2020 Election

Discussion in 'Happy Hour' started by Menelik, Nov 3, 2020.

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Who did/do you plan on voting for president?

  1. Joe Biden

    7.4%
  2. Donald Trump

    74.1%
  3. Jo Jorgensen

    7.4%
  4. None of the above

    11.1%
  1. TomIron361

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    This is not about, and hasn't been about which maggot got elected. The time is now to lock and load ([we should have a revolution every twenty years or so] - Thomas Jefferson). The Dems will do things now to start the conflict. They're not going to be happy they won. They're going to want revenge. So forget about the system that is in place now. This Republic has been dead for some years now.
     
  2. Kaptain

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    This hope in lawsuits overturning the election and an intelligence sting operation exposing massive fraud is just more QANON bs. Q is likely a intell run operation to keep the populous hopeful and patient for Don's 4D chess which never ever comes to checkmate. He's been wrong every step of the way. It's always been a somewhat unprincipled but uncontrolled Trump vs just the people. He's got no secret police working for him. If you think judges and an intelligence sting is going to turn this around then you just have been keeping score the last few years. Even the 6 conservatives on the Supreme Court couldn't do anything and since 4 of the 6 are pretty liberal anyway they simply won't do anything. The new Judge has already recused herself Jeff Sessions style from the first election decision. She'll recuse herself from all election decisions. We are all by ourselves and have always been. Trump will be thrown in jail soon unless he completely capitulates. I think even if he does capitulate he will be jailed. The people who run this country and world are the "Never Forgive, Never Forget" folks. Show trials followed by forced confessions followed by show punishments is what we are in store for. A national strike by our blue collar law enforcement and regular military is our only hope. The chances of that are extremely slim.
     
  3. Leonardfan

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    This is what I have resigned myself too. The useful idiots number too many, the media and big tech have clamped down on dissent and free thought.

    Donald Trump Jr. has now stated they should declassify everything - I'd love for that to happen. Just expose it all - burn it down on the way out. We are on our own - 70+ million together but alone - all of us have varying degrees of awareness on to what is going on but at least we know.
     
  4. Kaptain

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    Will our media even share anything that is declassified? Will the rabid anti-Trumpers even care what evils they find out? They have Hunter Biden's laptop with all this slime you could possibly imagine on it right now. Not only is there no prosecutions, there is no interest from the rabid Biden voting Bolsheviks. At this point they wouldn't care if Biden and Kamala were on film beheading babies - and I'm not kidding. They wouldn't care and judges and intelligence community sure as heck wouldn't care.
     
  5. Leonardfan

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    Alternative media exists so if anything were to be shared it would get out. I totally agree with you though - the Bolsheviks in this country are some of the biggest morons in human history. They are totally deranged and unable to think for themselves. They think they have achieved some moral victory when in fact we have accelerated our flush down the immoral shitter.
     
  6. Warhawk_46

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    He should declassify EVERYTHING and let the chips fall where they may. The Republic is lost and war is inevitable. Let it all out and people can chose what side they will stand on.

    It would be highly prudent to split the country in half - blue on one side, red on the other. In all honesty, there is no middle ground any longer. The proverbial line in the sand has been drawn.

    While I truly wish this could be done peacefully, we all know that won’t be the case. But is is time to face the facts that the country is torn apart and beyond healing together. Only strengthening apart.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    So everyone that lives in a "blue" state has to move to a "red" state and vice versa? Will we don blue uniforms and red uniforms and duke it out? Good luck with that scenario. I've yet to see a single advocate of "civil war" present even a semi-realistic scenario.

    Unfortunately one side is composed of dedicated revolutionaries, the other with philosphers.

    Don't mean to be rude, but for my entire life I've heard the same bs. One side acts, the other side reacts and does nothing while hoping for an intervention by Providence.
     
  8. Freethinker

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    If anything were to happen, it would be urban vs rural with the suburbs being in the middle.

