Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80! -- Part Two

Madara · Jun 9, 2016

RCSMAN said:
webb is a strange sprinteur !

19.85 then 20.62
9.94 then 10.18

pour moi la course de lemaitre est ni bonne ni mauvaise, il ne faut pas oublier les conditions (pluie et 12°c), et il fait 10.20 sans finish, car quand tu regardes le couloir 1 dans les 50 derniers mètres le mec fait même mieux que lemaitre c'est anormal. c'est sans aucun doute sa meilleur course de la saison, dans des bonnes conditions c'est un chrono qui vaut 10.12 - 10.13, il y'a beaucoup à gagner sur le finish donc wait and see

perso j'ai dis que j'espérais un chrono sous 10.20, c'est à peine ça mais bon...

ce qu'on peut lui reprocher c'est de courir à oslo un mois de juin alors qu'il court après les minimas, il y'avait de fortes chances qu'il y ait de mauvaises conditions et ça été le cas

Oui il peut finir mieux, mais il n'a pas besoin d'attendre fin juin début juillet pour arriver à avoir une deuxième partie de course... normalement début juin il est déjà en forme. Et puis la météo, Schippers à fait 21.93. J'espère qu'il fera comme l'année dernière, à réaliser un bon 100 pendant les championnats de France, mais j'en suis pas sur. Pas sur qu'il fasse les minimas pour Rio vu comme c'est partie.

elispeedster · Jun 9, 2016

fernchris55 said:
"His time has come and gone..."

There's always "keep hope alive" as this never-ending thread gives ample proof of. What will it take other than Lemaitre retiring eventually for us fan-boys to give it up and cease and desist.
And the REALLY important question is (drum roll please)...........
Who will have the last word in the endless feud. RCSMAN or Elispeedster???
Any one care to place a bet with bit coin?

Lemaitre should do either or....Give it up...or, for 1 year try something and someone different. He should put Caraz out of his mind.

elispeedster · Jun 9, 2016

At least Lemaitre has been a consistent 10.1-10.2 and 20.1-20.2 sprinter, I give him that..but .he could of been one of the best but decided a Old Coach's reputation and methods is more important. What a sad sack and waste of talent.

elispeedster · Jun 9, 2016

fernchris55 said:
"His time has come and gone..."

There's always "keep hope alive" as this never-ending thread gives ample proof of. What will it take other than Lemaitre retiring eventually for us fan-boys to give it up and cease and desist.
And the REALLY important question is (drum roll please)...........
Who will have the last word in the endless feud. RCSMAN or Elispeedster???
Any one care to place a bet with bit coin?

PS: I said it more than once I wish Lemaitre proves me wrong and I eat my words....I just dont see it happening as long as he sticks with the same BS.

RCSMAN · Jun 9, 2016

Madara said:
Oui il peut finir mieux, mais il n'a pas besoin d'attendre fin juin début juillet pour arriver à avoir une deuxième partie de course... normalement début juin il est déjà en forme. Et puis la météo, Schippers à fait 21.93. J'espère qu'il fera comme l'année dernière, à réaliser un bon 100 pendant les championnats de France, mais j'en suis pas sur. Pas sur qu'il fasse les minimas pour Rio vu comme c'est partie.

elle fait 21.93 mais regarde où sont les autres, très très loin derrière, c'est elle qui fait quelque chose de monstrueux, elle a peut être 21.7 dans les jambes en ce moment. Sur Lemaitre si tu regardes ces autres saisons il était en forme très très tardivement, en 2013, c'est aux mondiaux qu'il se révèle car sa saison avait été pourrie.

Quand aux conditions elle pèse fortement sur les performances, les muscles ne répondent pas du tout pareille à 28°c et à 12°c.

le mois de juin va être passionnant, on va très vite savoir car les meeting vont s'enchainer

Izwal · Jun 10, 2016

Madara · Jun 10, 2016

elispeedster said:
PS: I said it more than once I wish Lemaitre proves me wrong and I eat my words....I just dont see it happening as long as he sticks with the same BS.

Yes but if Lemaitre want to run sub 10.00, he can't be at 0.13 seconde of De Grasse.
In 2010-2011 Lemaitre was fast in end of Mai and all the season. In 2013 he did just one good race in 100.
Lemaitre has just Nancy on 200, after it will be French Championship, so maximum 2 100m before Amsterdam... And i think if he run just a 10.07 before Rio, he will not go in Olympique Games in 100m

fernchris55 · Jun 10, 2016

If I was him, with his stamina issues, I wouldn't waste my energy on the 100M. He would have trouble getting to the final even if he was his 2011 self. What's the point. His best bet to make a final is the 200M and 4 x 100 relay. My main horse for the 200M is Ramil Guliyev.
O.T....Schippers has the kind of upper body that Nancy boy Christophe probably dreams about.

