Alexander Povetkin

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white is right said:
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I like the klitschko's a lot.. But they are past their prime.. And if fighters like povetkin or boytsov could beat a vitali or wald. It would show everybody that the heavyweight's are not just the klitschko division......And i am lost most of the time!
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Have you been watching them fight? Vitali has looked basically as dominant as he has looked since the late 90's. Wlad is clearly better than he was pre-Sanders to the Peter fight. They both are at their peak or marginally past it for Vitali.

I think the KlitschkO brothers could dominate well into their 40's if they so desire and they stay healthy. Since they don't rely on speed age won't effect them the way it does many boxers. They also are able to avoid taking beatings in the ring. Hell they've been so dominant the last few years nobody's even landed a glove on them.

I think Povetkin has the most potential outside of the Klits but I don't think he has a shot against either brother.
 
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Povetkin knocked Mexican Javier Mora out in 5 rounds!!!

He knocked Javier down 3 times. Was beatdown! Povetkin looked good!
 

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I viewed Alex's fight against Mora on Youtube. He continues to improve under the tuteledge of Uncle Teddy. He showed great defensive skills i.e. head movement and shoulder rolls etc. His punches continue to be thrown correctly with great snap. I think Teddy knows he has a winner on his hands. Depending on how Wlad looks against Chambers, Alex's chances on possibly winning against Wlad continue to improve.

Also, he appears to have shed that baby fat. Tyson Fury should ask him about his conditioning regime.
 

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Povetkin is now scheduled to fight Teke Oruh, according to BoxRec.

Oruh lost to Joey Abell and then to Manuel Quezeda in 2008, and hasn't fought since then.
 
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Povetkin is now scheduled to fight Teke Oruh, according to BoxRec.

Oruh lost to Joey Abell and then to Manuel Quezeda in 2008, and hasn't fought since then.
What's going on???
dose the poor matchups thats in the heavyweight division now have
something to do with HBO?? it all started after the HBO jews said "no more heavyweight fights on our network," or better put, "no more white men beating up negros on our network!"
 

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Povetkin has to take some responsiblity at this point. I don't see the reason he has to fight this affelet scrub. He should go a better affeletic opponent such as Tony Thompson etc.
 

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And of all the trainers in the world he manages to settle for a Jewish homicidal psychopath with a long criminal record - but inside media and boxing connections (that are getting Povetkin exactly no place) - from New York City.  How does that work?  Gotta be more going on than meets the eye here.
 

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Povetkin seems to have gotten better under Uncle Ted's tutelage, but he hasn't fought any significant fights either. Looks like a wasted partnership.
 

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j41181 said:
Povetkin seems to have gotten better under Uncle Ted's tutelage, but he hasn't fought any significant fights either. Looks like a wasted partnership.


You think he's gotten better. I don't think so. He backed out of a world title fight because of Uncle Teddy's recommendations.
 

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"He backed out of a world title fight..."

More to that than meets the eye too, and it's connected with the media mobsters refusing to carry the fight on pay tv and the boxing mobsters. Why would he back out? No n'r in the Golden Gloves would back out. Chisora and all the rest ain't gonna back out. A world title fight is every boxer's dream, and it means big prestige and big money.
 
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And of all the trainers in the world he manages to settle for a Jewish homicidal psychopath with a long criminal record - but inside media and boxing connections (that are getting Povetkin exactly no place) - from New York City.  How does that work?  Gotta be more going on than meets the eye here.
I can't help but believe it has something to do with HBO,
rumor has it their having big time money troubles.
and why not! they push their anti-white propaganda all
the time, and internet moives and netfix are really putting a hurt
on them......
 

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The Klitschko's don't need HBO. They make plenty of money in Germany. It would have been the same situation for Povetkin. Have the fight in Germany and give Alexander a nice cut. Teddy Atlas said he's not ready though.
 
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whiteathlete33 said:
The Klitschko's don't need HBO.  They make plenty of money in Germany.  It would have been the same situation for Povetkin.  Have the fight in Germany and give Alexander a nice cut.  Teddy Atlas said he's not ready though.
Yes, but the power of the US. media can't be overlooked..
 

