I’m actually excited about AFC playoffs!

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  1. Deadlift

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    The NFC is somewhat irrelevant to me. I really don't care if they send their blackest team to the Super Bowl.

    Except for the coal black O-lines of Baltimore and Pittsburgh (and if they make the playoffs - 3 blacks on the Jets O), the AFC playoff teams are a bit Whiter than their NFC counterparts. I'd rather see Miami in the playoffs and not the Jets.

    When I look at the AFC, there's few things that can go wrong in my mind. If Chicago doesn't make the playoffs, the black coach "storyline" will be solely in the AFC. Both Pittsburgh and Indy have some on-the-field problems. My opinion of Indy is more favorable because of Peyton, Dallas Clark, Ryan Diem -- and Dungy is > than the visibly clueless Tomlin.

    It's interesting that black coaches usually have a White QB in the NFL. Peyton and Big Ben will be going for their second Super Bowl title. I can't root for Pittsburgh because of the way the organization operates. In all likelihood, both of these teams will be watching the Super Bowl from their homes. Indy's defense is soft. That will be difficult to overcome.

    San Diego would make the playoffs interesting. They got screwed with that Ed Hochuly(?) call, and I think they have more potential to do damage than lowly Denver with their "you don't have to play defense" clauses in the player contracts they give.

    Denver is the AFC's equivalent of Arizona and they would almost certainly be one-and-done in the playoffs. Pennington and Rivers would round-off the AFC playoff QB-class nicely. White talent -vs- White talent in the AFC. It should be great! Anything can happen...
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    There's a good chance there won't be a single starting black QB in the playoffs, which would be another strong blow against the Caste System and the propaganda that backs it up.


    The Eagles' chances of making the playoffs took a big hit Sunday, when McNabb & Co. came up with all of 3 points against the Redskins and lost. Minnesota has a pretty good chance of making it but could still be beat out by the Bears depending on whatChicago doestonight and next week.


    Of course, Tarvaris Jackson has only been the starter the last two games after being benched most of the season, and may not start this coming week or in the playoffs if the Vikings do get in. Then again, having him on a national stage, showing off his wonderful prowess at 4 yard throws and little else, may be a good thing. [​IMG]


    Keep in mind thata decade ago, virtually all of the media mavens and DWFs expected the NFL to be black dominated at QB by now. That's worked out about as well as the predictions that Tiger Woods heralded a black takeover in golf and the Williams sisters a black takeover in tennis. Now, if the DWFs would only start taking a look at all the positions in football that are black dominated and realize, other thanblacks' tiny edge in straight line speed on average, which is negated by the far larger pool of white football players and which is negligible given all the other abilities and intangibles needed to succeed at football, the NFLis onegigantic affirmative action experiment gone to ridiculous extremes. Well, we can dream anyway.
     
  3. sport historian

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    Several years ago, even Vanity Fair magazine had an article heralding the coming black ascendency at pro QB. The drafting of quarterbacks was supposed to indicate this.

    The NFL Network program on the Top 10 draft mistakes reported that Spurgeon Wynn and Tee Martin were taken ahead of Tom Brady. They said that this was a big error, but didn't ask why.
     
  4. Liverlips

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    I'm a little excited about the playoffs. The Pats are the whitest team with 10 starters so I hope they get in. The way they are playing they wil be hard to beat. Denver, San Diego and the Dolphins start 7.

    The Giants, with 8 white starters, are my team in the NFC. Atlanta and the Panthers both start 7 whites and the Vikes do as well when Tavaris Jerkson isn't in at QB throwing picks.

    I hope for early exits by the most racist teams - Cardinals, Bucs, Cowboys.
     
  5. backrow

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    ah, but Bucs start 3 whites on defense, including one of the maybe 2 or 3 starting DTs and safeties!
     
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    Da Bears won last night in OT I believe. The NFC North will either produce a black QB or a black coach for the playoffs.

    John
     
  7. Deadlift

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    And they start 4 blacks on the O-line and have 2 black TE's in Jerramy Stephens and Alex Smith.

    I also keep reading on this site that Gruden screwed Alstott -- so screw Gruden!

    Even the Cowboys' have 2 Whites on the O-line and Jason Witten. As they control their own destiny, it will be interesting to see if they can beat the Eagles this week.
     
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    I feel bad for the white star players on dark as night teams. For example, Barrett Ruud is probably my favorite defensive player (Chad Greenway and Eric Weddle are up there too) but I find it impossible to root for the Bucs with Chuckie at the helm. I mean 4 black sumos, give me a break.......

    Jason Witten is another guy. I really wish he was on a caste friendlier team so we could all root for him guilt-free.

