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  1. dwid

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    Look not to be a Debbie Downer but I think this puts a target on him. While some black players seem to be happy he got the contract I'm sure it's just because it helps their cause for future contracts. Most of the players congratulating him were White. I'm happy he got it but there's gonna be a few headhunters
     
  2. Leonardfan

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    What I think should be brought is the dichotomy of the situation - the best and highest paid running back in the league is white and the other 3 or 4 white running backs on NFL rosters are 3rd stringers/practice squad guys - there is no in between - it's ridiculous. I do think some blacks will go after CM more now that he got paid but I also feel he has had a target on him since he came into the league being a white RB and a threat to the false premise the caste system stands upon.
     
  3. Shadowlight

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    While it is true that the rank and file players in the NFL signed up for the owners proposal I was bewildered by a few things. Below are things that are pertinent and should have been negotiated but were totally ignored.

    1-Safe and natural playing surfaces. It is called grass and proper draining systems.

    2-Implementation of stricter head shot rules which would seem to mean adopting what colleges have where players are punished much more than the NFL for skull shots. ( Black players like the idea of skull shots).

    3-Better long term medical benefits.

    4-Expansion of the draft and upping rosters by four players ( instead of two) and six for game days which means two call ups from the practice squads.

    Makes sense to me. Safety and health concerns addressed right? More players check.

    Well the owners knew damn well where to strike the weak points of the mainly black player pool. They could avoid the above by offering up cheapo cookies which the players fell for. Two key components to the agreement that were hidden behind the headline stuff like the new 17 game schedule and expanded playoffs. Here is what probably tipped the scales.

    1-While not a full green light the NFL is letting it be known that the pot heads in the league can indulge without fear.

    2- A weakening of the drug punishment system. Think about this one. I and some others here have long suspected black players are juicing, especially the skill players like DBs and WRs, so this softening up of an already suspect lax system is more than just alarming. The NFL drug rules are arguably the weakest among all sports. They just got even weaker. What a disgrace.

    Want fresh proof of this crap? Highly rated LB Zack Baun was caught with a diluted sample at the combine. Before this new agreement he would have been punished. But with the changes he won't even get a slap on the wrist.

    This royally pisses me off. Bad enough so many black players have been drug cheating for years now it seems the NFL is giving them even more opportunities to cheat. I guess the world wants blacks cheating in football and Hispanics cheating in baseball so they can gain an advantage. As long as whites are put at a disadvantage all systems are go.
     
  4. Extra Point

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    The New York Giants currently have three white linebackers as their starters, Kyler Fackrell, David Mayo and Blake Martinez. The Giants also have promising second year player Ryan Connelly listed as a backup. The linebacker position should be a strength for them this year.
     
  5. Bucky

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    I'll be cheering for them for the first time ever!
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    Laughable signing by GM Ryan Pace in the first place. Way to much money for a #2/3 undersized TE:

    Bears released TE Trey Burton.
    Bears GM Ryan Pace signed Burton to a four-year, $32 million contract in 2017, but he never lived up to the billing. He had 569 yards and six touchdowns in 2018 and just 84 scoreless yards across eight games last season. Burton is still recovering from hip surgery and will need to prove he's healthy before he signs a new contract. He'll likely compete for a backup job elsewhere. Pace's "plan" at tight end is 34-year-old Jimmy Graham.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    Burton was widely hyped by fantasy football sites as a sure star after the Bears signed him, even though his career high over four seasons with the Eagles was just 327 yards. But all that upside he was bound to unleash in Chicago lol.

    Even with all the success by White tight ends over the past decade, there's still a default favoring of black TEs and their "athleticism" and "upside." "Draft experts," alleged "scouts" and DWFs see what they want to see, not what's in front of their eyes. The programming is so deep. . .
     
  8. Bucky

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    Doubt Bears GM Ryan Pace will have a job after this year. The Button signing is just one of many mind scratching moments he's had. He wastes money on Burton, finally cuts his tie with him. Only to sign an aging dinosaur in Jimmy Graham to replace him! LOL.
     
  9. Shadowlight

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    Pending a physical LB Jake Ryan was picked up for one year by the Ravens. Solid player likely added for just depth though.
     
