No Return in Sight for Lesnar

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  1. Bear Backer

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    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-No-Return-in-Sight-for-Ill-Lesnar-20949

    According to Sherdog, Brock Lesnar is in really bad shape with Mono and an undisclosed serious illness. Supposedly Dana White said that there there is no immediate return expected and that an interim Heavyweight Championship bout may need to take place at some point.

    If you also believe the slimy tribesman Dave Meltzer who has been a recent parasite into the world of MMA news after making his name as a hack writing professional wrestling rumors, Brock Lesnar's career may be in jeopardy. According to Meltzer, Dana White stated that he will not publicly reveal what illness Lesnar has, but it is not cancer or AIDS, but it is very serious.
     
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    That's bad news for Brock, his family, the UFC & MMA fans. I hope he recovers soon. He's the UFC most bankable star/top draw & is a monster in the HW division. I wonder how long Dana will give him to heal...before having an interim title match-up (maybe Carwin vs. the Nog/Velasquez fight)?
     
  3. celticdb15

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    I heard he has an intestinal disorder..
     
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    Chron's maybe? If that is the case, his career may very well be in jeopardy. Chron's is treatable but not curable and sufferers often have a very hard time keeping hydrated or maintaining weight. With Lesnars frame, I couldn't see him being able to fight at anything but Heavyweight. He would be skin and bones as a light heavy.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. He might emerge from hospital looking like an NBA power forward. Also fighting sports are hard on your neural system something like this could cause his chin to go. He might end up being MMA's myth, similar to James Dean, Bruce Lee and Tony Congilirao all what could have been.
     
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    http://wcco.com/local/brock.lesnar.ill.2.1316457.html

    Looks like Lesnar might have a severe case of Diverticulitis that will require surgery. Well, if that is the case, it is better than Chron's or Colon Cancer. A proper diet that avoids foods that set off irritation should prevent most re-occurring episodes. My mother has lived with Diverticulitis for about 20 years and doesn't really have anything but the occasional minor cramp if she avoids foods that bother her.
     
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    Man, life is scary. How do people get these illnesses?Edited by: Deadlift
     
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    I had a good buddy that had a mild case of Diverticulitis. He was able to recover pretty quickly & only had some minor dietary adjustments, etc. I hope Brock can heal quickly & this doesn't end his career.
     
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    CDB15, Stephen Neal is a helluva athlete in his own right. NCAA D1 wrestling champ, now starting OG for the Superbowl contending Patriots!

    Fellow UFC HW monster Shane Carwin shows some support (& class) for Brock.

    Carwin Supports Lesnar, Says He Should Keep the Title

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    Neal is definitely whatI would look for in an o-linemen. He has great quickness, good size and strength.i would be drooling over this guy if I were ever his coach, no wonder Tom Brady and the Pats have been successful they do not employ sumos.
     
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    brock is an alpha male, he should be able to recover and fight again.
     
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    Brock had minor surgery last month & Dana White has just said he may need another (major) surgery. The jury's still out on if/when Brock returns.

    Lesnar Could Need More Surgery

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    Carwin going on a year since his last fight. They should give him a tune-up at least. Maybe a fight vs. Mir and winner gets Brock or the winner of Nog-Velasquez.
     
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    I like that scenario LL. Mir will be more c0cky than ever having sub'd "afflete" Kongo (albeit Kongo very overrated). Mir would try to stand against big Shane & end up eating one of those big 5X fists! I'd be pulling for Shane vs. Nog (in that scenario) & Shane to face Brock (if/when he comes back).
     
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    It appears Mir will face Carwin at UFC 111 (3/27/10) for the Interim HW title. GSP vs. Hardy is also slated for the card.

    UFC 111 (tentative)

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    Fyi, here's some recent pix of Brock. He doesn't appear too bad (drawn out, etc.)...

    New Brock Pix...



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    I read that he's fighting next July. He should keep the beard. It makes him look more like a badass.
     
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    Brock's return depend on Dr's evaluation this week. According to Dana "Anti" White, if things are positive, Brock could return in a few months. However, if there's negative direcion...Brock may have to retire or take a few years off.[​IMG]

    Lesnar's Return Depends on Health Evaluation This Week

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    Looks like Brock might be back as soon as mid summer to face the ("interim" champ) winner of the Mir vs. Carwin fight (at UFC 111 in March).

    ***Video Interview with Lesnar & Dana White


    Humbled Lesnar returns to UFC spotlight


    By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports 8 hours, 12 minutes ago

    As recently as early January, Brock Lesnar was convinced he needed surgery to deal with a case of diverticulitis â€" a condition that essentially left a hole in his intestine and put his career as Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight title holder in jeopardy. He might be out a year. Or it might be two. Or it might be forever.

