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After the Hillis debacle the Broncos should think long and hard before they trade away another fan-favorite.
 

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I don't know what Elway's problem is. The fact remains that if Tebow were black he would have never said that. He would have said something like," He's a very good player who has unlimited upside." Elway is a prick.
 

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<h1>Elway insists he's not looking to trade Tebow</h1>
John Elway is barely into his first weekend as the Denver Broncos' new chief of football operations and already he's in damage-control mode.


Elway took to his Twitter account Saturday to deny speculation he would trade quarterback Tim Tebow.</span>


The fuss started when Peter King strongly implied on NBC that Elway
might trade Tebow to the team that hires former Broncos coach Josh
McDaniels as offensive co-ordinator.


Elway has said on several occasions since being hired as the Broncos'
new vice-president of football operations that Tebow is a good football
player, but he has to become a good quarterback.

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</td></tr></t></table>He's also said Tebow's famous work ethic will help
him make the transition and that the next Broncos coach should be as big
a believer in Tebow's promise as he is.</div>

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In response to King's report, Elway tweeted: "To clarify my thoughts
on Tim Tebow"¦ I think he's a very good football player, and if anyone
can turn themselves into a great QB, Tim can."


"Myself and our entire organization think very highly of him. We are
pleased with his first year as a Bronco," Elway added in a second tweet.


His third was his strongest yet: "Any speculation that the Denver Broncos are considering moving Tim is completely false."


Tebow, selected by McDaniels with the 25th pick in the NFL draft last
April, played only sparingly in goal-line or short-yardage situations
prior to McDaniels' firing Dec. 6.


Interim head coach Eric Studesville installed Tebow as his starter after Kyle Orton</span> sustained bruised ribs and endured two poor performances in a row.


Tebow went 1-2, rallying Denver from a 17-point halftime deficit to a
24-23 win over Houston and nearly pulling off a fourth-quarter comeback
against San Diego a week later in the season finale.


Elway said he was impressed with Tebow's play, especially considering
he had such a paltry number of practice snaps during the season and
threw just one pass until he supplanted Orton.


Tebow is the first NFL rookie quarterback since Minnesota's Fran
Tarkenton in 1961 to post four games with both a TD run and a TD pass.


"Tim Tebow is a darn good football player," Elway said at his
introductory news conference Wednesday. "What we have to make him is a
darn good quarterback and that is what we have to figure out.


"If there is anybody that is going to give himself a chance to be a
darn quarterback or a great quarterback it is going to be Tim Tebow
because that is how devoted he is to it and how important it is for him
to be a great football player," Elway added. "I want to tell you this:
he loves the Denver Broncos. I have had a chance to talk with him and he
is everything about what we like in a football player as a Denver
Bronco."


A three-time All-American, two-time national champion and Heisman
Trophy winner at Florida, Tebow has proven enormously popular in the
NFL, too. His jersey was the third-bestseller this season and he has a
number of national endorsements, including Jockey.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArQ4X0QmMfu6WcZSc6k2QkD.uLYF?slug=capress-fbn_broncos_elway_tebow-5600850
 

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I'm not understanding why he says that Tebow isn't yet a "darn good QB," he's just a rookie, of course he's not going to put up Manning or Brady numbers. Still Tebow in the few games he started played outstanding by any standard not just for a rookie, even posted a 300 yard game.
 

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i think Elway is simply out of his depth. i mean, there's a reason why he was never on TV... a great QB, doesn't necessarily mean a great and smart executive.
 

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I just don't understand why Elway doesn't shut the phuck up or at least drop the discussion altogether as this has been blown out of proportion. I want to see Tebow succeed and will follow him for sure next year. Sounds to me there may be some jealousy there to. Tebow is a nice looking Bronco stud that has all the females producing panty wads...and probably a few males too.
 

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Highlander said:
Could Elway possibly be a bit jealous?  He is highly revered in Denver
and along comes someone enormously popular like Tebow...

