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Regarding the Tanner Muse situation, sadly White people are often their own worst enemies.

Christian McCaffrey is a White athlete who's not afraid to stand up and fight for his rightful position on the field based on his skills. It'd be nice if he could give Tanner a pep talk.
 

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I wonder how long it will take the Jaguars to cut ties with this pedo perv:

Jaguars LB Telvin Smith was arrested in Jacksonville on Wednesday.
Smith was arrested and charged with "unlawful sexual activity with certain minors," per the Duval County Jail website. Slapped with an $88,000 fine for blowing off mini-camp and stepping away from football to "get his world in order" last year, Smith is still on Jacksonville's roster since he never officially filed his retirement papers through league offices. His bond was set at at $50,003.
 

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I wonder how long it will take the Jaguars to cut ties with this pedo perv:

Jaguars LB Telvin Smith was arrested in Jacksonville on Wednesday.
Smith was arrested and charged with "unlawful sexual activity with certain minors," per the Duval County Jail website. Slapped with an $88,000 fine for blowing off mini-camp and stepping away from football to "get his world in order" last year, Smith is still on Jacksonville's roster since he never officially filed his retirement papers through league offices. His bond was set at at $50,003.

Sounds like a good guy. Chiefs CB Breshaud Breeland was also recently arrested with 5 charges.
 

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But we all know both of these upstanding players will be treated with kid gloves in the justice system.
 

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I wonder how long it will take the Jaguars to cut ties with this pedo perv:

Jaguars LB Telvin Smith was arrested in Jacksonville on Wednesday.
Smith was arrested and charged with "unlawful sexual activity with certain minors," per the Duval County Jail website. Slapped with an $88,000 fine for blowing off mini-camp and stepping away from football to "get his world in order" last year, Smith is still on Jacksonville's roster since he never officially filed his retirement papers through league offices. His bond was set at at $50,003.
The sad thing is that since Telvin Smith is actually a good player he will most certainly be given a chance and a lot of money if he tries to come back to the NFL. The NFL coaches/GM’s don’t care if a black player has character issues, but if he was a white guy he’d probably get shunned from the league. That’s one of the dumbest charges I’ve seen a player get in recent memory. You’re a 29 year old multimillionaire and you choose to mess around with underage girls? What a ****** idiot, I’m sure they’ll forget about him quick when Joe Schobert tears it up again this year.
 

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Sounds like a good guy. Chiefs CB Breshaud Breeland was also recently arrested with 5 charges.

The Chiefs really love collecting turds! I still can't believe they drafted that afflete LB in the 2nd round. Easily one of the most despicable teams in the league.
 
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The Chiefs really love collecting turds! I still can't believe they drafted that afflete LB in the 2nd round. Easily one of the most despicable teams in the league.

Certain teams become known for "thug-friendly" locker rooms and attract more of the same. The Chiefs now are similar to the thug Bengals of 5-10 years ago. The Portland Trail Blazers (Jail Blazers) are another example.
 

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Certain teams become known for "thug-friendly" locker rooms and attract more of the same. The Chiefs now are similar to the thug Bengals of 5-10 years ago. The Portland Trail Blazers (Jail Blazers) are another example.
Just Fat Bastard at work. A cursory glance at the Chiefs draft and subsequent UDFA signings show 100% diversity.
 

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It's only a 1-year contract, at least. Guess they don't have THAT much faith in Crab Legs.

Good point. Off topic a bit, here's a XFL message board link regarding Cam Newton and, to a lesser extent, Jameis Winston. Think it might make some laugh, as even the DWF's are turning on these former #1 overall picks?

Link is below, keep in mind it's a very low traffic board -- even when the XFL season was in full swing.


https://xflboard.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2756&sid=1f5b327bc6635baa574c4f36b8d4f27b
 

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Andy Dalton officially released by the Bengals. Some team will get a quality number 2 and potential bridge starter in Dalton who I feel has been overlooked.
 

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Jabrill Peppers was constantly touted as some game changing, transcendtal, playmaking DB in college and leading up to the draft so I found Weenieworld's concession on him which I bolded to be quite humorous:

Giants exercised S Jabrill Peppers' fifth-year option for 2021.
The 25th overall pick in 2017, Peppers was part of the Giants' return for Odell Beckham last offseason. He appeared in 11 games with the G-Men his first season in New York before going on I.R. with a transverse process fracture in his back. Peppers has three career interceptions -- one each season -- with three forced fumbles and 13 pass breakups. He's a middle-of-the-pack starting safety.



Evan Engram was part of the most athletic/deepest TE class ever according to all the experts. That 2017 class that has been eclipsed by 5th rounder George Kittle. Engram is in no way a complete TE as he cannot block. He's essentially a big bodied WR.