Ambrose · Jun 11, 2016

sprintstar said:
Hi all! Longtime lurker here. Finally decided to join this wonderful site! I have followed Lemaitre's career for as long as he has been involved in track and I must say I am sad to see such a talented(clean) sprinter waste his talent. The problems I see are mainly his arms and his lack of speed endurance(he is gasping for air) in the last 2-3 years. I can say as a sprint coach for the last 10 years and a masters aged sprinter, he is definitely lacking proper training for speed endurance and after viewing many of his videos, interviews etc I have come to the conclusion he is quite immature mentally and pouts so much before and after races and especially while training. If any of the other members here are sprinters we all know that training is hard and is tedious but it needs to be done. Even though I believe Gatlin is a juicer I doubt you would evr hear him complain or pout about having to train.

Lemaitre needs to clean up his shoulders and arms, especially his left arm as he is actually pulling himself backwards with his left arm movements I do think his knee lift and leg extensions are fantastic in his drive and relax phases. Running in "B" level races or what others call club circuit is a waste of time as he is so much faster than the rest it inflates his sense of accomplishment. You cannot get faster in your mind running against inferior competition no matter the circumstances. He goes from dominating 1 week to getting his ass handed to him the next. His coach is to blame here as his training is inferior and he as a coach should not enter him into these B meets, what if he blows a hamstring or achilles in these meets and his season possibly his career is done? I hate to say it but unless he changes his priorities and seeks high quality coach and training he will never reach his true talent levels. To continually be supporting a coach who is a B level coach as a fan or as a world class sprinter is a travesty. Unless Lemaitre decides to make this much needed change he will never see his abundant natural talent come to fruition.

Cheers....

Welcome aboard. Good points, though I can't see him making these improvements while in France -and I can't see him leaving France.

greyghost · Jun 11, 2016

Having been saying for 6 yrs now ...Chris needs to train with vicaut ...or go abroad ........or indeed Chris may have an underlying health issue ....which may prevent him from doing a large amount of quality ,quantity work from September through January .......at this stage if he is not getting physically bigger I reckon there is something else wrong ....then again some athletes when not juicing don't really mature physically til mid late 20 s .....aka Paul hession , Gus hoegmood ....both these lads were weak looking til their mid 20 s ...but changes in coaches brought them results ...what Chris needs is a couple of months with rana reider or Dan Pfaff .....

jacknyc · Jun 11, 2016

It ain't going to happen.
Lemaitre isn't going to change coaches; he isn't going to change how he trains; and he isn't going to change where he trains.
It's completely useless to have this endless discussion about him, because he isn't going to change!
And consequently, he is Never going to improve!
He is DONE!

RCSMAN · Jun 12, 2016

jacknyc said:
It ain't going to happen.
Lemaitre isn't going to change coaches; he isn't going to change how he trains; and he isn't going to change where he trains.
It's completely useless to have this endless discussion about him, because he isn't going to change!
And consequently, he is Never going to improve!
He is DONE!

there are a lot of fortune teller here

elispeedster · Jun 12, 2016

jacknyc said:
It ain't going to happen.
Lemaitre isn't going to change coaches; he isn't going to change how he trains; and he isn't going to change where he trains.
It's completely useless to have this endless discussion about him, because he isn't going to change!
And consequently, he is Never going to improve!
He is DONE!

RCSMAN said:
there are a lot of fortune teller here

rcsman lives in a alternate universe

RCSMAN · Jun 12, 2016

Christophe will run in Nancy !

conditions very bad again

rain and 15°c/59°F)

I hope sub 20.30

white lightning · Jun 12, 2016

RCSMAN said:
Christophe will run in Nancy !

conditions very bad again rain and 15°c/59°F)

I hope sub 20.30

Thanks for the update but he would be better off to wait for a different race with warmer weather.

fernchris55 · Jun 12, 2016

"Christophe will run in Nancy !"
And to think I had just called him a Nancy boy.

RCSMAN · Jun 12, 2016

white lightning said:
Thanks for the update but he would be better off to wait for a different race with warmer weather.

"to wait for a different race with warmer weather"

WHEN ?

