2010 Detroit Lions

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  1. Jack Lambert

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    It's nice to see Zack Follet given a fair oppurtunity to start. It looks like he's made the most of it. His racial apprenticeship appears to be over already.

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  2. jaxvid

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    I'm no expert but it seems to me the few white guys that play on defense, and most of them are linebackers, rack up a sh*tload of tackles. I think every team needs one hard working, over-achieving, blue-collar, non-stop motor, stiff-hipped, guy on defense. Someone has to make the tackles, not every black RB / receiver hightails it to the out-of-bounds line when they get the ball. Someone's got to make a tackle once in a while.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    White defensive players almost always rack up more tackles than their black counterparts, who get all kinds of acclaim for making the occasional big (flashy) play. Especially on the d-line, I've been checking the tackling totals more of late and most of these guys pale in comparison (pun intended) to the productivity and consistency of Whites.
     
  4. whiteathlete33

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    The Lions pick up John Wendling. From Rotoworld:

    Lions signed S John Wendling.
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    Wendling spent the offseason rehabbing a knee injury after contributing
    on special teams with the Bills for three years. If healthy, he could
    work his way into a similar role in Detroit.
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  5. celticdb15

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    If healthy, Wendling could be one of the biggest and most athletic safeties in the whole league.
     
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    Wendling is listed at strong safety behind the uber-talented duo of C.C. Brown and Ko Simpson. No way he could pass up those two, who are brimming with ultra-affleticism, wiggle, upside, and room-brightening smiles. If he really, really works hard, he might be able to fill up space on the field as a WSTD.[​IMG]
     
  7. Leonardfan

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    I do remember reading some where that the C.C. in C.C. Brown stood for "Can't Cover" [​IMG] I do hope Wendling sticks, he is a beast, can't believe the Bills let him go.
     
  8. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Detroit Lions:

    QB: 3 white QBs: 1 white starter
    All three of the Lions QBs are white. They have a lot invested in former 1st overall pick from last year- Matthew Stafford. Stafford showed some encouraging signs at the end of last year- and showed Favre like toughness- while playing through a shoulder injury in leading his team to a late season victory. Hopefully this team will pass the RACIST HATIEFUL BLACK BEARS in the NFC North. Veteran Shaun Hill has been a great fill in QB when he's played, but young Drew Stanton remains a work in progress IMO.

    RB: 0 white RBs
    Detroit has ZERO white RBs or FBs. I will mention that two Detroit RBs are in the league by merit. Jahvid Best was the best big play threat as a rusher in this year's draft and is a VERY exciting player with amazing instincts and vision as a runner and nice receiving skills. Best might not be able to be a 20+ carry a game workhorse back though. Best isn't as consistent as Gerhart at moving the chains and virtually never losing yards and ramming over tacklers in short yardage/goal line situations. Maurice Morris was a former 2nd round pick who is now 30 y.o, but he remains an efficient role player tailback. Kevin Smith took a huge step backwards last year and looked awful, but he'll probably remain in the league for years- based on his rookie season and top of the third round draft status. Aaron Brown is another example of a young, black RB- whom plenty of young white RBs would out produce if actually allowed on rosters.

    WR/ TE: 0 white WRs, 5 white TEs: 0 white starters
    Somehow the National Farce League manages to have a team with 4 white TEs on their roster- who are all BACKUPS lol. The team should be starting Tony Scheffler due to his elite receiving skills b/c he also does a solid job blocking. Scheffler seems to be underutilized no matter what team he's on. The Lions prefer to start Brandon Pettigrew- who they invested the 20th overall pick on in 2009- and is probably a better blocker than Scheffler despite not being as much an offensive threat. The Lions also have H-Back/ TE Richard Dickson- who looks to be a solid check down receiver, but he's on injured reserve. Dickson could also move to FB- or even run the ball in an emergency. The other white TEs are Jake Nordin (injured) and Will Heller. Rookie WR Tim Toone was practice squaded, but should have made this roster over the 4th string TE. Maybe next year, Toone will get a chance over a player like WR Stefan Logan (if he under performs as a returner)- or maybe a serviceable veteran like Bryant Johnson due to Toone's speed and upside. I'm not holding my breath though.

