Jake Ellenberger

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Jake Ellenberger is ayoung fighter who is on the rise. He's a guy at 170 who can finish people. Looks like he'll get Shields next!!



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For all the fallout to UFC 129, including Jon Anik's views on Jake Ellenberger, listen to the latest ESPN UFC Podcast


Jake Ellenberger is ready to launch himself into title contendership by taking on Jake Shields.


Ellenberger is an underestimated force at welterweight, winning his last four fights since a UFC debut defeat to Carlos Condit, which in itself was controversial as Condit took home a split decision.


Blessed with a formidable wrestling base and knockout power in his hands, Ellenberger is fast becoming viewed as a potential champion of the future at the age of 26. Now he wants the UFC to give him the chance to shine against Shields, the man who failed so poorly in his title shot against Georges St-Pierre.


"I would love it. I would love that fight," Ellenberger told MMA Weekly Radio. "It's definitely up to the UFC, what they want to do, but yeah if I could pick who I fight it would definitely be [Jake Shields].


"I definitely still think Shields is on that [championship] level; he's a top guy. Fighting a guy like GSP, that's a tough feat in its own right, but Shields is still a top ten guy in the division. I'm ready, I really feel I'm ready."


Ellenberger knocked out Sean Pierson on just 17 days' notice at UFC 129, breaking his hand in the process, but the Nebraska native revealed surgery has gone well.


"I broke the fourth metacarpal in my left hand. Just had to get a quick little operation, but it went smooth. Should be back in training in six to eight weeks," he confirmed. Edited by: celticdb15
 

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Howard said:
Shields would tap Ellenberger.

...IF it went to the mat...yes. However, Ellenberger has the striking edge & solid wrestling. IF Jake could defend Sheild's shots (ala GSP) then he'd have a shot at the KO or decision.
 

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Ellenberger has improved greatly in the last two years due to more cross-training. He is also like eight years younger than Sheild's. I personally think Ellenberger would win due to the fact that Shield's last two preformances were unimpressive.
 

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I appreciate Howard's knowledge and analysis on MMA.

As for Ellenberger, best days are ahead for him. I'd say he would have a 40% chance to beat Shields.
On the rise for sure..
 

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On the UFC 123 live from Detroit tread he pretty much called everyone on this site a moron and said he was done with this site.Also he is well know to try to promote black fighters on this site, first was Paul Daley, and now he is trying to promote Ben Henderson.
 

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Howard also tried to play up the most overrated fighter in MMA - Cheick "the journeyman" Kongo.

But he should not be banned.

I really wish Ellenberger would fight someone like Alves next. I hate to see two great white fighters take each other out.

I also think Shields would beat Jake (but it would be close).Edited by: Liverlips
 

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Liverlips said:
Howard also tried to play up the most overrated fighter in MMA - Cheick "the journeyman" Kongo.


Howard also stated repeatedly that he was "rooting"Â￾ for Rashad Evans to beat Lyoto Machida. However, most of his seemingly "pro-black"Â￾ posts are actually related to gambling odds.
 

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I make money betting on fights. I am good, I have won myself and close friends here in Vegas thousands betting on fights. It's a second source of income for me. I called people morons out of frustration for a couple of guys putting words in my mouth. I accept the premise that White males are hated by the media and America, but I will not lie for a White fighter. Here is an example, Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the World. He is amazing and he would KO GSP. I am not going to lie and say GSP is better,if that gets me banned so be it. My MMA knowledge is excellent so if you value good MMA analysis you will keep me around.
 

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As far as Ellenberger goes watch his match against Carlos Eduardo Rocha. Ellenberger got a gift decision. Shields wins by submission, if in fact they fight. I think Ellenberger gets Rory McDonald next. McDonald is a future champ at 170.
 

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It's hard to say Silva's the best fighter in the world when he was dominated by Chael. I gave Elllenberger the last two rounds of that fight, also Rocha is a very talented up and coming fighter.
 

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I did'nt bet that one, but sometimes a small bet on a huge dog is not a bad idea. Edgar was +600 dog to Penn in their first fight...... Silva was hurt when he fought Sonnen and apparently on roids. Honestly Ellenberger does not deserve his own thread. Decent fighter,I bet on him against Pierson, easy winner, but he does not deserve own thread.
 

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"Silva was hurt when he fought Sonnen."

He claimed he was hurt with bruised ribs. But that had nothing to do with his inability to stop even one Sonnen takedown. Nor did it explain why Sonnen knocked Silva down several times with punches to the face. Silva was very lucky to keep his belt that night.

Unfortunately, I do have to agree on the GSP-Silva match. Silva would probably be just too big. Though you can make a case that GSP could maybe keep taking Silva down and employ a lay and pray for 5 rounds.

If Sonnen can get his legal troubles behind him I would pick him to beat Silva in a rematch.
 