I think Christophe needs to run.
It's the last race before french championship

FootballDad · Jun 12, 2016

RCSMAN said:
"to wait for a different race with warmer weather"

WHEN ?

I think Christophe needs to run.
It's the last race before french championship

I thought I would post here as this is a rare time that I agree with RCSMAN. Christophe needs all of the running he can get.

RCSMAN · Jun 13, 2016

LEMAITRE Christophe FRA PB 19''80 - SB 20''27
SKYERS Roberto CUB PB 20''02 - SB 20''42
ZEZE Mickael Meba FRA PB 20''49 - SB 20''49
HADNOT Edward USA PB 20''49 - SB 20''58
JAMMEH Adama GAM PB 20''58 - SB 20''58
JOHN Jeffrey FRA PB 20''38 - SB 20''70
LEHATA Mosito LES PB 20''36 - SB 20''88
RAGGUI Brahim FRA PB 21''27 - SB 21''15

Christophe should win this race

sprintstar · Jun 13, 2016

if Lemaitre does not win or at the very least finish 2nd, it will be strong indicator it is time to change coaching, environment,training or retire as he will no longer be competitive in the top echelon of sprinters......very sad but very true. As a Lemaitre fan I hope he will win but I doubt it very much...

Madara · Jun 13, 2016

RCSMAN said:
LEMAITRE Christophe FRA PB 19''80 - SB 20''27
SKYERS Roberto CUB PB 20''02 - SB 20''42
ZEZE Mickael Meba FRA PB 20''49 - SB 20''49
HADNOT Edward USA PB 20''49 - SB 20''58
JAMMEH Adama GAM PB 20''58 - SB 20''58
JOHN Jeffrey FRA PB 20''38 - SB 20''70
LEHATA Mosito LES PB 20''36 - SB 20''88
RAGGUI Brahim FRA PB 21''27 - SB 21''15

Christophe should win this race

He must win*

fernchris55 · Jun 13, 2016

Hey hey! Let's be reasonable. His career going forward and this season don't hinge on this one race or any other single race outside of the ones that really count. How he does in his nationals, European, and World championships is where he ultimately gets judged. He's been stagnating for 4+ years, but it's not like he's become some 10.2/20.4 non- world class runner. I wish he was what he isn't and all the "thinking and commenting positively" won't change a thing unless you wear a tin-foil hat

and communicate with Christophe's fast twitch fibers and lactic acid------telepathically.

sprintstar · Jun 13, 2016

quite simply if he does not run sub 10 100m and sub 20 200m he will not be competitive we all know this. With his current training and stamina levels how is he going to ever achieve these times again? I truly hope he turns things around but I seriously doubt it. In the 100m and 200m 3-4 years ago he was constantly in the finals of most major races he entered i.e. lanes 4-5-6 now he is constantly in lanes 1-2-7-8 a sure sign of his inability to hit the times he used to. I am afraid he is gonna get his ass handed to him on a platter in the European Championships and wont even make it past the quarter finals in Rio. In this upcoming race in Nancy he has the 2nd fastest time(sb) of a comparatively weak field. On paper he should win easily but I doubt he will. Like I said I am a big fan of his but it saddens me to see where he has gone to....

RCSMAN · Jun 13, 2016

sprintstar said:
quite simply if he run sub 10 100m and sub 20 200m he will not be competitive we all know this. With his current training and stamina levels how is he going to ever achieve these times again? I truly hope he turns things around but I seriously doubt it. In the 100m and 200m 3-4 years ago he was constantly in the finals of most major races he entered i.e. lanes 4-5-6 now he is constantly in lanes 1-2-7-8 a sure sign of his inability to hit the times he used to. I am afraid he is gonna get his ass handed to him on a platter in the European Championships and wont even make it past the quarter finals in Rio. Is this upcoming race in Nancy he has the 2nd fastest time(sb) of a comparatively weak field. On paper he should win easily but I doubrt he will. Like I said I am a big fan of his but it saddens me to see where he has gone to....

"Like I said I am a big fan of his..."

the haters are so funny ?

FootballDad · Jun 13, 2016

RCSMAN said:
"Like I said I am a big fan of his..."

the haters are so funny ?

There is NOT ONE poster on this site who is a "hater" of Christophe. There are many (myself included) who are disappointed at his lack of real progress since his amazing sub 10, sub 10 achievements, but we all root for him to succeed. We are not, however, Pollyanna-ish like yourself.

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