    OL: 5 white OL: 3 white starters:
    The Lions have the underrated veteran, Jeff Backus, starting at LT- they have 4 other white O-lineman including rookie OT Jason Fox from Thug U.

    DL: 1 white DL: 1 white starter
    Kyle Vanden Bosch has been to the Pro Bowl before as a DE, he is entering the later part of his prime, but is still very good and underrated. The Lions also drafted the hyped Ndamukong Suh, he's talented, but it remains to be seen if he will underperform. I somehow doubt he'll become a huge bust though, the way DeWayne Robertson and other overhyped black DTs have. The fans only remember white busts however.

    LB: 2 white LBs: 1 white starter
    Zach Follett somehow dropped to the 7th round last year (supposedly due to an injury history), but has played his way to a starting OLB job in just one year. I'm guessing he will become an average to above average starter. The Lions also picked up LB/TE Spencer Havner from the Packers who will be tried at LB.

    DB: 1 white DB: 0 white starters
    John Wendling is an amazing athlete with sub 4.5 speed, who can be seen on Youtube smoothly hurdling a 66 inch hurdle. He could work his way to playing time in Detroit as a SS- as C.C Brown is only solid, but FS looks to being manned down by 2nd round pick from 2009 Louis Delmas, who had a nice rookie season.

    Special Teams: 3 white players. Not much excitement talking about these positions, but veteran Jason Hanson has been in the league since 1992 and should make the HOF. With less and less whites making the HOF, even kickers making it have to give us CFers some appreciation.

    Detroit has 19 white men on the entire roster- and they have 6 white starters. They have only two white starters on defense and they have no white starters at any caste position.
    Grade: Fail
     
  9. backrow

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    Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, a coach for almost 40 years, calls DE Kyle Vanden Bosch "the best football player I've ever been around in my life."

    High praise for the former coordinator of Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, and Dale Carter. "Put on the tape and watch that [Week 1] game," said Cunningham. "It was the most unbelievable effort I've seen in 30 years of coaching by any position player ... It's about relentless downhill attitude." KVB racked up an unbelievable 11 solo tackles against the Bears.
    Source: Detroit News
     
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    Hey Gun, there areplenty of white defensive players all throughout America who have that same relentless drive, smarts, and physical skills. Too bad most of them never get past the High School level. They are weeded out by the recruiting "services" and then ignored by coaches and scouts. Your insurance agent, your realtor, your accountant, might have been great players, but hey, maybe in your mind it's a small price to pay in order to assure that a black temporarily is able to leave the ghetto.
     
  11. WHITE NOISE

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    That was a game the Lions should have won. I don't agree with the call in the end zone. Kyle Vanden Bosch is a super athletic beast! Didn't the Titans have him on their team?
     
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    Here's a link to that article:

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    Maybe Gunther Cunningham is a man who is occasionally driven to use a
    hyperbole, but that's not often the case.



    The Detroit Lions defensive coordinator gushed on Thursday when he
    talked about Kyle Vanden Bosch, the team's prized pickup in free agency.
    Vanden Bosch was all over the field in the Lions' season-opening loss
    at Chicago, finishing with 11 tackles. He chase running backs down
    across the field on screen passes and tackled wide receivers from behind
    downfield.




    "I've coached this game a long time and I've coached some really good
    players, I've been really fortunate and a few of them are in the Hall of
    Fame -- in fact, more than a few -- and I think this is the best football player I've ever been around in my life,'' Cunningham said,
    according to Tom "Killer"Â￾ Kowalski of
    MLive.com. "You can talk about stats and sacks, but put on the tape and
    watch that game. It's the most unbelievable effort I think I've ever
    seen in 30 years of coaching by any position player. Derrick Thomas had
    (seven sacks against Seattle), but it's not about the sacks, it's about
    the relentless attitude.




    "There was one play when he had three guys around (Bears receiver Devin
    Aromashodu) and couldn't get him to the ground. (Vanden Bosch) rushes
    the passer 10 yards up the field, they grabbed him and jerked him down,
    he rolled up and sprinted 30 yards downfield and killed the guy. That
    guy still hasn't practiced this week.
    I can't say enough about him. He's
    a gentleman, he's a professional.



