As a newbie and perhaps an "outsider" (as in not a white nationalist - don't know if the majority here consider themselves WN), after reading this whole thread even I would have to conclude that both the OP and "formerwhitecornerback" seem rather trollish. Both have a hostile attitude and both are making things personal when they should not be. Hell, I may be wrong, but that's what the evidence is leaning towards. Like I said, I'm not a white nationalist. I'm not going to go into the reasons why, as this is not the place for that. This is a place to talk about sports, and I'm happy to have found this place. White people need a forum in which we can root for athletes who look like us without being bombarded with shrieks of "racist!" No one thinks of it as wicked when blacks root for black athletes, or when Asians root for Asian athletes. I don't think it's bad either. I'm just a regular white person who thinks white people should have the same rights that all other races enjoy. Formerwhitecornerback, regarding your "if you disagree with me you must be a couch potato" rant, come on. There's a reason you're being perceived as a troll. Obviously, since I'm a woman, I didn't play college football, but I am a former gymnast and I played softball in college. If you know anything about gymnastics, you'll know how physically demanding the sport is. There's a way to express disagreement respectfully, and you're not doing it. To any like-minded lurkers reading this - I encourage you to take the next step and join up, as I did. I think this is a good site with a lot of good material. Yes, the political stuff can be kind of out there, but just stick to the sports-related areas and you'll be fine.