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I'd really like to see Williams "blooded" internationally by going to Europe for indoors next year. I think he could go 6.50 with a few races on the boards
 

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John Teeters is on the start list today at US Indoor Championships.
As far as I know, he hasn't run at all this year.
 

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from the IAAF page, he has run once this year
81 6.62 John TEETERS 19 MAY 1993
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6.61 from Teeters in the heats.
9th fastest qualifier.
Maybe he makes the final.
 

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I finally found a good video of the 2018 Mens 100 Meters Finals at the Australian National Championships. This
video is excellent and it has a full interview with Trae Willams at the end. Enjoy watching gentlemen.

 

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wonderful result in the women's deuce. The 17 year old Riley ran an A qualifier with sub 23 into a 1.7 wind. 20 year old Maddie Coates did a B qualifier while previosly unheralded 27 year old Larissa Pasternasky ran a PB for third and a B qualifier
1 Day, Riley QLD 22.93 -1.7
2 Coates, Maddison VIC 23.06 -1.7
3 Pasternatsky, Larissa NSW 23.27 -1.7
 

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Another great race with 2 B qualifiers into a 2.1.
3rd place just turned 18 years last month and bound for world juniors with 20.83 into that wind.

Finals men's 200:
1 Hartmann, Alexander QLD 20.57 -2.1
2 Millar, Joseph NZL 20.60 -2.1
3 Branco, Zane QLD 20.83 -2.1
 
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I finally found a good video of the 2018 Mens 100 Meters Finals at the Australian National Championships. This
video is excellent and it has a full interview with Trae Willams at the end. Enjoy watching gentlemen.

Williams has some insane leg development. That's a powerful runner right there. Looks like he could make one heck of a running back in the NFL!!!
 

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I've mentioned before the lack of commitment to a team that I've seen here in the past decade or so. We had 4 guys from my state and 4 from Queensland who would have battled one another to get a sub 39 4 x 100 mark.
Instead they all call up and cancel at last moment so 10.80s standard sprinters had to be used instead. Very disappointing to see 39 seconds turn into 40.45
 

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Ok this question is to my long time friend mastermulti. I always get excited for these young guys hoping that some of them
will become elite level sprinters on the world stage. In your opinion, who has the best chances to make it out of the top
3 or 4 male sprinters?

I always leaned towards Hale but lately have been a little more impressed with Rohan B. and T.Williams. Rohan has been
so consitant all year and still has a lot of upside left in him. The same could be said for Williams and Hale until he got hurt. If you had to rank them in order who would you pick as the numbers 1,2 and 3? I will await your response.
 

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I would like to add Josh Clarke to that mix because they're probably the basis of our relay team and he's done 10.15 .
My son-in-law (who has a 10.76 to his name, is a PT and follows sprints) thinks Clarke's style will always contribute to hamstring problems with some good efforts in between but they'll be a limiting factor on his career.
I still can't see Trae getting any faster - but then I never thought he'd better mid 10.20s either. He is still somewhat torn between accepting great offers from various football clubs which would see him earn a nice pay packet for several years.
Rohan to me has more muscle development to go and was a slower developer than Williams so I have no idea what he'll be like at 22/23. He does seem remarkably consistent and he has Andrew Murphy as coach, a man who was able to extend his own career till well into his 30s. He will have his uni degrees and a good profession so I can't see him being lured by a football code. He will forge his own living successfully - but will it be by prematurely halting his athletics goals?.
Hale has always been super speedy, says he's put on 5/6 kgs of muscle in the past year, but I've seen some inconsistency in him. I don't know what he intends to do in life other than track.

These are some thoughts - but I'd need a crystal ball to go any further than that. They are all young and young people change goals and ambitions to suit their means.
My guesses?
I wouldn't be surprised now if Williams gets a sub 10, having improved 0.13 since last year. 10.10 (+0.4) at sea level would indicate that is quite possible with perfect conditions even at this stage.
Rohan? Can he jump another level to those 10.10s for a starter?
Jack Hale??
 

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MM, question for you: Has the 5-6kgs of muscle made Jack Hale any faster this season? I have often felt the more muscle mass a person adds the more prone to injury they can become, or it actually slows them in the season they have put it on in. Maybe the rewards will be seen later on this season or next year. I also think the kid named Alex Hartman has huge upside as he was closing Clarke for third. Tall kid, long strides...good future ahead of him with the right coach.
 

