How to argue?

[Matt_Bowen_Fan]

How do we argue convincingly with others? I've pointed to the numbers of Brian Leonard, and all I get back is he lacks explosiveness and wiggle and how his times at the Combine mean nothing. How the hell are we supposed to talk to these people?

 

[Don Wassall]

The sitereceived this e-mail earlier tonight:


You are a real ass hole and I am white with a white middle line backer son going in to college fotball in 07'. Let the people who bitch, bitch but stop whining and Ray Rice behond leonord was much better then Leonard would be behind rice or anyone else and you know it. You just want to babble on about race.


A whole lot of people don't want to know the truth, don't believe it when they hear it, are too meek andsoft to admit it, or know the truth but support the status quo. There have been Americans for many years who have tried to "educate the masses" on various issues relating to how this country has been subverted from within, but until someone finds the right forumla (and it's not likely one exists at this late stage), all you can do is enlighten those with eyes to see and ears to hear and hope that eventually the numbers start to grow appreciably.

 

[a-train]

That's the promblem first we have to convince our own race.Don you ever thought to start a site like a scout or rivals,Open to all races just make sure our own are treated fair.Because I think we are going to have to attack this bias from the bottom up.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

MattBowenFan, those who won't listen don't want to know the truth. Either they are caught up in thinking they know everything, or are either a mindless sheep following the Caste System media.It is a waste of time to discuss it with alot of those people. Don is right, you have to talk to those who will hear and open their eyes to the truth. Another good strategy is to ask, if whites could be world class backs etc. through the mid-80s, why not now? What have we lost in 25 years that has made apopulation of white men 10 times larger than the black population incapable ofproducing another crop of awesome RBs. You could also talk about the myriad of state and national record setting white RBs at the high school level who are never recruited by colleges.


I would have asked the personwho wrote Donwhy they think Leonard wouldn't have been better than Rice with a good lead blocker in front of him, because they don't have any plays to watch to prove that. Leonard always ran in single back formations. He was never afforded the same luxury that Rice was of having a great blocker in front of him. Like Don said, some people don't want to know the truth. They won't accept any reality except for the most convenient one, which is at this time a very pro-black, PC reality. Edited by: Colonel_Reb

 

[White Shogun]

Even if Rice *is* a better back, that doesn't mean Leonard can't or shouldn't start in the NFL over other backs already playing or coming out of college anyway. Like we've always said, there is no way statistically speaking that of all the white running backs to play the game in high school, college and the pros, that not ONE white person can be found to run the ball better than the worst second string running back in the NFL. Statistically impossible.

 

[eaxs]

You are a real ass hole and I am white with a white middle line backer son going in to college fotball in 07'. Let the people who bitch, bitch but stop whining and Ray Rice behond leonord was much better then Leonard would be behind rice or anyone else and you know it. You just want to babble on about race.

Say what?

 

[White Mike]

How do we argue convincingly with others? I've pointed to the numbers of Brian Leonard, and all I get back is he lacks explosiveness and wiggle and how his times at the Combine mean nothing. How the hell are we supposed to talk to these people?

I found this site a few months back, and I've really tried to expose my friends to it. One way that seemed to work, was explaining the terms associated with whites(blue collar, overachiever, etc.), and letting them see how the terms are used by anouncers, and writters, etc. I showed a couple of my friends the Brian Leonard Combine clip from youtube, where Faulk and Vermile hoped he would "bulk up and become a really good fullback..." I think I saw a few lights turn on upstairs.

It's easier to explaine it to them on a one on one basis. I've tried to bring the topic of race and sports amongst a group of friends, and I'm quickly becoming known as the "racist" in the group. But when I bring it up one on one, it seems like I get a better reaction.

Try to make them think. Question why the NFL wants "Mike Vick Style" QBs, but guys like Jones and Zambrowski are moved to foriegn possitions?