    I’m predicting and advocating for balkanization. Hopefully, in time, regions can break away. Need economic collapse and /or total discrediting of the federal government. These election fraud lawsuits are a good first step.
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Fine, but how exactly? The White side is filled with fantasy scenarios while our country has been subverted for generations. The federal government was discredited long ago among Americans who think like us, I will be glad to send you proof if you want it. Those on "our side" have been saying it for a long time. Do you think the corporate media and Big Tech care if we say they are "discredited"? The only thing that counts is power and we have none and they have it all.

    The endless problem is that we are full of talk and bluster but when it comes to organized, intelligent action, we are pathetic.
     
  10. Leonardfan

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    I totally agree with the Urban/Rural disconnect. There are very few actual blue states but the cities in most states with the population dictate the direction of the country - this is why we are seeing all the fraud going on in red states with large corrupt democratic cities wielding all the power.
     
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    I hear you Don and I understand that you’ve seen this play out for decades with very few waking up.

    However, what I’m seeing now is unprecedented. For example my normie boomer-conservative parents, in-laws and neighbors all think the election was stolen. They have never questioned the legitimacy of the US government ever in their lives. I’d imagine that out of the 70 million that voted for Trump, the vast majority feel the same way. This energy needs to be harnessed. How exactly, I’m not sure, but that’s what needs to shake out from this mess.
     
  12. Don Wassall

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    That's the big issue, and why I zero in time and again on actual power, because that's the only thing that matters in this decadent empire. If you aren't thinking in terms of translating that energy -- which exists and is awesome -- into real opposition against the forces that openly rule instead of falling back into traditional modes of fantasies, then the revolutionaries will continue to get their way.
     
  13. NWsoccerfan

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    We have no way to organize. They have implemented a series of safety nets so that if we do organize, they can squash it before it gets too big. Couple that with about 3 or 4 generations of brain washing and we literally have no chance. They've won. They own the media, the learning institutions and the corporations. For years our republican leaders did nothing about this rising threat and now it's too late. The wet dream of this election getting turned around is just that, a wet dream. They have the numbers now and that means republicans will probably never win another election again. Everywhere I look in youtube and social media it's the same thing....."just be patient, these evil elites are going to get exposed for what they are". No they won't. They are always a step ahead. I'm tired of all the BS. I've said on here multiple times that you all need to figure out an exit strategy or you'll be living in a far leftist country that gives preferential treatment to minorities.
     
  14. Don Wassall

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    I agree, but only because we sat on our collective asses for generations while "they" took over. Now it's too late, at least under present circumstances. It's pointless to blame it on a particular "generation" or anything else. "We" sat back wasting years and decades pontificating about how some "spark" was going to rouse White men into an instant revolutionary army, while the internal foes kept doing their thing.
     
  15. werewolf

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    You did your best.
     
  16. Don Wassall

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    Thanks man. That can't be gainsaid.

    In the mood I'm in tonight it reminds me of this song for some reason:

     
  17. CovidCrisis

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    We (right wing) didn't lose and they (left wing) didn't win. It's not that simple guys. In some ways, this result may be good for us, as it will accelerate society's crash. Real change will only come about in a crash or massive social collapse. Its going to take that for a real change to come about. This could be a war, mass economic depression, or other large scale social upheaval (ie Non existent marriage or birth rate, changing racial demographics).

    Nothing in life - in the entire history of humanity and the planet- is permanent, also people don't force change, circumstances force change . The Roman Empire at one time looked unbeatable. It may take 100 Years and it may take a majority non-White nation, but USA will also rock bottom and collapse at some point, I can guarantee you that. What rock bottom will look like is the real question, that is "How and When" but not "if". I will concede that currently in Developed Western countries (USA, UK and Commonwealth, Western Europe), leftists hold the power and have since WW1.