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John Teeters down to 6.60 in the semis of the US Indoor Championships.
Good time, but not good enough to make the finals.
 

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John Teeters down to 6.60 in the semis of the US Indoor Championships.
Good time, but not good enough to make the finals.


There is a part of me that wish he ran in Europe. He has so much potential but it is so hard to make a team here. That can demoralize a lot of athletes. I hope he continues to compete. It would be a huge loss to see him give up athletics.
 

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I'd like him to finally get that sub-10.
He's been very close.
He'd be the 1st white American to do it.
 

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I'd like him to finally get that sub-10.
He's been very close.
He'd be the 1st white American to do it.


I agree. I'm like yourself one of his biggest fans. We need this for male white sprinters in the U.S. to
believe that they have a chance to be as good as anyone. I know in my mind they can but we don't have
enough participation to see more guys have a chance.

How many Curtis Goodwin types who could have possibly been elite give up the sport. It's looked at by
most whites like the 4 minute mile was over 60 years ago. It is possible but we need more participation. So
happy we have had a few American Women break through and I hoping a few American born male sprinters
can follow suit. Look to Japan, and China for inspiration as well as France and other countries. Lemaitre did it.
Guliyev did it. Teeters can do it but he is a far tougher setting psychologically. They have more moral support.
 

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MM, question for you: Has the 5-6kgs of muscle made Jack Hale any faster this season? I have often felt the more muscle mass a person adds the more prone to injury they can become, or it actually slows them in the season they have put it on in. Maybe the rewards will be seen later on this season or next year. I also think the kid named Alex Hartman has huge upside as he was closing Clarke for third. Tall kid, long strides...good future ahead of him with the right coach.

I know it sometimes takes a while to "grow into" more muscle. In some ways it makes sense that more muscle can be more movement restrictive. But, yes, he is better this season. Was very consistent till that final.
Alex Hartmann sees his event as 200 and I reckon he's now capable of high 20.30s with good conditions. His strong suit for me is a moving start for maybe 2nd leg on that relay, but he runs the bend well for a big man too. I forgot to add he's in the relay squad too so if Hale doesn't front Hartman can run as fast but not from a standing start.
 
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this is Hartmann's first sub 20.50 from 2 years ago when he was 22. He's a much more mature athlete now but his times have yet to show it. Over here we don't get as many opportunities to run electric times.
At nearly 6'6" and over 200 lbs he's a very big man.
I think it must take a while to get that bulk moving but 20.46 indicates some decent terminal speed



 
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Here's a name I don't recall. Blake Smith, 5th at USTAF indoor 60m, in a time of 6.54. Running unattached. It's a great time, but I'm sure it benefited from the altitude.

More impressed by Emily Sloan's performance, as she is still in HS.
 

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trackster, thanks for pointing out the name Blake Smith, as i wasn't familiar with him, either. he actually ran a 6.52 in the prelims. two other White sprinters i didn't know were actually in his heat, as seen in the video below.

 

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after some digging, i found out who those two other White sprinters running alongside Smith are.

Wayne Sherbahn, formerly of Indiana Tech, is trying to make a go of it as a professional sprinter after suffering a devastating hamstring injury and broken arm that cost him a lot of time during his collegiate eligibility (he's apparently finishing up a degree in criminal justice). He has a personal best of 10.25 (and a slightly windy 10.11) in the 100, and the 6.52 above is his new pr in the 60. He was a multiple-time All-American at the NAIA level of track and field.

the other athlete is Seth Boomsma, formerly a sprinter for Dakota State. he's also a multiple-time All-American at the NAIA level and has obviously not given up on the dream yet.

so, there you have three elite sprinters at the national level that all attended NAIA schools (Blake Smith went to Southeast Missouri).

Interestingly enough, Boomsma was by far the fastest of the trio in high school, clocking a (no wind indicated) 10.70 as a senior. Smith was recruited to college as a long jumper. Sherbahn's best-ever time in high school was only 11.09. I think there's something to learn there, for those who have eyes to see ...
 
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I hadn't noticed Blake Smith was competing, as I so focused on seeing what John Teeters would run.
Blake ran in this meet last year, and we mentioned him at the time.
Last year he missed the finals by 0.01.
This year he made the final and looked pretty good.
He's obviously improved. Let's see what he can do outdoors!
 
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