    "After the game, I saw him by the bus and said, 'Kyle, here's the deal.
    You have to take some time off of practice. I can't get you out, you've
    got to do it.' And he looked at me point blank and said, 'Well, I can't
    do it either so I'm going to practice.' And he played 79 plays, which
    is unheard of.
    I don't know what else to add to that, other than I'm
    honored to be able to coach him.



    "I could go back through a list of players that I've coached, and
    they're all great, but I've never seen one like this. Ever."Â￾




    I was at Soldier Field for the game and Vanden Bosch was extremely
    impressive. Bears offensive linemen talked during the week before the
    game about him having the best motor in the league. They weren't
    kidding. Cunningham saw what they were talking about. Better than DT?
    Well, he was a ferocious edge rusher. Vanden Bosch clearly is the best
    defensive player the Lions have had in some time and he makes them
    instantly better.
     
  13. backrow

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    rotoworld:

    Lions signed LB Bobby Carpenter, formerly of the Dolphins.

    Carpenter, 27, is now on his fourth NFL team. The Lions are banged up at his position, but "Barbie" won't upgrade their annually flagging run defense.
    Source: Howard Balzer on Twitter
     
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    I think that Carpenter still has all of the potential in the world, but his time with the Cowboys must have damaged his psyche in profound ways. I watched him with the Fins, and although he displayed excellent speed and his physical gifts seem to be there, he played reserved, if you know what I mean. If he's going to ever break out, he needs to find the fire that he had at Ohio State and play the breakneck style that he used to. Otherwise, this might be his last stop.
     
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    Carpenters' story has bothered me for a while. He should be playing all out, and its a shame he isn't. I still don't think he has deserved the treatment he's received since his first NFL season.
     
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    he really sucked on STs for Dolphins. for a while i thought they were making him out to be a scapegoat, but damn, he missed some easy blocks. his head is not in the right place right now.
     
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    Zack Follett was put on IR. :(Edited by: backrow
     
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    I saw on ESPN that Vanden Bosch is out for the season. This sucks.
     
  19. referendum

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    Bobby Carpenter had nine tackles in the win over the Vikings, hopefully this solid performance will help to put him in the mix to be a key player next year.
     
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    Weenieworld notes an accomplishment by a White player as only Weenieworld can:

    Lions LT Jeff Backus has made 160 consecutive starts. It's a remarkable streak, especially when you consider that Backus annually grades out in the bottom third of left tackles. He's under contract through the 2011 season, but will be 34 years old in September. The Lions should be looking to develop an upgrade after Jason Fox flopped in his rookie year.
     
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    Congrats to Mr. Jeff Backus who has been an underrated lineman on an improved Lions squad!!

    Haha Jason Fox yet another overrated sumo. I think the big problem with a lot of the top defensive and offensive sumos throughout college is that they don't work as hard as some of their white counterparts. Think about it recent hyped white guys have lived up to the hype(Joe Thomas, Jake Long, Bryan Bulagahe's had rough patches buthas been as solid as you can expect from a rookie startingfor a playoff team. I predict both Anthony Castonzo and Gabe Carimi will start as rookies and do well.
     
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    Lions WLB Zack Follett (neck) is not expected to play football again.
    Follett admitted as much in an online video posted after he took undeserved potshots at Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler on a radio show. A seventh-round draft pick in 2009, Follett's career will end after 31 tackles and five starts.
    Source: MLive.com
     
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    And at 6-7, 310, he's almost "skinny", not a sumo.
     
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    WeenieWorld continues their assault on white players.

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    The Detroit News confirms that the Lions do not view Bobby Carpenter as a full-time starter at outside linebacker.
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    The Lions are well aware of Carpenter's limitations and
    it's not a coincidence that the 2006 first-round pick has been dumped by
    three separate teams already. They need to make outside linebacker a
    priority this offseason with Julian Peterson gone and Zach Follett
    (neck) in doubt.
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