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Howard said:
I did'nt bet that one, but sometimes a small bet on a huge dog is not a bad idea. Edgar was +600 dog to Penn in their first fight...... Silva was hurt when he fought Sonnen and apparently on roids. Honestly Ellenberger does not deserve his own thread. Decent fighter,I bet on him against Pierson, easy winner, but he does not deserve own thread.

I can make a thread about anyone I want. Just because Ellenberger hasn't won you any money yet, doesn't mean you should disrespect him as a fighter. Welterweight needs some new blood and Ellenberger will have his shot to show what he can do. He's young, he has power, and he's a solid wrestler and he competes in the UFC with a winning record.What else does he need to make him "worthy" of a thread?
 

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I bet on Ellenberger to beat Pierson, that along with Machida were my easiest 2 wins.

As far as being worthy of a thread, I guess you are free to do what you want. But he has yet to beat a top 10 welterweight in the UFC. He had a chance against Condit. If you want to create a thread about a young White prospect I would highly recommend Rory McDonald or Michael McDonald. They are both future champs. Rory is 21 and Michael is 20.Honestly they are the only 2 White prospects I have any faith in. Poirier too I guess.And Koch.

Silva had a horrible rib injury and that really affected him. A rematch with Sonnen would end with Sonnen being KO'd. The funny thing is that this is a black Vs. White fight where the black is better behaved than the White!

P.S. Jardine is a really tough guy, but the fact that fight against Mousasi was scored a draw was a disgrace. Mousasi jacked him up.
 

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Silva's dancing, taunting, and showboating in his fight against Maia was far worse, in my book, than Sonnen's trash talking. It's one thing to try to create some interest in a fight with some silly trash talk, which Sonnen was clearly trying to do. It's another thing to make a mockery of the sport, oneself, one's opponent, and the organization by acting in such a crude, unprofessional manner in the cage.
 

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Oh man Howard, just when I think you might gain some good traction on here you come out of left field with some suspect subjective stuff.
Not to disparage your knowledge and ability to win some money on betting MMA. More power to you dude.
Silva, perhaps the best p4p fighter, or one of the very best in the world no doubt.
He went through a jerky punk thing a year or so ago. He was acting like a total jacka$$ and Dana White must have had a chat with him after his debacle in Dubai.

I'd say he he toned down his antics a bit since then. Sonnen humbled him a bit and regardless of what you may think of Sonnen, perhaps I'm still looking forward to him having another shot and beating Silva.

Silva is insane great, yes. Although I'd love to see a White fighter beat him. Maybe I'm being a tad biased here

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Will this happen sometime soon? Maybe, maybe not. Sonnen was a minute and a half away from doing so though.
Rib injury?
Everyone's getting injured lately; cnnsi has a interesting article hypothesizing that it's mostly due to the insane, high intensity training everyone's doing to be at peak come fight time.

Perhaps lots of training and less in ring competition fighting going on they think.
I'd say there is something to that.

Back in the infant days of UFC, they used to fight 3 or 4 times a night during the gimmick tournaments.
Or at least once every couple of months...more of a sideshow feel to it back then.
The hype machine is starting to take over the in ring action now.

Howard, you state some interesting stuff and I can respect your stone cold objectivity. Although there are definitely many top notch White fighters coming through the ranks.

Our guys will hold their own and you can win some money on them too.
Say when Carwin knocks out JDS - who I like btw. Good guy, good fighter.
I have no issue with JDS, but I doubt he beats Carwin.

we'll see
 

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Sonnen was recently convicted of money laundering and had his Oregon real estate license revoked. He recently had his fighter license revoked by California for perjury. Maybe he is part Jewish.
 

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Sonnen should be our Michael Vick.

By the way, what Rampage did in 2008 got him arrested and resulted in the miscarriage of a pregnant woman he almost hit with his truck. But because he is black this is all forgotten and he is deemed a fan favorite while Chael is vilified.

Talking about gift decisions, Rampage got gifts against Jardine, Henderson and Machida. He will likely lose to Hamill unless Matt gets screwed by the judges.

Oh, and don't believe the Silva rib injury nonsense. He got jacked and was looking for an excuse. Also, Sonnen has never been knocked out and how is Anderson going to knock him out from his back (where he was for 95% of the fight)?
 

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"P.S. Jardine is a really tough guy, but the fact that fight against Mousasi was scored a draw was a disgrace. Mousasi jacked him up."

Jardine won the first round and Mousasi has a point deduction so that was a 10-8 round. Gegard dominated the next two rounds and busted Jardine up but the fight was properly scored.
 

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Mousasi still needs to work on takedown defense. The horrible Mo Lawal somehow took his title with nothing but lay and pray (all 'King' Mo can do anyway. Keith took him down at will and Jardine is not really a wrestler.
 

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Joe Ellenberger, Jake's twin brother is making his return to MMA May 21. Joe is currently 10-0 he was an All-American wrestler at Nebraska and is a better wrestler than Jake. Joe has a two year layoff in 2009 due to a rare blood disease, however he has now been cleared to fight after doctors determined that it wasn't as bad as first reported.
 
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