We have a winner!
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Off the Elway topic but there was an article in the paper about how Tebow was taking tons of cheap shots and his teammates had to pull guys off of him long after a tackle. It just said the extra cheap shots were "because of who he is" . It also mentioned how Chris Kuper has spent a ton of time talking to refs between plays about this stuff but still no flags thrown. Then it goes on about players yelling vile things to him and he would just respond with "god bless" and then a good play. Something about "there has always been trash talking and cheap shots in football, but defenders seem to take it up a notch against Tebow". Yeah no hatred towards strong white alpha males at all.....
 

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snow said:
Off the Elway topic but there was an article in the paper about how Tebow was taking tons of cheap shots and his teammates had to pull guys off of him long after a tackle. It just said the extra cheap shots were "because of who he is" . It also mentioned how Chris Kuper has spent a ton of time talking to refs between plays about this stuff but still no flags thrown. Then it goes on about players yelling vile things to him and he would just respond with "god bless" and then a good play. Something about "there has always been trash talking and cheap shots in football, but defenders seem to take it up a notch against Tebow". Yeah no hatred towards strong white alpha males at all.....

Do you have a link to the article?
 

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Ah the old jockeying for position to see who gets to be the token White guy allowed to be on a pedestal in the caste system rears it's head again. This is honestly why the caste system is so strong. Modern day field bosses shanking each other in the back to earn the praise of the cultural Marxist caste masters. Like Big Unreal said, the system doesn't like Tebow. John Elway doesn't like Tebow because he fears for his NFL legacy in Denver. What better way than to use the caste system to take shots at this young punk?

They've found every way imaginable to attack despite his success in college and now early success in the pros. He is the most scrutinized and reviled player in NFL history already by the caste media and that is saying a lot considering how White Quarterbacks are increasingly put through the ringer in their formative years in the NFL. Now they even have his own boss joining in the fray. What a league. The contrast to how Whites are treated in comparison to the love fest that Black players who show even a minute amount of ability is really striking to anyone who is willing to pay attention. It begins the minute their stocks start to mature in college football. White players have to fight and grind their whole collegiate career for their status, while a Black player, particularly a black quarterback can be fallen in love with because of a few good games late in his career. Even if he is a project, he is rarely spoken of in negative terms. His glowing upside is the most important feature to drive home. The same White guy is openly said to be a project and they will drive home his negative qualities ad nauseum so you it can be plainly understood that he just isn't that good yet so you don't get any funny ideas BY GOD! Then when they do get a shot LOL! We all know how that goes. For White players it is take your damn lumps, don't dare open your mouth and basically get berated in the media until they have run you out of the league or you defy their odds and become so good they have to stop calling out your deficiencies. For Blacks, especially black quarterbacks, we know what the score is. Develop, develop and develop some more under a media induced blackout of your failures, combined with a program of actively accentuating your positives until the time you do succeed and become a superstar or you suck so bad that they can no longer hide your failure and are forced to admit your faults.

It is a joke and why I can't support the NFL in good faith no matter what bones are occasionally thrown to our guys. It even makes it worse in my opinion, because it helps to hide the true nature of their cultural Marxist system. Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
snow said:
Off the Elway topic but there was an article in the paper about how Tebow was taking tons of cheap shots and his teammates had to pull guys off of him long after a tackle. It just said the extra cheap shots were "because of who he is" . It also mentioned how Chris Kuper has spent a ton of time talking to refs between plays about this stuff but still no flags thrown. Then it goes on about players yelling vile things to him and he would just respond with "god bless" and then a good play. Something about "there has always been trash talking and cheap shots in football, but defenders seem to take it up a notch against Tebow". Yeah no hatred towards strong white alpha males at all.....

Do you have a link to the article?

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_16969963

they mention Brian Cushing to make it seem like its not only black players. The picture on the actual newspaper has number 94 grabbing Tebows helmet and it looks like he is trying to break his neck.

Some things from the article:




NFL players have always talked trash, but defenders facing down Tebow may be taking things up a notch</span>"

There were a couple of things, maybe, that
were extra," Broncos interim coach Eric Studesville said, smiling, on
Wednesday. "

</span>Denver right tackle Ryan Harris said the
offensive line is "cognizant" that opponents might be coming after
Tebow, legally or illegally."</span>

Every time he crosses the line of
scrimmage, we know we need to be around him because people are going to
take cheap shots at him, because he's the quarterback and because of who
he is," Harris said.