    Millions more of Americans now know what the score is, and will feel that this election was stolen. Progressive leftist policies of welfare will accelerate this nation's decline by increasing drug use, homelessness, and the racial and class divide. In the next 10 or 20 years, USA will likely become a non-White country and quite frankly in some respects that is a good thing, as non-White support for the right is trending positively (Trump lost this election because he lost White voters, he did the best a Republican has done with non-Whites in 60 years).

    Keep in mind that White people, over the past few generations have collectively voted themselves and the nation into this situation by supporting center of left policies consistently. The reality is that a changing racial demographic is probably better for the right long term than it is for the left. The fact that non-White Republican votes are consistently increasing parallels my comments.

    Let me preface this by saying this is not about race or ethnicity. This struggle is about Freedom VS Totalitarianism at its most basic level. Race, Gender, The Family Unit, Government involvement in Citizen's lives, Freedom of Speech/Censorship, Homosexual Agenda, Environmentalism are the fronts upon which this is being fought. There will be some big issues for USA in the next 50 or so years: Non-Whites becoming a majority, loss of purchasing power to China, India possibly Russia, Marriage and Birth rates in USA are the lowest they have been in recorded history that means there is going to be a lot of single non married adults, old people, no young people, and will need immigrants to supplement that. Women and men competing for the same wage that as the world becomes more globalised becomes less and less in USA. People incurring debts that will never be paid, and people living on endless borrowed money. Homelessness and recreational drug use become common everyday sights across all areas of the nation.

    Western Governments claim economic growth monthly but on the ground level, I see more poverty, homelessness, and reduced wages than ever before. I've seen nothing but a total decline in the overall standard of living in USA for the average person in the last 20 years especially. I'd venture to say this has been occurring since the 1970's.

    Any one of these issues could cause a massive social upheaval that will swing the pendulum the precise opposite way. I believe it is a question of "when" not "if" as Western Civilization's current trajectory is unsustainable.

    A reasonable man will protect himself, his property, and his family, but you do not have an obligation to help others or society in any meaningful capacity. That's actually the mistake Donald Trump made is that he was sincere in trying to "help out society". These people are not worth saving and the only thing that will help society is a crash.
     
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  18. Don Wassall

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    [QUOTE="CovidCrisis, post: 768410, member: 5395" Real change will only come about in a crash or massive social collapse.
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    Seriously? I've heard this all my life. A crash or massive social collapse is the last thing any thinking American should want. How do the "good guys" win in that scenario when they have zero political power?
     
  19. aalin

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    O ye, of little faith ! What's with all this defeatist attitude? Trump has it in the bag.

    The demons used hammer/scorecard to steal the election. https://twitter.com/NoAplogyPatriot/status/1325621436690657282
    MSM have taken their election day coverage offline. I wonder why ?

    hammer in action https://twitter.com/BlueSky_Report/status/1324910194111860738
    Every state with the DOMINION VOTING SYSTEM needs to have their votes recounted https://twitter.com/riggio_l/status/1325650330487545856
    More red flags for DOMINION https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1325622874946801665
    https://theamericanreport.org/2020/...ollusion-hoax-fearing-exposure-of-the-hammer/
    https://theamericanreport.org/2019/...f-trump-and-the-prosecution-of-general-flynn/
    Former NSA Senior Analyst Explains How The Hammer and the Scorecard Were Built To STEAL The Election! https://welovetrump.com/2020/11/08/...e-scorecard-were-built-to-steal-the-election/
    Georgia will go back to Trump https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1325622720021876737

    The Hammer and Scorecard smoking gun https://noqreport.com/2020/11/07/th...an-presidential-voters-didnt-vote-for-senate/
    Wow - the evidence keeps mounting - it’s not a glitch - it’s been programmed to flip votes https://twitter.com/AussieVal10/status/1324967866890809345


    Loads of evidence of stealing => https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyKlBk_MlPdxnD6-FzG2ThA/videos