Giants exercised TE Evan Engram's fifth-year option for 2021.
Engram has been a major health liability since being taken 23rd overall in 2017, missing 14-of-48 games, including eight last season and now coming off a dreaded Lisfranc injury. He was still in a walking boot at the beginning of March. Engram is no lock to be ready for Week 1 considering the state of the world we're in right now coupled with his rehab. When healthy Engram has been a very productive pass-catching tight end with a 153-1,766-12 line across 34 games with Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. He's a fantasy TE1 when on the field.

 

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Jabrill Peppers was constantly touted as some game changing, transcendtal, playmaking DB in college and leading up to the draft so I found Weenieworld's concession on him which I bolded to be quite humorous:

Giants exercised S Jabrill Peppers' fifth-year option for 2021.
The 25th overall pick in 2017, Peppers was part of the Giants' return for Odell Beckham last offseason. He appeared in 11 games with the G-Men his first season in New York before going on I.R. with a transverse process fracture in his back. Peppers has three career interceptions -- one each season -- with three forced fumbles and 13 pass breakups. He's a middle-of-the-pack starting safety.



Evan Engram was part of the most athletic/deepest TE class ever according to all the experts. That 2017 class that has been eclipsed by 5th rounder George Kittle. Engram is in no way a complete TE as he cannot block. He's essentially a big bodied WR.

Giants exercised TE Evan Engram's fifth-year option for 2021.
Engram has been a major health liability since being taken 23rd overall in 2017, missing 14-of-48 games, including eight last season and now coming off a dreaded Lisfranc injury. He was still in a walking boot at the beginning of March. Engram is no lock to be ready for Week 1 considering the state of the world we're in right now coupled with his rehab. When healthy Engram has been a very productive pass-catching tight end with a 153-1,766-12 line across 34 games with Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. He's a fantasy TE1 when on the field.

Ha! I knew Peppers would be a bust, well documented on this site. He was touted as being able to play "every position on Defense." Can't even hold down Safety! Bum!

Engram is classic boom bust prospect. Good example of what @Shadowlight is talking about regarding steroids. He looks roided to the gills. Perhaps the steroids are already breaking down his body, hence all the missed games! He's still a TE1 in fantasy though.. lol.
 

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Actually pretty excited for Dequoy. A virtual rookie camp has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard!

Washed up Ginn still being passed around The League! This is the type of weapons they add for Trubisky?!
 

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Tanner Muse will be wearing number 55. Looks like safety is not in the plan. I think he’s gonna look like a beast with that 55 though.
 

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Looks like Tanner Muse has been drinking the Caste kool-aid a little too much:

The Las Vegas Raiders decided to keep the pipeline from Clemson football hot as they drafted two more former Tigers in the 2020 NFL Draft. The team waited until the third round to select their first Clemson alumni and they chose linebacker Tanner Muse. He played safety in college, but the Raiders plan on using him as a linebacker. However, he plans to make his biggest impact on special teams.

“I see myself being a full core special teamer, just a special teams war daddy,” Muse said after getting drafted. “Getting to linebacker and sub packages, just being able to do everything I can, but mainly linebacker and special teamer.”

Saying things like “special teams war daddy” will quickly make Muse a fan favorite in Las Vegas. It appears to be a bit of a reach to take a specialist that early in the draft, but the Raiders clearly like him. Targeting Clemson talent worked out well for the team last season.

https://heavy.com/sports/2020/04/raiders-tanner-muse-special-teams/
Looks like Tanner has embraced the White Uncle Tom vibe. Good grief!! Yeah, broadcast you want to be a special teams war daddy! I have said before, we are our worst enemy. How does an elite White Athlete think this way!!!
 

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I just read an article on Carter Coughlin and found out he was high school teammates with Ryan Connelly, his new Giants teammate and fellow linebacker.
 

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I read Lance Zierlein's scouting report of Tanner Muse on NFL.com. This DWF "genius" calls him "slow footed," and says he has "below average agility. He say's that he can't stay with running backs and wide receivers. Muse's athletic testing showed these statements. are false. Muse ran a 4.41 40, which is faster than most running backs and wide receivers. He certainly can run with them and he sure isn't "slow footed." His 3 cone and short shuttle show he has very good agility.

The Zierleins of the world claim that all white men are slow, lack agility and lack athleticism. Video and athletic testing mean nothing to these people, if they're white they're automatically un-athletic to them and that's that. They perpetuate a negative, false stereotype of white men.
 

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There is one in every crowd. And I anticipate darts being thrown my way. And being written off as a groupie. Yes I am a charter member of the Tanner Muse fan club ( I think I saw member Extra Point's name on the masthead of a recent fan club letter) and I have my badge. Plus a bumper sticker and some Tanner buttons.

I think the idea of maturing white athletes acting like shrinking flowers and wallflowers is pretty much a thing of the past. Yes without any argument there are still crushing sociological and cultural barriers that prevent white athletes from rising to the top. Not to mention that horrible practice of development interruption of white athletes including of course slotting which starts at very early ages.

White athletes being hypnotized into thinking they are inferior is something they have to overcome on their way up but by the time they start succeeding in high school that type of thinking is being washed away these days. The days where someone like Pete Rose says that he is "pretty fast for a white guy" are effectively over.