    As for the Cardinals, I have seen them on TV 3 times this year against the Jets, Giants and Patriots. In all 3 games they were thrashed badly. Their all black defense is truly pitiful. Guys missing tackles left and right. Anyone who saw Randy Moss take a WR screen and run in a straight line down the sideline untouched for 70 yards knows what I mean. The Cardinals, even with home field, will surely be knocked out. Hopefully Jerheme Urban will get to contribute. That would be the only saving grace with that embarrassing unit.
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    The Cardinals sumo o-line has reverted back to its usual form. It's almost miraculous that Kurt Warner hasn't been injured with all the hits he takes.


    There's such a contrast between Warner and the league's affletes at QB. Warner is unafraid to take a hit and waits until the last moment to get rid of the ball -- downfield. Affletes don't like to wait that long and take the unavoidable hit that goes with it, so they throw it earlier -- and generally for three yards instead of downfield. But hey, they have fewer interceptions than white quarterbacks, which means they'regreat game managers.
     
  10. Deadlift

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    The AFC playoff teams have the best QB's!

    Rivers, who achieved 4,000 passing yards and 34 TD's, is a rising lion. He hosts titan Peyton Manning, who's legacy will be harmed if he doesn't come out of San Diego with the win.


    Flacco -vs- Pennington: This should be interesting.

    Baltimore's O-line will probably let them down at some point in these playoffs. It's a good thing that Flacco can throw and run.

    As for Miami, Pennington and Fasano have had great chemistry lately and that's a key for this game. I expect a competitive game.


    The AFC is stacked, and I don't see Tennessee making the Super Bowl this year.
     
  11. Ibanez

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    Philip Rivers and Drew Brees will probably go down as two of the best QB's to ever play the game, but they will probably never win the Superbowl (trademarked, don't sue me).

    It is complete sorcery to win the superbowl, and plenty of great QB's didn't.

    I don't see the Bolts or the Dolphins doing anything in the playoffs.

    I do see the Ravens doing well though, because they have a good defense and Flacco seems surprisingly 'balanced' (for lack of a better word) for a rookie. He can throw well and has good mobility to make running throws and even run for yardage as well.

    As a complete aside, who here thinks it is absurd that the 11-5 Patriots are out of the playoffs? I am no Pat fan, but my goodness.
     
  12. Don Wassall

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    I'm rooting for the Colts and Peyton Manning. Manning looks like the frontrunner for MVP and it would be great to see him further cement his legacy by winning the Super Bowl again. With Manning, Dallas Clark and Anthony Gonzalez, three white starters on the o-lineand some white backups on defense that play, the Colts are as good to root for as any of the others. But their first round matchup against the Chargers now looks like it could be a tough win for Indy.


    The NFL was as Caste-oriented as ever this season but it was still great to see so many atrocious coal black teams. Another team I enjoyed seeing getting knocked out of the playoffswas Tampa, which collapsed by losingfour straight, topped off by a home loss to Oakland. [​IMG] I know they have three white starters on defense, but Chucky Gruden is a Casteslut all the way.
     
  13. Ibanez

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    Colts will probably win. They are very strong and focused. Peter King at si.com has a very good article on his MVP vote and what Peyton Manning actually went through prior and during the season with respect to his knee surgery etc.

    Very revealing article.

    Don't forget their superior centre Jeff Saturday! He will probably make the hall of fame if/when they win the superbowl this year.
     
  14. rajuncajun

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    The Chargers are clearly the choice in terms of most white brothers on the field. They have 4 OL, QB and now Jacob in the starting 11 on offense and 4, sometimes 5 brothers on D. It also GREAT seeing Gregory AND Weddle on the field at the same time! Indy and Peyton are a close second. In the NFC, it has to be the Giants because of the OL and TE as well as Eli on O and now a couple of guys playing on D. The Falcons also have more white guys on the field than in the past and are now led by an emerging new white star in MattyIce. Too bad the Pats with 11 wins and one of the whitest teams are sitting out the tournament! Also, glad to see 10 out 12 QB's are white, too bad Gus The Kid may be sitting out as tavaris will probably be the starter.
     
  15. ManifestDestiny

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    I really would have liked to see the Patriots and Mr. Snow Angel make the playoffs but I'll have to settle for my Vikings making it.

    And though I know alot of you don't want to hear it, but Gus is terrible and Jackson would be better for us. More athletic ability to help escape the crafty Eagle blitzes. Gus needs to just retire.

    Still, SKOL VIKINGS!
     
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    I must have missed the part where Tavaris Jackson was the starter all year. And won most of their regular season games.

    I'm not saying Gus Frerotte is good. But the results speak for themselves.Edited by: PhillyBirds
     
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    If you think Gus had anything to do with winning, you need to go watch those games.

    We won in spite of Gus. He was throwing interceptions like nobody's business. Jackson just had a game where he threw 4 touchdowns against Arizona, and 3 of those passes he made were excellent.