  10. Bucky

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    Nice! Could be an ideal bounce back for Ryan. Ravens add Wolfe and Ryan to The Defense. Makes them a little more tolerable even with Eraserhead running things.
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    Bust RB Leonard Fournette has been campaigning for the Jaguars to sign Scam. Fournette was a hugely hyped up draft prospect - he was draft before McCaffery and has been a disappointment to this point. Another case of the blacks looking out for blacks at the expense of white's mentality.
     
  12. Bucky

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    I'll always remember when undersized(Should have been a CB) Wisconsin Safety Leo Musso stuck Fournette in 2017 season opener causing him to fumble. That game was also Ryan Connelly's coming out party!

    He's aging fast compared to the spry and athletic CMac!
     
  13. Extra Point

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    Gardner Minshew had an excellent rookie season and looks like the answer for the Jaguars. Nevertheless there is already a push to replace him with a quotaback. Draftniks have the Jags taking Jordan Love in the 1st round and others want them to sign Cam Newton.

    The Jaguars have their quarterback, Gardner Minshew. They should build around him.
     
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    Just a rare piece of good news and a pleasant surprise in the Caste NFL. Frankly I thought his pro career was done after the last 2 seasons. I figured he'd disappear into obscurity like so many other talented White athletes before him. Never to be discussed again, accept for the occasional mention on a site like ours...
     
  15. Quiet Speed

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    Nick Fitzgerald sure did have some impressive runs while at Mississippi State. Don't hold your breath that he'll ever play in the NFL. I'm hyped for Tommy Stevens at the moment and all that can be hoped for is a signing as a UDFA. This league has a script and they stick to it.

    Nick Fitzgerald deserves another shot in the NFL, and here’s who should sign him


    by Michael Collins1 week ago Follow @MCFanSided

    Nick Fitzgerald was one of the best young quarterbacks in the SEC when he stepped into the huge void left by Dak Prescott, and he could still be a successful NFL quarterback.

    When Nick Fitzgerald finally got his shot after backing up legendary Mississippi State quarterback Dak Prescott, fans were excited to see what he could do. He put up some monster numbers in his sophomore season and had Bulldogs fans pumped up once again.


    ALSO READ: Why Dak Prescott deserves his $40 million a year

    His production did fall off a little in his junior and senior seasons, although the stats were still very respectable. He set a school record being named the SEC Player of the Week six times during his career at Mississippi State.

    Fitzgerald went undrafted in the 2019 NFL Draft, eventually being signed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and landing on their practice squad for most of the season, until being released in October.

    He never saw a snap in a live NFL game and went on to sign with the XFL’s St. Louis BattleHawks in January. With the shutdown of that league due to the coronavirus pandemic, Fitzgerald is once again playing the waiting game.

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    Some NFL team needs to give him a shot, and Fitzgerald needs to play with the fire and intensity he had in 2016 for any team to want to keep him around.

    Right now, the NFL is quarterback-starved. There are a lot of aging starters (legendary ones even) who are getting ready to hang up the cleats. Teams like the Carolina Panthers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are moving on from their former starters like Cam Newton and Jameis Winston.

    Young quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Kyler Murray are showing the league that athletic gunslingers who are students of the game are going to be what teams want, and Nick Fitzgerald fits that bill perfectly.

    What NFL team would be a good fit for Nick Fitzgerald?
    There are a number of teams who would benefit by at least giving Fitgerald a shot and seeing what he can bring to shake things up, but one team, in particular, may be a great place for him to play.


    The Atlanta Falcons are going to be looking for a project quarterback to possibly take over the team from Matt Ryan, who is entering his 13th year in the league. Getting a guy like Fitzgerald on the cheap who they can coach-up and mold into what they want while Ryan still has a few years left in his arm would be beneficial.

    Ryan is the prototypical pocket passer, and he’s amassed just about every possible team record there is at quarterback for the Falcons. That said, Atlanta may do well to move with the times and find themselves a quarterback who is mobile, unpredictable, and who has youth on his side.

    Enter Nick Fitzgerald.

    Falcons head coach Dan Quinn isn’t unfamiliar with the idea of bringing in a young, mobile quarterback and seeing what happens. He was the defensive coordinator with the Seattle Seahawks when a young Russell Wilson came to town and everyone expected him to be a backup at best.