Broncos linemen have been quick to pull players off a piled-on Tebow,
and even quicker to respond to defensive players who might be chirping
at him with some X-rated quip</span>Harris and right guard Chris Kuper, a team
captain, spent considerable time talking to the referees between plays
in Sunday's game against Houston. </span>But none of this â€" not the curse words
uttered in his direction or some extra pushing and shoving after plays â€"
is new to Tebow, long the target of opposing defenses because of his
playing style on the field and his pristine image off it."

They mentioned it as just pushing and shoving at the end but there seems to be more to it than that.
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I watched "Everything in Between" today. Never really followed Tebow, but after watching that, I wish I had. With his college resume, what was the problem. The "concern" about his throwing style was bull. Tebow will be a pro qb not only that, the guys a winner. Screw Elway.
 

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Tebow has been hated on by the MSM because he's an extremely athletic QB. Tebow was told he'd never succeed in the SEC and he'd have to change positions. 2 National Championships a Heisman trophy (should have been two, but they gave it to Bradford) and numerous collegiate and SEC records later the same BS was being said about Tebow as a pro. There's an awesome article about why the MSM wants Tebow to fail or never get a chance to succeed on this site but I can't find it right now, hopefully someone else will link to it.

I wonder why we don't see the same hate towards Cam Newton as Tim Tebow got, all I keep hearing is he's a sure 1st rounder (the same "expert's who predicted Tebow as a 4th round FB or TE) and that he's "more athletic" than Tebow, BS!
 

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Also, black athletes can "praise Jesus" and otherwise profess to be Christians and the Cultural Marxists ignore it. But when Tebowopenly acknowledges hisfaith-- and backs it up with the way he conducts himself off the field -- they are filled with irrational hatred.The Caste engineers hate Tebow's athleticism, his running ability and his Christianity.
 

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Also, black athletes can "praise Jesus" and otherwise profess to be Christians and the Cultural Marxists ignore it. But when Tebowopenly acknowledges hisfaith-- and backs it up with the way he conducts himself off the field -- they are filled with irrational hatred.The Caste engineers hate Tebow's athleticism, his running ability and his Christianity.


That is because they know those black athletes like to make it rain at a strip club, do drugs, breed numerous fatherless children, beat their wives and girlfriends, drive drunk, have street gang associations, and/or commit some sort of violent crime. In other words, they obviously aren't Christian so their "praise Jesus" remarks just contributes to the usual mockery of Christianity. Additionally, the mimed "Christianity" of black athletes helps make them appealing to the mega-church Evangelical DWFs. Tebow appears to have actual good character and nothing is more despised by the democratic egalitarian mind than virtue.
 

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With his college resume, what was the problem.


Aside from him being a class act with morals and being a throwback to the NFL players of the 1950's, the issue is simple. The media and marxists in the NFL have for the last few decades been trying to promote this Superman QB that can run and throw both. A hybrid between the QB and a RB. That style of QB has been black. Very very few black QB's can throw the ball really well, but they can run with it and prefer to run with it, that way they get all of the credit. It has long been promoted as "the future of the NFL" through the media with the obvious end goal of turning what's known as "the last white position" and like RB, WR and DB make it an exclusively black position.

What does that have to do with Tebow you ask? He's a legitimate dual threat QB. He can run and evade better than most RB's and he can accurately move the ball passing. He is legitimately everything they've spent nearly a decade trying to convince us Michael Vick is. He is a white male playing "da black mans qb style" better than they can and a threat that their little plan for the QB spot is backfiring. Tebow shows that you can try and make the QB position something else and the white players will simply adapt.

They fear if he succeeds the door will be swung open for the white dual threat QB. He's already edged it open and right behind him is Jake Locker who is an INCREDIBLE hybrid. Legit 4.4 speed, the size, elusive in the pocket like Rothlessberger, passes similar to Aaron Rodgers, incredible arm strength, the total package. If a team sits him for a season or two ala Aaron Rodgers and sharpens his ability into a precise package? There will be no stopping him.