    Instead, a series of doctor's visits and tests have revealed what both Lesnar and UFC president Dana White described as a "miracle."Â The big guy is healed and ready to return to the Octagon this summer, probably against the winner of the fight between Frank Mir and Shane Carwin in March.

    "Let's be clear, I'm still the heavyweight champion,"Â Lesnar growled, in trademark fashion, on ESPN on Wednesday morning.

    Brock Lesnar is grateful for his supporters and focused on his return.

    There couldn't be better news for the UFC and fans of mixed martial arts. Lesnar isn't just apparently well again (although really, who knows if there could be a setback or another episode), but his return to fighting brings back the sports' biggest box office star.

    Lesnar, 32, is a polarizing figure â€" or was until he got sick. You either loved his in-your-face ways or wanted someone to punch him in his face because of it. You were either one of the new fans that Lesnar drew in, perhaps from his days as a professional wrestler, or you resented them.

    Either way, Lesnar was difficult to shift your eyes away from. A huge man who needs to cut weight to make the 265-pound limit, he was growing as a fighter and an intimidator during his brief career. His fights were thrilling and he headlined the hugely successful UFC 100, which did a reported 1.6 million pay per view buys.

    His postfight tirade after his dominating victory over Mir at UFC 100, complete with flipping off the crowd and cussing out UFC sponsors, made him a tour de force. It didn't mesh with his private life as a blue-collar, down home guy from South Dakota and Minnesota, yet Lesnar had learned how to sell fights during his days in the WWE.

    The truth was, he just wanted to hang out in the woods with his family and emerge a couple times a year to beat the heck out of someone. And now, it seems, he can again.

    "The doctors were dumbfounded,"Â Lesnar said. "They couldn't find any signs of trouble."Â

    This was a long way from the fall, when illness and weakness caused Lesnar to sit out almost three weeks of training camp as he prepared to fight Carwin in a bout scheduled for November in Las Vegas. When I visited his training camp in October, he complained of being "dead in the ass."Â Within weeks he couldn't work out at all and when doctors couldn't figure out the medical issue, Lesnar dropped out of the fight.

    In an effort to fight depression, he went hunting in Canada where he had a painful diverticulitis attack.

    "I felt like I got shot in the gut,"Â he said.

    He wasn't excited about his Canadian medical care, comparing it to "a third world country"Â where he couldn't get any treatment. Finally Lesnar's wife, Rena (better known as former pro wrestling star Sable), sprung him from the hospital, loaded him into a car and while Lesnar writhed in pain, drove "100 miles an hour"Â across the border and into North Dakota. He wound up MedCenter One, a hospital in Bismarck, N.D. There doctors were patient, didn't immediately perform surgery and slowly nursed him back to some form of health.

    "My wife saved my life,"Â he said.

    Still, when he returned to the farm he owns outside Alexandria, Minn. he was down 40 pounds and facing an uncertain future. He got a second opinion at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. and heard the same thing â€" surgery. He changed his diet. He said he put his mind to healing. Dana White claimed Lesnar tried some holistic healing procedures. He began light workouts and focused on regaining some of his weight.

    By the time Lesnar visited a doctor on January 5, he not only felt better, medical tests couldn't find a problem. He kept returning for more and more tests. "Four of five different opinions,"Â Lesnar said, including one on Tuesday.

    And now he's focused on the future â€" returning to a sport where he found the peace of mind and quality of life that he'd been seeking since bailing on a multi-million dollar contract with the WWE.

    "The doctor said, ‘You've got a lottery ticket,' " White said on ESPN.

    Lesnar appeared fully aware of his good fortune. There is simply no way to know how long it will last or whether he is truly "healed."Â A man built on bullying others inside the Octagon wore a look of fear as he described his recent medical journey and humility at his prognosis.

    "I've got a different take on life," Lesnar said. "When you have everything taken away, when you lay helplessly on a hospital bed "¦ I've always been in control. For me to sit there for 30 days and not have control of anything "¦ "

    He went on to thank his wife, with whom he recently had a son. And his doctors. And the UFC. And anyone who thought of him while he was sick.

    The powerhouse of a man who fans learned to hate because of his gruff ways at least sounded like a new guy.

    Stands to reason, he'll be just as wicked inside that Octagon though.

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    Brock Lesnar's Fight for His Life

    Wednesday, January 20, 2010
    by Loretta Hunt (lhunt@sherdog.com)

    UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar said his road to wellness included multiple misdiagnoses, substandard medical care and a frantic car ride across the Canadian border.

    Lesnar, who has battled through a painful intestinal infection called diverticulosis for the last few months, related his story during a Wednesday conference call.

