

Generally, the smaller classifications in any state are close to 100% white, as whites have fled cities. And since for 99% of the high school population, you don’t choose your school, or are “recruitedâ€, you just go to the local school. Who’s to say that if this player, Trevin Wiens, played for Hutchinson, that he wouldn’t be just as good there? But to the “scoutsâ€, “recruiters†and DWF’s, small-school players “aren’t any goodâ€. Why not? The mindset is linear with college football classifying. A small school player “must not have been good enough†to play for a bigger school! That’s how these “know it all†scouts and recruiters think!! My argument is that, what, if Barry Sanders toiled for a smaller rural school, he would have sucked, right?

It’s just another tool in the caste system woodshed to diminish the white athlete, and to effectively eliminate 80% of the high school talent in the country.

Trevin would do just as good if not better using the caste system against them. If he's at a small school, not as many good OL. The so-called bigger better schools must have bigger better OL for Trevin to run behind. It's all bull$#!^^ of course!

Good points FootballDad, but not always the case here in N.C. There are alot of big schools here, but in rural counties, (where whites have fled to here), there might be only 1 or 2 highschools and they are predominately white (1,400 students and above). Also, you can be from a small school here and be black and get a D-1 scholarship, but as you pointed out, if you're white and from a small school you can forget about it.

Also, I've noticed classifications are different by state. Trevin's school is 2A with 140 students! 2A in North Carolina would be 700 to 999 students approx. There's no such thing as a high school in N.C. public eduation with 140 students, I don't think?

1A generally-300-699
2A 700-999
3A 1,000-1399
4A 1,400- unlimited
 

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The theory that I espouse above is especially true in states that have a more spread-out demographic, such as Kansas. Texas is another good example. Although there are about an even amount of larger-classification schools in Texas with black or white majorities, virtually everything from class 4A on down is 100% white, with some Hispanics thrown in. Some of these schools are powers that can take on any school in the nation, but since they are "small", they get little attention from scouts because of they are just "cracker barrels".
 
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