    Make no mistake, there’s no comparing Wilson and Fitzgerald right now, but who’s to say there couldn’t be at some point down the road?


    Fitzgerald cold bring some fire and excitement to an Atlanta offense that has, truthfully, gotten rather stale. With seasoned and top-line receivers such as Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, and Laquon Treadwell there to help him along, it would be a great fit.

    Fitzgerald can play, that’s been seen. But does he have what it takes to bring his game up to an NFL level? He needs another shot and some encouragement in a tight-knit team environment. A place like Atlanta could give him both.
     
  16. Leonardfan

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    The Jaguars implosion continues - hopefully both Fournette and this clown are traded. The Jaguars have 12 picks and can really do some good if they want to turn this franchise around - getting more pale faces in the locker room would be a wise start.

    In a Monday afternoon Twitter barrage, disgruntled franchise player Yannick Ngakoue demanded co-owner Tony Khan to "just trade me."
    You can read the whole tweet thread at the link below, where Ngakoue and Khan exchanged a number of public messages to each other. Ngakoue first told Khan to "stop hiding," and Khan replied while taking the high road, thanking Ngakoue for his contributions to the Jaguars and explaining to Ngakoue that "good trade compensation" will get Ngakoue his wish for a trade. To this point, the Jaguars haven't found that. Ngakoue remained frustrated, telling Khan to "just trade me" and hold the speech, to which Khan mic-dropped Ngakoue with an "I’m sure you’re really driving up the price today" reply. Ngakoue is doing himself no favors by taking this to Twitter. NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Monday that there have been no trade offers from teams for Ngakoue, knowing the Jaguars want premium draft picks while Ngakoue also needs a monster long-term contract.
     
  17. Rocky B

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    I’d love to be an NFL GM for 4-5 years.....
    I’d draft the best black players available and every white we talk about that isn’t too over slated.....If I had a 50/50 team, folks would call us racists, I’m sure.....So much for true diversity.....If Walter Payton fell upon my draft board, I’m all over it....I wouldn’t pencil in Luke Lippencott as a starter if Jim Brown is on the team....Some people say Jack Ham couldn’t play in today’s game.....Bullcrap.....I’ll take 5 of that guy.....Ranting.......
     
  18. Shadowlight

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    Me too but remember if you have close to a 50/50 team one way to stave off the dogs is to have a black QB. One who hopefully can throw.

    I would have two major mandates.

    One is I want two starting white wide receivers and at least two white back ups. On a lesser note I would lean heavily towards a white TE. The rest of the offense including the entire OL could be black for all I care. That would keep the racial ratio in tow.

    Two is I want at least six starting white defenders and more than half of the defensive roster depth should be white as well. I have had it up to my neck watching these modern day clueless crap defenses. I want to bring back real defenses. Like the one Nebraska had during the Tom Osborne years.
     
  19. Shadowlight

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    I think it has been established that this draft will be especially miserable. There are two key reasons why this draft will have us reaching for the barf bags.

    The first is the cavalcade of black players that most surely will be picked. The top of the draft is full of black players so the first two days will set the bleak stage. Then the final day will be loaded with mediocre black defensive backs and wide receivers. It won't be pretty.

    The second issue is if teams draft over the heads of white players who are set up to make some noise.

    On the latter there is the Giants bringing in white linebackers and the fear is they might select say Simmons in the 4th slot. The hope is of course they trade down and draft in other much needed areas. The Cardinals of course with WR Andy Isabella could really muck things up by drafting a wide receiver or two.

    There are other examples but perhaps the most important team to watch on this score is Tampa Bay. With Tom Brady on board now it seems like this is an excellent opportunity for third year WR Justin Watson and second year WR Scotty Miller to blossom as their third and fourth receivers. Their GM Jason Licht has publicly supported them for 2020 but the proof will be in the pudding. If Tampa Bay goes the WR route in the draft that will send out a terrible signal.

