Artur Beterbiev

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  1. Ambrose

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    I saw Usyk's amateur fights against Beterbiev. Usyk has some really fine footwork, great hand speed, and he's tall; but Usyk didn't throw really hard, instead he went for points wins. Maybe he's different now that he's fighting pro.
     
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    I never saw him before, but here's his last fight, 4 months ago. Like you said, footwork, hand speed, not a slugger.

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    Word is that Artur beat Kovalev twice in the amateurs.
     
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  6. Ambrose

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    Not a very impressive win for Beterbiev as he suffered a bona fide knockdown in the first round against a journeyman and his stoppage of Page seemed to have been helped by a series of back-of-the-head shots which caused the journeyman's first knockdown.
     
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    Beterbiev is better than a slugger but he's not a boxer either. At the pro championship level you can't only compete with power, you have to have the boxing to go with it. That's why it's called boxing and not fighting. I see many flaws in him right now which Kovalev would jump on. Some of his flaws are corrigible, others are not.
     
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    They officially fought just once, Kovalev says he won but Beterbiev received a gift decision.

    The other fight was just sparring, Kovalev says he won.

    Beterbiev is back tomorrow night against Gabriel Campillo.
     
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    I'd hate to see Kovalev and Beterbiev fight because I'm a big fan of both so I wouldn't like to see one of them lose.

    If they fought right now, I'd favour Kovalev by stoppage. He's beaten better opposition (Hopkins, Pascal, Cleverly all very good opponents), and in addition to being a hard puncher he's shown he's smart and technically savvy.

    Good punchers are a dime a dozen.
    But a good puncher who can box, think, adapt, and defend is championship level.

    Beterbiev has looked mighty impressive VS Cloud and Saunders but we haven't seen him go rounds yet or seen if he can do more than just hit hard.

    I think Beterbiev ' s team would be making a big mistake if they chose to fight Sergey now. Beterbiev is not ready and needs 5-10 more pro fights to develop.
     
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    Kovalev is a superior boxer to Beterbiev. If he knocked Kovalev out then that would be his only chance.
     
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    Good post. But, in my opinion, I can't see Beterbiev ever developing and learning an all-around style it takes to be a champion. Beterbiev doesn't have the range, the jab, the elusive footwork, and defense that becomes a versatile world class boxer. Beater is more or less one dimensional at this point whereas we saw much of the above in Kovalev right from his debut on television. If most of those skills are not already present, it is almost impossible to put them there as a pro when a fighter fights tough competition and those Quebec trainers are useless unlike Kovalev's trainer.
     
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    I do not want them to fight each other. I'd rather they just cleaned out the sub-humans in the division, like Stevenson. Maybe one of them could move up to cruiserweight. Light heavy is now a very stupid division as it only encompasses 7 pounds, 168 - 175. Meanwhile cruiserweight encompasses 25 pounds...and heavyweight is everyone from 201 up to Andre the Giant or whatever. Boxing's idiotic weight classes. Both of them are about six feet tall so one of them might want to add some weight, no?
     
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    [h=1]Beterbiev wants Kovalev NEXT[/h] [FONT=Arial Narrow, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT] [​IMG]Photo: Amanda Kwok/PBC on CBS

    By Karl Freitag Undefeated light heavyweight and two-time Russian Olympian Artur Beterbiev (7-0, 7 KOs) will show his skills to a huge boxing viewership this afternoon on CBS when collides with former light heavyweight world champion Gabriel Campillo (25-6-1, 12 KOs) in the Stevenson-Bika co-feature in Quebec City.
    “I don’t think this is a big challenge for me,†said Beterbiev, the 2014 prospect of the year. “I’m ready to face the world champions and raise the bar higher. This is just another opponent for me.â€
    Already holding an amateur win over WBA/IBF/WBO champion Sergey “Krusher†Kovalev, Beterbiev says he ready to go straight into a fight with the champ. “Why not face Kovalev? I’m ready. When I turned professional my goal was to meet the champions. He’s a champion now and I’d like to face the champions.â€



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    "Maybe one of them could move up to cruiserweight..."

    But then cruiserweight, and of course heavyweight too, is also ruled by White men. Must be "racism" or "White privilege", huh? Maybe President Barryetta and the occupational government can pass a law enforcing affirmative action and diversity there.
     
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    He won't get a title fight for awhile yet. He'll have to fight some contenders and build a record and a following. Kovalev had to fight everyone, now it's Beterbiev's turn.
     
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    Well, he's fighting Campillo, a negro living in Spain, ranked #9, today.
     
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    Seen all of this before. Its all stationary short range stuff. Not that impressive really. Kovalev knocks guys out with long range jabs to the body on the fly. Much more impressive in all my experience.
     
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    Damn! I found a good stream - about a minute after it ended! Why was it on so early? Another KO for Mr B.
     
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    [h=1]Results from Quebec City: Beterbiev destroys Campillo[/h] [FONT=Arial Narrow, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT] By Dave Spencer at ringside
    Undefeated light heavyweight and two-time Russian Olympian Artur Beterbiev (8-0, 8 KOs) scored a spectacular fourth round KO over former light heavyweight world champion Gabriel Campillo (25-7-1, 12 KOs). Beterbiev dropped Campillo in round one and laid him out with a crushing right-left combination. Time was 2:23.


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    Just finished watching the Stevenson vs Bika fight. Stevenson struggled with a C+/B- fighter. He got the UD but faded in the last 1/4 of the fight. Kovalev will steam roll him. I doubt Stevenson will seek a fight with the Krusher.
     
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    He is a monster, don't get me wrong! Kovalev has much, much better skills though.
     
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    Saw the full fight. Campillo didn't move and he didn't punch; he was a punching bag. No contest here. Anything he did throw landed. Beterbiev keeps fighting these type of fights he'll face shock and awe against Kovalev who does move and fires long range missiles.
     

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