2020 Track Season Results & News

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  1. jacknyc

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    His 6.65 was a few weeks ago. I missed that - thanks. Great time!
     
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    probably the wrong thread BUT here's one just for you W/L, when Shirvington looked like he could be anything. He's 19 here remember. Then he went on to run faster in the semi (10.07) and faster again in the final (10.03). He had no expectations on his shoulders at this early stage of his career and ran freely.

    Chris Donaldson of NZ, that handsome bloke with film director father, runs beautifully here in 2nd round heat 1. He also ran in that near wind-free final a creditable 10.17 if I remember rightly

     
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  3. white lightning

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    We have to continue that outstanding video coverage of the 1998 Commonwealth 100 Meters Semi finals and Finals: :)
    Matt Shirvington was always one of the rawest & most talented sprinters that I've ever watched. Just pure explosive, raw power even at 19!

     
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    Here is the video of the 1998 Commonwealth 100 Meters Finals. For all the young track fans at this board, notice Shirvo ran his. p.b. 0f 10.03 at 19 years of age. He
    equalled it but never bettered it. The sad thing is that if he had a little more wind he easily goes sub 10! Still in awe watching a 19 year old kid do this.

     
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    Interesting racial commentary of the Aussie announcers for this race. Anyone else notice that Shirvington stepped on the inside line coming out of the blocks? Otherwise it is a shame he did not break 10 seconds but he can take comfort in knowing he ran clean, Bolden the winner did not.
     
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    To the best of my knowledge Cole Beck will be a red shirt sophomore running back for Virginia Tech this fall.
     
  7. white lightning

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    Yes Ato was many of the later to be known cheats. What amazes me most about this race was that he ran a 10.03 into a negative wind against the biggest stars of the world at 19! Talk about a kid
    having ice in his veins. If you go back and watch many of the races from the 80's you will notice Allan Wells and others even beat Carl Lewis and Ben Jonhson, and many others until they all
    got on some kind of magical flinstone vitamins. Then that is when the gap was substantial. My point is many of this future gold medalists were known cheats. Many of these so called black supermen will not supermen at all. They lost to white guys on many occasions until they found something. Must be the magical yams the Jamaicans take. When we hear about cheats, it's almost always talking about the Soviet Union or Eastern Block Countries. They don't like to talk about blacks all around the world doing it back then up till today.

    Of the black sprinters in that race, Frankie Fredericks was one I enjoyed watching. He was very talented yet a humble and nice guy. He also looked to be natural other than being bald from a young age.
     
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    I've posted Mathias channel before. This is how he did the Norweigan Indoor Champs.

     
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    Jan Volko runs another 6.58 for the win today. His equalled his p.b. from last week. He is in great form. Good to see Kilty running better.

    Torun (Poland), 8.2.2020 -ORLEN Copernicus Cup-
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    60m 1 Jan Volko (svk) 6.58; 2 Joris van Gool (ned) 6.59; 3 Richard Kilty (gbr) 6.60; 4 Remigiusz Olszewski 6.61
     
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    Amen - Kilty's 6.60 puts him in the mix now - a week ot two ago he did 6.77 and 6.72 I believe. I hope his confidence is growing as he's peaking. He's 30 now
     
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    Here's a fact about Frankie Fredericks. The general view was that the fastest sprinters, the sub 10ers, the consistent medal winners, were all of "West African sub saharan ancestry" -
    Frankie was literally first to break that mould even though he is obviously African and dark skinned. Namibia doesn't qualify in those terms (although I forget the salient points of discussion about this). His was different lineage altogether.
    Australia's Patrick Johnson's 9.93 went largely unnoticed because his skin was black even though he's as far from African as I am
     
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    Excellent point mastermulti.

    I have a question for you? If you had to make a bet and could only bet on one guy, who would you choose to go sub 10 for Australia?

    Rohan Browning

    Jack Hale


    Again I repeat i love both of these kids. Hale is 21 and Browning 22 years of age. They both have plenty of time to go acheive this in the coming years. I hope they both make it!
    Australian Sprinting needs this more than ever to get more of the homeland youth interested in track. They need to see it can be done by their local heros at the highest level.
     
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    there's barely 4 1/2 months separating them on age so it'll be interesting to see their longevity one against the other.
    I believe Rohan Browning is very committed to all he does and he may well have to balance his sport with his profession - that usually leads to compromise. But for the moment he has Andrew Murphy as his coach and Andrew knows only too well how to make the body work well (his did for a decade and a half of triple jumping). He knows how to patiently prepare and wait and I think he can impart this to Rohan.
    Not sure about Jack's trainers but as far as I know he doesn't have big aspirations profession-wise.
    Hmm, given those scenarios I think Rohan would like to achieve his success fairly early whereas Jack can take his time and train well while pursuing less intense work related qualifications.
    I will go with Rohan for the first sub 10 - but I'd not be surprised at either one achieving it first
     
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    Personally I believe both have a shot at breaking 10 seconds, I believe if both do it Brownings time will be a little faster. I think he has better technique than Hale and is a bit taller. To be a 10.1 100m guy would drive me absolutely bonkers! I would think both can taste it right now. I hope both as well as Doran go sub 10!
     