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fight fire with fire, if you can't beat um, join um

Teddy hates the Klitschkos so much for destroying the caste system in heavyweight boxing he'll do anything to try and beat them.
 

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Uncle Teddy is living the past. With the Iron Curtain down, floods of fearless Eastern Europeans are dominating the upper weight divisions. No amount of Marxist propaganda will stop that flow. The sports media of boxing maybe in the US, but sports biggest stage is now in Germany, which will remain so for many more years. US boxing might as well cash in on little giants like Pacquiao.
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On some of the boxing forums the word is that Povetkin has bludgeoned
Bruce Seldon in four rounds, in what many are calling a "dark" exhibition, they had no headgear, and ten oz. gloves and a referee, they were also fighting three minute rounds.
and Teddy didn't inform Povetkin's managment in Germany. the fight was non-sancrioned, but three judges were at ringside.
and some are saying this is not the first time Teddy has done this.
the fights are not going on Alexander's record,
because it's an underground match.
so maybe they'll drop Teddy now!Edited by: lost
 

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I find that hard to believe, bro.  Got a link?  Why would a top fighter like Povetkin, a very valuable athlete, potentially earning many millions and much fame, want to risk injury by engaging in a "dark exhibition"?  Even in the thoroughly crooked world of boxing, filled up with s--t like King and Atlas and all the rest of the mobsters, I find it hard to believe.  The only thing that I can think of that could conceivably make something like that possible is if the Judeo-Russian Mafiya paid enough money for a private show...
 

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I have never heard anything about this until now. I doubt Povetkin would waste his time fighting a 40 + year old Seldon underground for some garbage money.
 

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Alexander Povetkin and Bruce Seldon met
in the ring at the South Philly Arena on July 28. Teddy Atlas, who
trains Povetkin, says that the meeting was a "glorified sparring
session"Â and that efforts were made "to replicate the atmosphere of a
real fight even though it was just a training session."Â



The facts are as follows.



Earlier this year, Povetkin was the designated mandatory challenger for
Wladimir Klitschko's IBF heavyweight crown. The two sides could not
agree on contract terms. Klitschko's promotional company won rights to
the bout with a purse bid of $8,313,000. Twenty-five percent of that
amount was to go to Team Povetkin. Then Alexander pulled out of the
fight.



On July 22, Atlas told ESPN.com, "I think he [Povetkin] deserves the
chance to develop. I'm in the middle of training this kid, which is
obviously an important time in his life for the future of his career. My
job is to do the best job I can for the fighter and to make sure he's
the best he can be when he's in a situation to fight. I'm not controlled
or dictated by anything other than that. I was never really for the
fight right now. Let me have more time with him. I decided the most
important thing was to do what was the best for the fighter. My opinion
was, more time would be good."



Six days later, Povetkin entered the ring to face Seldon. The event,
scheduled for 8 p.m., was closed to the public. Between 70 and 100
invited guests were in attendance.



The event was set up to simulate a regulation fight.



Conversations with multiple sources who were in attendance confirm that Povetkin and Seldon wore 10-ounce gloves.



There was no headgear.



The referee was Luis Rivera.



The judges were Russell Peltz, Adam Berlin, and Don Steinberg.



The ring announcer was Larry Tournambe.



The timekeeper was Fred Blumstein.



Rivera, Peltz, Berlin, Steinberg, Tournambe, and Blumstein were paid for their services. So was Don Elbaum.



Elbaum did the nuts-and-bolts work of putting everything together. He
negotiated with Seldon's management team and the venue and arranged for
an ambulance to be on site.



Bruce Seldon was paid $10,000 for his participation in the event. He brought his own corner men with him from Atlantic City.



Teddy Atlas served as Povetkin's chief second. Joey Intrieri was Povetkin's cutman.



The money to pay for the event came from Povetkin's management team.
Refreshments (such as pizza and hot dogs) were sold. There was no beer.



The event was scheduled for 10 rounds. Seldon won the first round on
each judge's scorecard but suffered a cut above one of his eyes. The
second round could have gone either way, but all of the judges scored it
for Povetkin. Round three belonged to Povetkin. In round four, Povetkin
knocked Seldon down three times. There was no three-knockdown rule, but
Seldon was badly hurt and bleeding from the mouth after the third
knockdown. At that point, referee Luis Rivera stopped the event.