When Tebow succeeds(Broncos new coach John Fox is said to be high on Tebow so he'll get a fair shot i'd say) then Locker succeeds? It won't bode well for the dual threat black quarterbacks. More and more young white males will be inspired into being that style of quarterback.
 

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QB Tim Tebow started the final
four games of his rookie year and while he's "a very good football
player," Broncos team executive John Elway said he's not "a very good
quarterback yet."
Elway told NFL Network that Kyle Orton would start if there was a game
today.
Elway didn't say Orton would open next season as the starter, just
that Tebow needs more experience and that quarterback will evaluated
along with all the other positions. <cite id="yui_3_2_0_16_1296740931328315">(Yahoo! Sports)


I hope Elway doesn't ruin Tebow's progression into a great QB. Orton is a solid QB but he will never (IMHO) be a franchise QB like Tebow has shown the potential to be. If Tebow is allowed to start and grow/mature for 2-3 years then he will be a great QB and be mentioned alongside Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees etc.

Hey Elway, how does Tebow gain the "experience" he needs without starting? Tebow sure as heck won't get the experience he "needs" watching with a clipboard...
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<h1>Broncos unlikely to bring Orton back</h1>


Here are some whispers we've been hearing from around the AFC:



"¢ Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway recently said it's not a sure thing that QB Kyle Orton</span> will be traded, but a PFW insider said it would be very tough to bring the veteran back. While QB Tim Tebow</span>
may not give the team the best chance to win, he does have the backing
of the fans in Denver. Elway has talked about reconnecting with the fans
and could lose some credibility by sticking with Orton. A daily team
observer said he gets the feeling that fans would rather win three or
four games with Tebow than six or seven with Orton.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Apu0b2yCX4CyVPwTO9MuFWn.uLYF?slug=pfw-20110207_broncos_unlikely_to_bring_orton_back

I pray that Denver will give Tebow the starting job and also the time he needs to be a great QB. If they do then Tebow will be a great QB and leading his team to a Super Bowl in 2-3 years, as long as they surround him with more talent on both sides of the ball.
 

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Mike Lombardi
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is one of the worst Caste clowns of them all. Is he reflecting the actual thinking of Broncos execs, or trying tohelp drivetheanti-Tebow spinhimself? Either way, it's a disgrace that anyone would degrade Tebow, the first round pick who played great in three games as a rookie starter after his abilities had been continually questioned and mocked. If any black QB had started off as well, he'd be the toast of Lombardi and the media.Absolutely disgraceful and racist, but so what is else is new? From Weenieworld:




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NFL Network's Michael Lombardi calls Tim Tebow "a man without much support in Denver" now that Josh McDaniels is gone. Most members of the pre-Elway regime in Denver are "looking to distance themselves from" the decision to draft Tebow last season. Lombardi calls quarterback "a huge need" and suggests game-manager Kyle Orton could remain the starter for another season. It's hard to believe the new regime has already turned the page on Tebow after his promising play in three late-season starts, but Lombardi is a trustworthy source. Tebow can no longer be considered a no-brainer as the future in Denver, much less the 2011 starter.
 

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"It's hard to believe the new regime has already turned the page on Tebow..."<div>
</div><div>Because they haven't. Tebow is going to be great in the NFL. Elway and Fox know this. He showed what he could do late last season, despite not getting practice reps during the course of the season. Michael Lombardi, as you stated, is a clown who is deliberately trying to bash Tebow. He doesn't like him. We here know why, even though Lombardi would never admit it.</div><div>
</div><div>Of course, after Lombardi is proven to be way off in his assessment that Tebow is done as the Broncos' QB, he will remain a "trustworthy source."</div>
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If TPTB thought the fans in Denver were mad when they turned on the old
regime after they foolishly benched and traded Hillis, wait until you
see how much they will turn on the new regime if their most popular
player (Tebow) doesn't get a chance after showing so much potential last
year. Tebow can't play in the NFL even after leading the greatest come
from behind victory in Denver's history. Yet that black WR/QB on the
Vikings who filled in after Favre's injury has all the "potential" in
the world while showing hardly any of the potential greatness of Tebow.
The Caste system is a JOKE!
 