The reason for that is budding white high school athletes and college athletes proudly boast about their abilities on Twitter now. Most athletes have Twitter accounts and you can bet the house if they run a fast 40 or 60 yard dash it will be posted predominantly on their Twitter page. Young white basketball, baseball and football players are using Twitter as a wonderful outlet to advertise themselves and this is a new phenomena that has exploded over the past five or more years. It certainly adds a different dimension to the way white athletes see themselves and any scan of their Twitter posts leave you no doubt they don't lack in confidence.

Of course the jury is still out as to whether Twitter has helped the cause of young white athletes but I feel it is a very positive development.

Of course Tanner has a Twitter account and one that is quite entertaining to boot. Recently he has awesome footage of Gorillas at play plus a clip of him pushing a car among other things while being cheered on by his parents.

Muse is very smart and that has been pointed out by many. While his comment about being a special teams demon strikes some as capitulation I see it as something a little different. Even I had mentioned his special teams potential before the draft so I am not surprised that initially that is where he is being penciled in at. But I don't believe we are looking at a ST lifer like the Cowboys Bill Bates. For starters Bates was not in the same athletic category as Muse. But like Bates I imagine Muse becoming an instant fan favorite because of his electric play.

I like unselfish players and in general I think whites are less selfish than black players. Think of the black WR divas who constantly bitch about touches. By being the first kid in the class to raise his hand as a special teams volunteer Tanner instantly ingratiated himself to his teammates. The extreme end of that spectrum would be to waltz into the locker room and tell the "black bitches" to get out of his way. That doesn't seem like a good approach. I should mention his best friend straight as an arrow DL Clelin Ferrell is on the Raiders too along with two other fellow Clemson players. So he is in a comfortable situation. Tanner even softened up the media with his opening special teams statement. They sort of like him all of a sudden.

Now the proof will be in the pudding. I consider him a defensive version of Taysom Hill. A crackerjack Swiss army knife defender who can play all over the field. And like Taysom he will be immensely popular. I don't want to put a timetable on when his defensive snaps will start coming but I also think Chiefs S Daniel Sorensen is another good touchstone for Tanner. Sure with his #55 number it screams linebacker but I think he will get to roam around a bit. About that number. Halfback Red Grange wore #77. Ha.



And as far as a defensive player changing positions? I have less of a problem with that than I do when they convert white running backs into fullbacks. Yes we are looking at a white safety deficit league ( and can empathize with that sentiment) but a certain player comes to mind who was switched from linebacker to defensive tackle in the NFL and ended up being one of my all time favorite players. I speak of the Cowboys Randy White. Now I am not suggesting Tanner will reach that rare air but I think we should allow Tanner some space and so far in his career he has come through. I highly anticipate him doing the same at the NFL level. Tanner a shrinking violet? I don't think so.
 

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I read Lance Zierlein's scouting report of Tanner Muse on NFL.com. This DWF "genius" calls him "slow footed," and says he has "below average agility. He say's that he can't stay with running backs and wide receivers. Muse's athletic testing showed these statements. are false. Muse ran a 4.41 40, which is faster than most running backs and wide receivers. He certainly can run with them and he sure isn't "slow footed." His 3 cone and short shuttle show he has very good agility.

The Zierleins of the world claim that all white men are slow, lack agility and lack athleticism. Video and athletic testing mean nothing to these people, if they're white they're automatically un-athletic to them and that's that. They perpetuate a negative, false stereotype of white men.
Yep it's no wonder half of the fans on the Saints message boards are saying Joe Bachie "is barely fast enough to play special teams" even after I pointed out that his measurables are better or similar to many good starting linebackers in the league and there are a couple of posters dissecting how good he is on tape. I know some are disgruntled blacks but many are dwfs that believe the hype of these supa affletes. Apparently the Saints are getting too White, some "fans" are saying Sean should be fired because he's "on some good ol boy **** and picking average friendly ass players" Apparently they should just draft all LSU players (not Burrow though because he supports Trump) and let Jameis take the reigns
 

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Yes, count me as a charter member of the Tanner Muse fan club. If he gets any kind of chance I think he will be a star in the NFL.
 

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Following the comments above regarding team message boards etc. it shows the internet is both a positive and a negative for white athletes.

The positives includes white athlete's individual Twitter accounts where they get to promote themselves and forward glowing scouting reports.

The negatives include these caste infected message boards and team media internet beat writers. The ugliness the Washington internet media has shown to safety Troy Apke is monumental. Black Redskins DBs who are clearly inferior to Apke receive a fraction of the criticism. Up until recent years safety Daniel Sorensen had to deal with constant slings and arrows from message boards and media "beat writers." And there are countless other examples over the past years as everyone here knows. Most white players can't escape this nasty phenomena.

It is sad to see it is open season for white athletes on the web. The caste reinforcement and sheer denigration of white athletes going on is truly disgusting and very unfair. The problem is how can this be addressed properly? This crap continues to flow unabated.
 
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