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    I agree and maybe if the condtions are right next thursday on Feb. 13th, 2020 it just might happen to one or both of them. Would like to see Doran at least get another sub 10.20 or two this year to
    help add evidence that he too can be at the elite level. He ran a 10.15 last summer but that has been a one off so far. I think Doran has a chance but he is a few years away still. Browning and Hale
    are in it to win it. They both have elite talent and just need to execute all the stages of the races as smoothly as possible. I hope we see some fireworks on the track soon and that we are all celebrating
    some more personal bests from all of these guys and sub 10's would be the icing on the cake.
     
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    I'm not sure Doran has that top end speed of the other two and that makes things very tough. I still think he'll get down to low 10 teens though. That 10.15 seems a fluke now - it was in Finland in July 2018 so perhaps it's time for him to get off that plateau 19 months later.

    It's poor Josh Clarke I feel for - his 10.15 was a good one but it was 3.5 years ago now - he can't seem to run 2 races in a row without hamstring problems and I can see it in his stride - I had similar. We need him and Alex Hartmann for our relay team
     
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    1. 1 Asim Abdoulie

    2. 2 Anas Abu-Ganaba

    3. 3 Tom Agnew

    4. 4 Joshua Azzopardi

    5. 5 Nicholas Bate

    6. 6 Jordan Bolland

    7. 7 Aaron Bresland

    8. 8 Rohan Browning - can he get a qualifier? Aussie standard to make Tokyo is 10.05. The wind will play a big part

    9. 9 Joshua Clark

    10. 10 Zen Clark - still 18, the son of Darren Clark who is a nervous starter (3 dqs this season) but improving

    11. 11 Cam Debruin

    12. 12 Jacob Despard

    13. 13 Jake Doran - was that Finnish 10.15 genuine and is he ready to move on to a sub 10.20 legal?

    14. 14 Jonty Flottmann

    15. 15 Harry Fullerton

    16. 16 Hamish Gill - NZ's new fastest man but has some ground to make up on the top Aussies

    17. 17 Jai Gordon

    18. 18 Simon Greig

    19. 19 Jack Hale - same as comments for Rohan

    20. 20 Michael Hanna

    21. 21 Alexander Hartmann - no explosive start but has a good speed endurance and is a good back straight runner

    22. 22 Zach Holdsworth

    23. 23 Christopher Ius

    24. 24 Jin Su Jung

    25. 25 Ismail Dudu Kamara

    26. 26 Leonard King

    27. 27 Jesse Mckenna

    28. 28 Joseph Millar - ran 10.17 here 2 years ago. Can he recapture his form and take back the mantle of NZ's fastest man?

    29. 29 Liam Moss

    30. 30 Prosper Nwoko

    31. 31 Fejiro Omuvwie

    32. 32 Edward Osei-Nketia - his dad was a Ghanaian who migrated to NZ (holds a 10.11 PB). Ed is young but has done 10.19

    33. 33 Jake Penny

    34. 34 Jordan Render

    35. 35 Matthew Rizzo - a Stawell Gift winner who ran 10.34 PB in Canberra only 2 weeks ago with virtually no wind. He's 21
    36. 36 Will Roberts

    37. 37 Cameron Searle
     
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    as a sprinter the hardest thing I ever had to deal with by age 24 was I was never going to get faster than I was 10.45 100m, if it has not happened(sub 10.10) by that age it will not happen unless you are getting into track older because you never did track previously, or you are a late bloomer physically. I remember my coach telling a few of the guys that if you are closing in the last 30m of a 100m race but not quite getting there everytime then maybe its time to look at the 200's and 400's(a sprinters worst nightmare lol)
     
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    Christophe Lemaitre ran 6.71 yesterday, the same time he ran a few weeks ago.
    But at least he ran 20.83 in the 200m.
     
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    Top European 200 meters time for indoors this year! Maybe a glimmer of hope. In this pic he looks happy for a change.
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    Helsinki (Finland), 9.2.2020 -Nordkampen-
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    60m h1 Henrik Larsson (swe) 6.74 h2 1 Samuel Purola (fin) 6.79

    200m h1 Mathias Hove Johansen (nor) 21.27
     
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    Is Sailer's view towards white athleticism, especially in running events/positions overall as derogatory or defeatist as it was years ago? He wrote some stinkers a while ago and still seems somewhat emphatic; and is discounting any discouragement/participation difference because shortly after Lemaitre broke the barrier a slew of non west-africans did as well, coincidence? If France can produce an elite white sprinter then America with many more tens of millions of whites certainly would be able to.
     
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