    Below is a superb analysis of Justin Watson and his 2020 projection.

    https://breakoutfinder.com/will-justin-watson-be-unlocked-by-tom-brady-in-2020/


    And also an article on Scott Miller regarding 2020.

    https://thepewterplank.com/2020/04/05/5-buccaneers-will-make-name-2020/
     
  20. dwid

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    Lol good luck finding a black qb that can throw and won't choke in the big games. After decades of trying bum after bum there's finally Patrick Mahomes, and who knows how he'll perform after there's plenty of tape on him. You'd probably have to settle for glorified game managers like Wilson or Bridgewater....if you're lucky enough that some other team hasn't overpaid for them
     
  21. Shadowlight

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    My team will win a Super Bowl in my head. I do not require a franchise QB. I would prefer someone with a little more mobility than Bridgewater but I could settle. I don't require a QB who can run like Taysom Hill or Lamar Jackson.

    I have a different approach than many. On offense the QB has to possess an average arm and doesn't make a lot of foolish mistakes. As long as he can make the common throws . In general my offense will be conservative. I would utilize multiple backs with at least one who can catch passes. I don't want dancers. I want backs who can pick up the tough yards. I especially want smart backs who hit the hole hard and can quickly take advantage of their blocks. I would like to have a versatile fullback who can run and block. A swift TE is a must. I want smart, crafty, quick white wide receivers with good hands who understand route trees. Just like I don't need a franchise QB I don't need 4.3 WR burners either. The OL must be agile and quick. I want athletic pulling guards. I know you need size but I don't want heavy breathing overweight OL either. And a good center is always a must.

    Undergirding all of this is a team built on endurance. I don't want a team that suffers from 4th quarter black fatigue. I want players who are as fresh in the 4th quarter as they are in the 1st. My team won't lose any quickness as the game goes on. For all the testing at the combine the one key thing they omit is endurance.

    But most of my capital will reside on the defensive side of the ball. My mainly white defense will be built on ancient standards. Think of a castle with a moat. Yes sir I want a ferocious defense that resembles a medieval army.

    I want to build a defense we don't see anymore. I want aware quick defenders who tackle the proper way. Good luck finding defenses today who totally fit that requirement. I also want a high IQ defense. I want defensive backs who can run and chew gum at the same time and know how to track balls in the air. My safeties will be locked in on big plays like a fly on poop. I will zone in on filling up the roster with defenders who quickly recognize what is going on and react to it without hesitation. I want the opposing QB to be nervous every time he drops back to pass.



    No skull shots but to go along with tackling skills I want quick strikers that lets the opponent feel it in a bad way. In other words I want defenders who can stick it. No pretty boys on my defense. I want a defense that thinks it is a personal insult any time they give up points. And I don't anticipate them giving up many points at all.

    My philosophy on special teams is I want steady. I don't need booming kickers. I want consistency. I don't want kickers and punters who go cold the entire game. Sure there will be muffs but the key is they don't screw up an entire game.

    My (white) punt returner will be smart and make sure he puts the offense in the best possible field position. Again I am not looking for fancy. I want a returner who doesn't make bonehead decisions.

    Kick returners are less important today than they were in the past because of the rule changes but you obviously want a swift runner. I do not want my starting wide receivers or defensive backs returning kicks.

    So in review a solid offense that doesn't need to be too fancy. Just a team generally built on quickness and endurance and brains. And a fundamentally sound team. I am not building my team around black guys who look good working out in their fruity latex outfits.

    Ultimately "my team" will win because of the defense.
     
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  22. Leonardfan

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    Hopefully Isabella is traded during the draft. The little midget Murray is pushing for the cardinals to draft one of his ex teammates from Oklahoma which as Isabella I would take as a slap in the face. Another reason to hate the bobble headed MurrAy.
     
  23. Shadowlight

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    Juicy fresh rumor. TE Rob Gronkowski might land in Tampa Bay in a trade. He has one year left on his contract (I didn't know that) and this will unite him with a familiar face. Who knows? Late draft empty rumor or the real thing? He will be fresher after taking off an entire year.

    I have not heard any rumor regarding an Isabella trade but that doesn't sound like an awful idea.
     
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    Well Schefters reporting gronk and 7th round pick for 4th round pick done pending physical!!
     
  25. Leonardfan

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    Nice! My guess is Belichick will try to trade for the Bucs bust te oj Howard now.
     

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