A Fight Fax report states that Seldon, 43, has been on suspension since
Aug.13, 2009, because of a failed drug test administered in conjunction
with a ninth-round knockout loss to Fres Oquendo in Illinois on July 24,
2009.



Povetkin engaged in at least one similar "sparring session"Â with Robert
Daniels at the Front Street Gym in Philadelphia on Oct. 17, 2009. That
encounter was also stopped short of its scheduled duration by referee
Luis Rivera.



Greg Sirb is the capable executive director of the Pennsylvania State
Athletic Commission. As a general rule, Sirb is outgoing and informative
when talking with reporters. That wasn't the case when he talked last
week with Lem Satterfield of fanhouse.com. Satterfield recounts the
following exchange:



Sirb: We checked into it and we classified it as a glorified sparring session.



Satterfield: Can you give me any details?



Sirb: Nope.



Satterfield: Was there any headgear used?



Sirb: Glorified sparring session, part of a training program.



Satterfield: But the guy got knocked out, didn't he?



Sirb: Glorified sparring session, part of the training program.



Satterfield: Was Teddy Atlas there?



Sirb: Yep.



Satterfield: Was he working Povetkin's corner?



Sirb: He was at the event.



Satterfield: There's no sanctions or anything like that?



Sirb: Part of a training program.



Speaking with this writer on Monday (Aug. 23), Sirb said, "This is a big
to-do about nothing. Things like this happen every day in gyms in
Philly. If it's part of a regimented training session, there's no
problem. This is silly. I'm not going to discuss it anymore."Â



However, the Povetkin-Seldon encounter appears to have been different
from a "gym war."Â In a sparring session, if a fighter is hurt, his
adversary backs off. In this "sparring session,"Â when Seldon was hurt,
Povetkin hurt him some more.



Fights are regulated by the state for several reasons. The most
important of these is to safeguard the health and safety of fighters.
That involves ensuring that (1) the participants are sufficiently
skilled and in appropriate condition to participate, and (2) the combat
is overseen by qualified licensed personnel.



The state is responsible for making these determinations. Not any
individual trainer, manager or promoter. Atlas and Elbaum are good
boxing people. They can regulate a fight far more capably than most
state athletic commissions. But there are a lot of bozos in boxing with a
towel over their shoulder and a pencil in their hand. A state can't
have one set of rules for Atlas and Elbaum and a different set of rules
for someone else who wants to arrange a "glorified sparring session."Â



Where should a state athletic commission draw the line? Suppose the
Povetkin-Seldon encounter had taken place at a black-tie event with
spectators paying $200 each for a gourmet dinner? Suppose there were six
"glorified sparring sessions"Â at the event instead of one? Suppose one
of the participants suffered a brain bleed or lost an eye?



I don't have a problem with fighters sparring without headgear and with
small gloves. It's fine with me if fighters go hard in sparring. And
I'll accept the premise that, from Povetkin's point of view, this was a
training exercise. But no matter how the Povetkin-Seldon encounter is
styled, it appears to have been a fight.



Was it?



If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, most likely it's a duck.



http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2242/the_povetkinseldon_sparring_session/
 

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lost said:
Is Atlas trying to turn Povetkin into a pitfighter??
word is that Povetkin's management got no money,


and didn't know about the fight. so maybe its bye,bye, for Teddy.





This doesn't smell good to me.  Why is Povetkin associating himself with a bum like Atlas?  I think that the boxing associations would be right to penalize the lot of them.  Atlas should have been banned from boxing for life years ago - when he admitted attempting to murder one of his earlier fighters, Donnie Lalonde.

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Guys this isn't that uncommon. I don't see the difference between this and a typical sparring session. It's not like he is anything to fear from a shot 40 something Seldon. I still don't get why Atlas is doing all of this stuff with a ready for prime time fighter. You would think Povetkin is a manufactured contender who is getting ready for title shot/eliminator ie Mcneely or Mountain Rivera.
 
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