    "I didn't know what was going on at first,"Â Lesnar said. "I was very sick. I've been suffering almost a year with something I didn't know what it was. I had some stomach pains here and there and some flu-like symptoms throughout the year. Actually, during the training camp for Shane Carwin is when everything just kind of snowballed. That's when I realized I was missing full weeks of my training camp because I just couldn't perform. That's when I decided four weeks out to give these guys (the UFC) hopefully enough notice."Â

    Lesnar said the last thing he wanted to do was give a "bad performance"Â or "risk losing my title,"Â so he withdrew from a Nov. 21 contest against Carwin at UFC 106. The promotion tentatively rescheduled the bout for UFC 108 on Jan. 2 in Las Vegas, while the 32-year-old fighter kept returning to the doctor to pinpoint what was wrong with him.

    Lesnar said physicians gave a couple of potential diagnoses, including mononucleosis and the H1N1 virus. Lesnar acknowledged that he refused to get a CT scan, which might have allowed doctors to diagnose him properly at the time.

    "In my mind, I either had the flu or mono, and so I had to pull the pin and decided to take a little vacation and get away from the chaos and head up to Canada and do some hunting,"Â Lesnar said.

    In Canada, Lesnar said he woke up one night in "shock"Â and in a cold sweat.

    "I mean it was big time," he said. "(I) didn't know where I was and realized I had to seek medical help. "¦ I'm out in the boondocks. It was about two and a half, three hours from what I thought would be a good medical facility."Â

    Lesnar said he soon became concerned with the care he was receiving.

    "Probably the lowest moment was getting care from Canada," he said. "I hate to bash them, but "¦ not to get on the political side of things, but our healthcare system is a little radical, but listen, we've got the best doctors in the world here. Our system does need some restructuring, but I don't believe a total reform is the answer.

    "They couldn't do nothing for me,"Â Lesnar continued. "It was like I was in a third-world country. I just looked at my wife and she saved my life and I had to get out of here. I'm just stating the facts here, and that's the facts. I love Canada. I own property in Canada, but if I had to choose between getting care in Canada or the United States, I'd definitely want to be in the United States."Â

    Lesnar wouldn't reveal the name of the Canadian medical center where he received his initial care, but he said that machinery at the facility wasn't working when the staff needed it.

    "I wasn't at the right facility, and it makes sense for me to say that,"Â Lesnar explained. "I knew that I had to get out of there. My wife saved my life. She got me out of there and drove a hundred miles an hour to get me to Bismarck, North Dakota, to Medcenter One, got me with Dr. Berger and his staff at Medcenter One, and that doctor there saved my career and my life."Â

    During the 100-mile-an-hour car ride with his wife at the wheel, Lesnar said he was in "excruciating"Â pain.

    "That's when I made the phone call to Dana, cursing him out and telling him to send the jet for me,"Â Lesnar laughed.

    UFC President Dana White said his low-point came when he saw his heavyweight champion in the North Dakota hospital.

    "He didn't eat. They were feeding him intravenously. He didn't know what was going on,"Â White said. "They had him on morphine for the pain and he was panicking and freaking out, (and) ripping heads off, mine included."Â

    The Bismarck medical staff properly diagnosed Lesnar's condition, he said.

    "It extended to me to diverticulosis. "¦ I had a perforation. One of my diverticula ruptured," he said. "I had a hole in my stomach, needless to say, a minor hole, but any tear in your stomach liner releases free air and I was killing myself. My abscesses were so large that my body was infected. My body couldn't gain all the nutrients I needed. I couldn't eat enough food to get enough energy."Â

    Lesnar's doctors wanted to perform major surgery once the area's swelling had gone down.

    "What they wanted to do was go in and remove the bad section of my colon,"Â Lesnar said. "If that perforation hadn't have healed itself, that's what I was facing."Â

    Lesnar said that route would have entailed wearing a colostomy bag for six to eight weeks, then additional surgery to reattach his intestines together. If Lesnar had gone through with the surgery, he said he "would have probably retired."Â

    During his 11-day stay at Medcenter One, Lesnar said the staff performed a "small medical procedure,"Â where a six-inch needle was placed in the fighter's stomach to drain three pockets of fluid. Lesnar said 14 CC's of fluid were removed in all. Lesnar was also prescribed multiple antibiotics to fight the infection.

    "The next morning, I was able to eat, and that's when I decided that I'd had enough of the hospital and then I proceeded to go home,"Â he said.

    Lesnar visited the Mayo Clinic the next week for a second opinion, though the Mayo physicians concurred with the North Dakota staff: Lesnar would need major surgery within three months to correct the situation. Lesnar was asked to return in six weeks for a colonoscopy examination to assess the damage once his swelling had receded.

    Lesnar returned to his Alexandria, Minn., home and did something wholly unconventional: He went back into the gym.

    "I lost 40 pounds, so I wanted to get my weight back, start eating healthier,"Â he said. "What got me here was a total protein diet, not enough fiber. I totally changed my diet, got on some natural healing medicine and was just doing a lot of praying."Â

    The change in diet wasn't easy, but it was necessary.