    Stealing in Wisconsin => https://twitter.com/carriesheffield/status/1325527312541036544
    https://twitter.com/pepesgrandma/status/1325488473030193153
    The moment they stole Wisconsin around 4am => https://twitter.com/OffGuardian0/status/1324068628128555009
    Trump leading by 109k, then Pedo Joe leads by 11k. 120k just for him, in a state where Republicans requested and returned more mail-in ballots than demoncrats.
    https://twitter.com/ThAlMeArCrEq/status/1325209259718680576

    Stealing in Michigan => https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1325590569981276162
    detroit vote fraud scheme to steal michigan => https://streamable.com/6ispgo#
    Illegal Router Connecting Tabulation Machines To Internet Discovered In Michigan =>
    https://twitter.com/cherieberrys/status/1324484731862437888

    Stealing in Nevada => https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1325579296354803712

    Stealing in Arizona => https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1325226229532864512

    Benford proves election fraud => https://twitter.com/DatElefan/status/1324838425170595840

    As for Q, he said that all assets will be deployed against Trump, and that is exactly what is happening.
     
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  20. Kaptain

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    I'm afraid that our last chance as a race/people was WW2. Jewish influenced war was brought to a racialized nationalist Germany who emerged by shedding the yoke of Jewish power. Their success was infectious and needed to be stopped so a World War came to their doorsteps. Though a relatively small country they came hairsplitting close to defeating the parasite that had infected and infiltrated the rest of the White World. They were only stopped by an unusually cold Russian winter. We have since not been allowed to a single nation with same energized racialized united people. As obvious as this fraud was our eternal enemy has figured out how to own the minds of half of our people. I've argued with these deracialized pathetic White liberals (friends, relatives) and thoroughly defeat them over and over again but I have not been able to convince a single person of changing their mind. In fact, they have all gotten more radical over the years. When I brought up how we would be paying for reparations years ago and all our wealth would be stolen, they laughed but now that they see it is actually happening as I have predicted they have decided that we as a people deserve it. These are people with little White children who admit that their kids will have to suffer for the greater good so that they can be better people. All of them are the classic elite educated liberal who live in safe suburban-like mostly White areas and are already or intending to send their kids to private school where there is plenty of diversity (upper class Asians and Indians). They could care less about blue collar White America even or especially their own relatives, friends, and their own children. They are selfish soulless people who are not completely unwittingly participating in the end game of their own children. I don't see a way out or an escape route. Nothing will convince these people to change their minds. We have to disengage from all of them. The election shows we still have substantial numbers that are more energized but less powerful than ever before. The only solution is to not participate in their world. Nationalize quietly from within and ostracize those who are not like minded. Our lives are all in for hardship, we must educate and prepare our children every single day in the hope that one day they can find a solution we haven't been able to. Sorry for the rant that is all over the place. I've had an incredibly difficult year. A recent family death directly related to the social cost of this fake Corona shutdown has got my mind spinning. I'm venting and trying to care about the future.
     
  21. Leonardfan

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    Sorry for your loss brother. I have had many of the same thoughts over the past 5 days. I've gone off on some crazy rants in this thread lol.

    I have a deep appreciation for this country based on it's original founding values, utmost respect and admiration for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. I have next to no respect for anything in this country from an historical perspective post WWII. Kennedy may have been a game changer but they blew his brains out. We are all living in one big psy-op - a total mind ****. Trump has helped exponentially grow the number of people who are aware that this is going on and that is a great thing.

    I think we can break down leftist whites fairly easily:

    My disdain and disgust for middle class/upper middle class whites is at an all time high. These are the people who don't question anything, base their lives on greed, lack of values, no appreciation for this country at all, materialism is their religion, saying how they listen to NPR like that is some sort of validation and went to the finest indoctrination centers...eerr I mean colleges and universities. Best thing is just to start calling them out on their ******** - asking them why they aren't volunteering, why they aren't giving there money to causes they supposedly believe in. These people are too smart for their own good. These are the bluepilled cucks.