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The caste system media and their enablers will do anything to try to bury and cause a "forced forget" of a great White athlete. It doesn't matter how hyped he may be coming out of college, or even what he's done in the NFL, if a White player is playing a caste position and the media doesn't want him there, they will do everything in their power to cover him up and make him invisible.
 

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Don Wassall said:
Lombardi calls quarterback "a huge need"[/b] and suggests game-manager Kyle Orton could remain the starter for another season. It's hard to believe the new regime has already turned the page on Tebow after his promising play in three late-season starts, but Lombardi is a trustworthy source. Tebow can no longer be considered a no-brainer as the future in Denver, much less the 2011 starter. [/i]</div>


How was Kyle Orton a "game manager"Â￾ this season?

Despite missing three games, Orton was still ranked tenth in total passing yardage during the 2010-2011 regular season. During Orton's time in Chicago (with possibly the worst receiving corps in the league at the time), yes, he was indeed a "game manager."Â￾ Mike Lombardi was merely frantic for any opportunity to demean white athletes.

Tim Tebow will shine"¦no matter how many white self-loathers and Zionist foot soldiers want him to crash and burn.
 

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Move over Happy Gilmore!

The Amazing Tebow's drive carries thegreen




Is there anything that Tim Tebow cannot do? National champion. Heisman Trophy winner. Mohel. Put him up against the IBM super computer on "Jeopardy!"Â￾ and I am taking the lefty.


Turns out we can add golfing to the list of things that he excels at. And this is getting annoying.


Tebow teamed with former Jets' LB Jason Taylor, Kenny G and Jack Nicklaus at the Honda Classic Pro-Am on Wednesday and apparently put on quite a show. Though he plays sparingly â€" a phrase that must thrill the average duffer who misses one week at the range only to watch his handicap triple â€" Tebow flexed his pipes and outdrove the 339-yard par-4 first hole. In fact, his drive landed on the green and rolled off according to Golfweek (via Yahoo! Devil Ball golf blog).


But don't despair, Tebow did three-putt for a par to prove that he is indeed human. And to be honest, it did make me feel a little bit better. Hopefully it humbled Tebow a little bit too, so he doesn't make a foolish run at professional golf when he retires like Jerry Rice. And that's an interesting question, head-to-head in golf, who do you have, Tebow or Rice?
http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/03/03/the-amazing-tebows-drive-carries-the-green/
 

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"John Elway not satisfied with Tim Tebow, wants to upgrade Broncos' quarterback position?"

There are some ridiculous articles being written about Tebow right now. John Elway hasn't said anything official except that "they will not trade Tebow" and the other statement is "he will compete for the starting job", but people are speculating that he will be traded and that they will draft a new qb

"Even if you, me and John Elway think the answer is no, can the Broncos keep Tebow out of the lineup?

In sports, where we cling to the naive belief that the best man should win, the competition for Denver's starting quarterback has turned into a political game, with everybody from the Broncos' website to Jockey advertising executives backing Tebow in a marketing campaign.

Sorry, Kyle Orton. The 20 touchdown passes you tossed last season don't count for much. In the hearts of Broncomaniacs, you're losing to Tebow by a landslide.

Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with a deeply religious, chaste NFL quarterback flashing a little skin on TV. If you've got the pecs, flaunt 'em,

Of course, I never understood why the United States Golf Association threw a puritanical fit a few years ago, when Natalie Gulbis released a calendar featuring her wearing a bikini and a smile.

But we all know there is a rigid double standard regarding sex in America. Tebow can exploit his hunkiness for fun and profit, then casually deflect any criticism by suggesting everybody wears underwear. When Gulbis gains fame and fortune from her cleavage, however, we're supposed to believe she demeans the game of golf and women in general?"

"So this is the key football and business question for the Broncos in 2011: Is the team more interested in winning games or pushing a Tebow product?"

Read more: Kiszla: Tebow on a streak as salesman, not QB - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17761622#ixzz1IVumN5dC
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How do they know Tebow won't win games? he was a freaking first round pick last year and played in 3 games his rookie season and shown flashes of being great. Orton didn't win, is it fair to toss him aside? no but if this is supposed to be about winning....He had a good stretch for the beginning for the Broncos and it went downhill. I think he would do better for another team but Tebow has more upside

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