    Jackson didn't play well against New York, but there is no way Gus is better at even "game managing" then Jackson is. Don't get me wrong, Tarvaris sounds as dumb as rocks, but he's athletic and has been playing better then he was earlier in the year.

    That said, we need a new QB for next year because I am not a believer in Jackson as our "QB of the Future" by any means.
     
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    The policy of many NFL teams when trying to develop a black quarterback is to not "threaten" himby havinga quality (white) backup. Frerotte is a prototypical journeyman type whose starting days were long over and who was near the end of his career, thus he made a great number two QB for Childress. It took Jackson being more wretched than even Childress could stomach, not to mention being a threat to cost him his job, to make the switch to Frerotte.


    As in past starting stints, Frerotte started off well then cooled off. He was an improvement over Jackson, but that's not saying a lot. Given his black skin privilege, Jackson may yet get another season or two as a starter before he's given up on for good.
     
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    While I don't see it as that extreme, I think you are right but not for the reason you stated.

    Childress drafted Jackson in the 2nd round, traded up for him, it was widely regarded as a bad move. After his first few seasons being a a bust, he started this season terribly and, at the cost of saving his job, Childress benched him.

    But after Gus fizzled out (and he wasn't even that good in the beginning, to be honest), Chilly was more than happy to hand the reigns back over to "his" project of Jackson. I really think you are misanalyzing it in terms of it being because Jackson is black-the move came because Chilly wanted to be right as he was known for having a key part in the development of McNabb. Jackson has started to play better, and I use that strictly in relative terms as he still isn't to the caliber that we need for a starting QB.

    I honestly think that even if Jackson were white we'd see the exact same thing happening in terms of him getting another shot. Childress is stubborn and thinks he is smarter than everyone else and thus wants to prove the naysayers wrong that said Jackson couldn't be the guy. Whether he can or can't remains to be seen, but one thing is for sure, Jackson does not sound like he graduated high school when being interviewed.Edited by: ManifestDestiny
     
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    Well, it's undeniable that the Vikings' season turned around when the team switched to Frerotte. They were going nowhere fast with Jackson but they ended up winning their division.


    Childress went back to Jackson after Frerotte was hurt, and Jackson has played better than he was earlier in his career, but is still not very good.


    I wasn't disagreeing with you so much as pointing out that theVikings didn't have a particularly good backup to turn to because that's how young black QBs are often handled, and that they often have longer leashes than white quarterbacks --with coaches, the media, and fans. Jackson clearly stunk and a change had to be made to salvage the Vikings' season and Childress's job. You seem to think the NFL is colorblind; if so then we do have a disagreement.
     
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  22. ManifestDestiny

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    The NFL is not colorblind, but it is also not as extreme as many on here make it out to be.

    I think there is obvious biases in terms of some positions like defensive back and runningback, but quarterback is one position where whites have always been given a chance to excel. Black quarterbacks may have more opportunities now then before, but that doesn't mean that a team is just going to hang onto one because it is politically correct. McNabb was benched a few weeks ago for Kevin Kolb, so don't try to paint this as a one-way street.

    I like this site for standing up for something that is politically incorrect to do, but at the same time I see extreme opinions on here that I don't agree with. I really think this place would be great if the posters on here could be the better people than the media types and advocate white players without having to at the same time degrade black players.
     
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    So McNabb was benched for a game after a decade starting, big deal. It happens to white QBs all the time when they struggle. And there are a number of posters here who agree that McNabb is a very good quarterback. We've also pointed out that many fans already disparage Kevin Kolb as not being of NFL caliber -- after playing all of one half of one game against a very tough Baltimore defense that was blitzing him on just about every play.


    Don't be so sure that teams don't hang on to QBs for PC reasons. Roughly half of major college programs have been starting black QBs of late. Some of them literally have to filter up to the NFL and be given lots of opportunity and media fanfare. Look how high Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell went in the draft despite being, at best, "projects."


    It's difficult to make the argument that many white players are not being given a fair opportunity without "degrading" black players to some degree. Black behavior on and off the field also needs to be called out. Football is filled with double standards and hypocrisy when it comes to race and the standards whites and blacks are held to, as is society as a whole. The NFL has a lot of ingrates who frankly need more competition for their jobs but don't because of the league's racial spoils system at most positions.


    And btw, everyone here sees opinions they disagree with. The "moderates" and "hard-liners" often see things differently and there are many shades of variation within those two groups. We're all individuals, not automatons. The bottom line we do agree with is that Caste Football is a site dedicated to supporting white athletes.
     
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    Also, it was stated that Kolb didn't see a single first-team snap the week before the Ravens game. He was basically thrown to the wolf with no resources whatsoever.
     
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