    We have the baby boomers and their spawn who just vote democrat based on brand name association. They don't really delve into the policies, turn a blind eye to the violence and try to associate the democrats with Kennedy (still!). They are too stupid to realize Kennedy was opposed to communism. These are the morons who have been fed news and misinformation from the time when it was just ABC, NBC, CBS all the way through to present day where they can get their daily dose of indoctrination from the spin off cable channels of the parent stations. No critical thought from this lot. They have no idea what the long term end game is, they just go vote democrat down the ballot every election. The orange man bad wing of the democratic party.

    The third group of whites we have are the unhinged. Mostly younger, from broken homes, drugged up, indoctrinated through high school and brought up to be unhinged emotionally. These are the useful idiots out there protesting along with their POC allies to destroy anything white because it is the patriarchy. There are plenty of relics from the 1960s and 1970s subversive movements in this lot too. They are essentially radicalized communist jihadists - these are the ones who hate everything about Western Civilization (besides Marxism/Communism). They want to burn everything down - they are the ones that are targeting and vilifying white people, attacking the great institutions and history of this country. These are the **** heads we see out their destroying property, attacking innocent people and preaching an end to this country. These are the ungodly communists. They are doing the bidding of their masters because they simply are lost souls. Self-hating whites.


    As far as what happens next. The media and their masters have set this up as a win/win. Obvious, blatant voter fraud that has occurred which the MSM is not even acknowledging. 70+ million Americans who pay taxes and put trust in the system will be disenfranchised and pissed off...rightfully so. As far as I know everything is still boarded up so if somehow the legal process actually plays out in Trump's favor the MSM have done their job to radicalize even more of the useful idiots to come out and riot because they have been conditioned to think the election has been stolen. I have no doubt that if this is the case the protests will spread from cities into suburbs and smaller towns to attack white people whom they all identify as Trump supporters (if this happens the irony won't be lost on me when the third group of whites along with their POC allies attack the other two left groups I described above). If these riots and violence do occur - will the police stand down? will they protect the people who voted in support of law enforcement? will they just stand aside and let the people on the right thin the herd? I have no doubt that the citizens on the political right in this country have the guns, discipline and ability to make short work of the leftists if they are allowed to do so unfettered. The far left is far beyond any sort of civil discourse - they only understand and want violence. Another question is where is the US Military in all of this? Don't they have an oath to uphold the sanctity of the Constitution?

    Odds are nothing positive happens.
     
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  22. werewolf

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    Good posts.

    1945: The Year Zero.

    Good news compilation website:

    https://rense.com
     
  23. Warhawk_46

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    I can agree and disagree with several points in this thread.

    First off, no not a literal split in half... that is not going to happen. But when civil war comes (and it will, only question is when) how will it all shake out. There will be pockets of blue surrounded by red (just as things normally are now) whereby cities will be walled off (figuratively and possible literally).

    When this happens, the right would be wise to control the supply chains as that will cripple and suffocate the left faster than all out assault would. Starve them.

    Hell we have seen instances where truckers refused to deliver to the rioting cities already. And I’ll wager most trucker lean right.

    And yes, by and large conservatives are more talk than action. We’ve passively say by as our education system corrupted our youth for the last few generations.
    But I am also seeing a groundswell if support for conservative causes. 70 millions votes for Trump (way more than Biden actually got).

    Things have to get really, really bad for war to be in the plate. While over the last couple decades things have been getting progressively worse, I reckon we are at the precipice now; finally to the edge and to the point where enough is enough.
     
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    Trucker Strike in November...

    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com...d-be-another-nail-in-the-supply-chain-coffin/
     
  25. Warhawk_46

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    I work in Logistics and can assure all that, if push comes to shove, transportation is indeed the wheel that turns the economy.

    This confirms my thoughts.

    Hell, most grocery stores only carry three days of product.

    As in the medieval era where sieges were won primarily by starving out those behind the walls, the Right’s ability to control, at least a good portion of, the supply chain is powerful.
     

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