Forgotten White Athletes?

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  1. mastermulti

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    just to introduce something new....
    I thought bios of some forgotten "white athletes" might be interesting.

    Here's one on one of my favourites,Darren Clark, who ran fourth in two Olympic 400 finals and went sub 45 x 11 times between the years 1983 and 1990.

    Enjoy

    Darren


    Unfortunately he's had difficulties since he lost his "ELITE ATHLETE" status. I'd love to meet up with him for his encouragement some day

    Darren nowEdited by: mastermulti
     
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    good stuff!
     
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    Awesome find! So many forgotten white athletes...Borzov, Wells, Mennea, and Nagel are too easily forgotten. Only Shirvo is remembered. The drug cheats overshadow them.
     
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    I remember Darren Clark...I remember his valiant efforts in the two Olympics. Thanks for mentioning someone who undoubtedly was a positive example, role model and inspiration for today's great white 400 meter runners.
     
  6. mastermulti

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    and this week's instalment is Raelene Boyle. Renate Stetcher of East Germany robbed her of both sprint golds in Munich 1972

    Raelene

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    Here are some American 100/200 sprinters not to be forgotten from the 30's to the 70's.

    Frank Wykoff
    George Simpson
    Robert Packard
    Sam Stoller
    Perrin Walker
    Clyde Jeffrey
    Hal Davis
    Payton Jordan
    Jack Weiershauser
    Mel Patton
    Donald Campbell
    Donald Anderson
    Charles Parker
    Chuck Peters
    Lindy Remigino
    Dean Smith
    Jim Gathers
    Thane Baker
    Charles Thomas
    Bobby Morrow
    Dave Sime
    John Haines
    Dick Blair
    Bill Woodhouse
    Tom Jones
    Earl Horner
    Gerry Ashworth
    Darel Newman
    Fred Kuller
    Larry Questad
    Jerry Bright
    Ben Vaughn
    Mark Lutz
     
  8. white lightning

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    Great list speedster. I have a question for you. Do you know where there are any videos of Kevin Little racing? I haven't seen any in years. Thanks in advance.
     
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    wow. that was an awesome read. i wonder what Questad would say about modern sports ...
     
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    Loved the article on Questad. I wonder if the name Glenn Davis has been brought up in this forum '56 and '60 gold medalist in the 400 i.m. hurd. and a 4X400 relay gold in '60. He died earlier this year at the age of 75. He was an incredible all around athlete.Was a world class performer in 100m,200m,400m,220 low hurdles,120 high hurdles and ofcourse 440 hurdle.He was near or at world record times in all those events,plus monkeyed around at an elite level with jumps and I think even a couple throwing events. You could make a serious apples to apple argument he was edwin moses equal @ 400 hurd. considering track conditions and brevity of track careers at the time.The man should be an Icon here, but the best obit. I found was in the Gaurdian.
     
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    I didn't see anything on Kevin Little out there WL.Somebody must have a race or two circulating.Hopefully they will put it up on Youtube soon like his 1997 World Championship win.
     
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    here's a rare sight, white sprinters taking the trifecta.

    It was the 1960 final, we in Australia were mourning because our 100m bronze medalist of the previous games, Hec Hogan, had died of leukaemia just the day prior to this race.

    Note the Lemaitre-esque slow start and transition phase of English third placegetter Peter Radford who comes home like a train.

    1960 final

    here's a stub on Radford, now 70. Gee there were some smart guys in track who stayed but a short time before getting stuck into their studies. Of course, it was an amateur world back then - no living could be earned by running.

    This guy broke the world 200m record before he turned 19.
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    Michael Johnson speaks of the world's fastest athletes.

    From 3.00 to 6.30 he talks about Alan Wells. He says "I find it hard to believe Wells was the last white (yep, he says it) sprinter to win a major championship" and it seems to me he was indicating there could be more like him if they had his immense drive and commitment.
    (this is from a man who knows Wariner's talent first hand).

    Most of us on here believe that too... have we just become too soft and contented - too lazy to really put in!

    Johnson 0n the world's greatest sprintersEdited by: mastermulti
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXR8Xv-S4Ig


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    he only white guy in this race is Kovacs but he is quite competitive here.
    Look at the time and look at the extent of victory and note how the sprints have come on in 25 years.
    Ben looked each side of him at 12 meters out and raised his arm 5 meters out and cruised over the line. Ridiculously easy and a sign it was time for the doubts to begin.

    I couldn't find the wind reading but safe to say a present day Christophe would have figured highly in this grand prix race of a quarter century back.
    Frightening thing is I saw this race run live back when ... LOL
     
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    At this link i found some infos: http://digilander.libero.it/atletica2/Stagionali/WRL/1986/100.htm
    The race was in Zurich, 13Aug1986. The wind -0.7.

    [TABLE]
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    [TD]10.03
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    [TD]Ben Johnson
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    [TD]10.22[/TD]
    [TD]-0.7[/TD]
    [TD]Chidi Imoh[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]10.25[/TD]
    [TD]-0.7[/TD]
    [TD]Carl Lewis
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    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]10.25[/TD]
    [TD]-0.7[/TD]
    [TD]Calvin Smith
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    i don't know the other times. But there were also Linford Christie apart Attila Kovács
     
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    good one! thanks dr.


    I think Christie and Kovacs followed in that order. About 10.27 and 10.29 I'd say.

    That list from 1986 has 10 white athletes 10.22 and under (including Alan Wells 10.21, by this time 34yrs 4mths old).
    We don't have that number on the 2011 list
     
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    woronin.

    this guy is definitley marian woronin:biggrin:
     
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    Casey Combest.


    [video=youtube;Xh-gP2jc3sA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh-gP2jc3sA[/video]
     
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    Yup, he could have gone all the way to the top.

    And at that age, not many of the elite that is around today, if any, would have touched him.

    Shame, would have been something special if he kept with it.

    And look at the bodytype, more meat on a butchers pencil.
     
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    the last time i checked, his record on the 60 m was still standing
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    blah

    cameron sharp[ bronze in 82 commonwealth behind wells and dope johnson] the "other " scottish sprinter of the early 80s , an absolute gifted sprinter with all the right tools until car crash ended his career way too early. :biggrin:
     
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    christian krone SA

    anybody know whatever happened to the the big bodied white south african sprinter christian krone , a talented sprinter last seen in osaka 2007 over 200meters :spy:
     
  26. white is right

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    Here is a small online story about the last White man to win the century (100 meter dash) and the political turmoil surrounding the games. I always felt if Asafa had half the heart of Wells he would have won a major 100 final by now.......http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/16028182
     

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