    "I'm a carnivore, you know? I'm not a big fan of PETA. I'm a member of the NRA and whatever I kill, I eat,"Â Lesnar said. "For years, I was surviving on meat and potatoes, and when the greens came by, I just kept passing them."Â

    Lesnar, a self-described "private person,"Â did not comment publicly on his ordeal during this time. Reporters turned to the UFC, and when they ran out of answers, the media went to his camp.

    "When my own camp comes out and says things when they're not authorized to say anything, it pissed me off,"Â Lesnar said. "Automatically, I want to get rid of those people because they're the people I trust and for them to go out and speak on my behalf, I was not happy. I am a private guy. I didn't want to talk to anybody because there was nothing to talk about."Â

    When Lesnar returned to the Mayo Clinic on Jan. 5, he and the doctors were astonished by what they found.

    "They found absolutely nothing," Lesnar said. ‘The doctors came in and their whole panel at the Mayo Clinic just said, ‘You just got a winning lottery ticket. We don't need to do surgery on you.'"Â

    Lesnar had another CT scan Monday to verify the findings, which remain intact for the time being. He said he'll return to the gym on Thursday morning. At his lightest, Lesnar said he weighed 248 pounds. Today, he said he's back up to 273 pounds.

    "I consider myself a healthy human being. I'm 32 years old and for something like this to happen to me, I definitely had to re-evaluate,"Â Lesnar said. "When you think you're doing all of the right things and all of a sudden something like this happens, obviously you're not. I had to make some changes."Â

    White said Lesnar will fight the winner of the March 27 interim championship bout between Frank Mir and Shane Carwin. The title reunification bout that follows will likely be held in Las Vegas, said White.

    Lesnar said he'll be prepared for whichever challenger emerges.

    "I'm getting ready for anybody and everybody,"Â said Lesnar. "I know the heavyweight division is definitely back on its toes again because Brock Lesnar is definitely back."Â

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    Well that is some good news. I am surprised though that he said too much protein and not enough fiber is what caused his problem. My mom has diverticulitis and one of the things she CANT! eat a lot of is high fiber foods. She has to be very careful about whole grains, bran and stuff like that and especially nuts and seeds. Lettuce and raw spinach has triggered her two worst attacks, but her doctor actually told her to eat more lean protein. Edited by: Bear Backer
     
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    Yes!!!!!!!!! I love brock's style, i hope he will throw his next opponent around like a rag doll!
     
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    Good, quick article on the importance of the Nordic Monster...Brock Lesnar.

    Doggy Bag: The Importance of Lesnar

    Monday, January 25, 2010
    by Sherdog.com Staff (Photos by heymanhustle.craveonline.com)

    Everyone answers to somebody, so we, the staff at Sherdog.com, have decided to defer to our readers.

    "The Doggy Bag"Â￾ gives you the opportunity to speak about what's on your mind from time to time.

    Our reporters, columnists, radio hosts, and editors will chime in with our answers and thoughts, so keep the emails coming.

    This week, readers weigh-in on the return of Brock Lesnar and fighters shuffling between weight divisions.

    Sherdog, I'd like to hear a staff member chime in on the return of Brock Lesnar and what it means for the UFC.
    -- Justin W.

    Brian Knapp, associate editor: In short, more money. Lesnar, in his brief career, has become the promotion's most dependable cash cow and its most polarizing figure. The two go hand-in-hand, of course. His return equals more lucrative gates and higher pay-per-view buy rates. That, in itself, has to be music to UFC President Dana White's ears.

    From a competitive standpoint, it gives the UFC a superstar heavyweight around which to build. Lesnar, a young 32 and still developing as a mixed martial artist, provides the promotion countless options with which to work, assuming he can return to full strength. He figures to face the Frank Mir-Shane Carwin winner in a title unification bout sometime this summer. Should Lesnar pass that test, possible matchups with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Cain Velasquez and Junior dos Santos loom.

    The more important question surrounding Lesnar centers on what can be expected from him inside the cage. To face one's own mortality at such a young age can bring about permanent change, mentally and physically, and there are no guarantees we will ever again see the same fighter who demolished Mir at UFC 100 in July. The UFC certainly has considered the possibility.

    Fortunately, the UFC's heavyweight division is far better prepared to withstand the potential loss of someone like Lesnar. Mir's resurrection, Carwin's emergence and the continued development of Velasquez and dos Santos, plus the arrival of prospects like Todd Duffee, give the company alternatives it did not have a few short years ago. It's a far cry from when Tim Sylvia ruled the division.

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    It was nice to hear Brock Lesnar on ESPN radio last week talk about Canada's goverment run health care system and what a joke it is compared to our health care and how we need some restructuring but not a total overhaul and takeover like Obama is planning to give us.
     

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