2013 College Football Season Week 14

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Lynch is making his case for the Heisman Trophy tonight.

One passing touchdown, Two rushing touchdowns, and 200 yards rushing all in the first half.

I hope Carey understands the importance of those big numbers and doesn't yank Jordan midway through the third quarter like he has several times this year.
 

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Early in the 4th qtr...Jordan Lynch just broke his old record(316)...now has 321 yards rushing tonight! Leading 33-7 after the FG...He probably gets the rest of the night off!
 
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He can rush for 400 if they let him. I'm not sure how smart that would be, but it would be a pretty amazing stat.
 

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The media must stop Lynch or Manziel from winning the Heisman. Suddenly the "experts" have found a new golden boy to hype just in case the Winston rape thing blows up too soon. Andre Williams rb for Boston College is now being hyped. BC has lost several games and Williams averaged under 3 yards a carry in 2 of their loses. Winston and FSU play a schedule that looks easier than Northern Illinois schedule.

I remember why we were told Toby Gerhart shouldn't win the Heisman - too easy of a schedule in the PAC 10. This year we are told that Manziel can't win first because of his "off field problems" and now because of his 3 loses and look at the two the media has been in full tilt blitz to hype this year for the Heisman. First it was Mariota (PAC 10), then it was Winston (incredibly easy schedule and big time off field problems), and now from out of nowhere it is Andre Williams who competes in a weak division and whose team has several loses. Not to mention several sub-par performances by Andre Williams.

ESPN (representing those who control the media :tape2:) have ignored their own Nissan poll and have the list of: 1) Winston 2) Andre Williams 3) AJ McCarron 4) Johnny Manziel 5) Jordan Lynch. Strangely enough every so-called expert has the exact same list. There is no descent.

The Nissan poll taken by average folks on the internet have: 1) Manziel 2) Jordan Lynch. Amazing that people have actually voted that way even in the midst of the media blitz.
 

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ESPN Radio had it down to McCarron or Winston and were leaning toward Winston (of course). Lynch and Manziel are the best college football players in the country. They are also more athletic - in terms of speed, explosiveness, power - than any black quarterback. But I swear to God that Joey Galloway - ESPN announcer - gave Lynch the - "he's not the fastest guy on the field but he wins games ..." treatment earlier this year.
 

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Winston and Andre Williams both play in the easiest major conference in college football. Great point from the poster who stated that Gerhart was knocked due to the lack of competition in the PAC 10. With Winston's rape allegations hanging overhead I could see a dark horse like McCarron or Lynch surprise. McCarron is in a similar position to Winston as they both play on the best team in their conference yet Winston gets the magical negro black quarterback treatment and McCarron gets slighted with the "game manager" label.

Game Manager is yet another word we can throw into the caste dictionary, in recent years it has been used to degrade white QBs. I have yet to see it be used by any of the "experts" to describe a black quarterback.
 

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What's revealing and almost funny is the ESPN talking heads today are saying that their poll has Winston first and Andre Williams second. The only thing is their "poll" is not an open voter poll. It's a hand-picked media poll of so-called experts. If you try to find the Heisman poll on ESPN to vote on it is the Nissan poll - which has Manziel first and Jordan Lynch Second. That poll must be kept quiet by the talking heads.
 

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What's revealing and almost funny is the ESPN talking heads today are saying that their poll has Winston first and Andre Williams second. The only thing is their "poll" is not an open voter poll. It's a hand-picked media poll of so-called experts. If you try to find the Heisman poll on ESPN to vote on it is the Nissan poll - which has Manziel first and Jordan Lynch Second. That poll must be kept quiet by the talking heads.

The poll ESPN is referring to is the one taken by actual Heisman voters. The Nissan fan vote only counts for a single vote in the end.
 

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The poll ESPN is referring to is the one taken by actual Heisman voters. The Nissan fan vote only counts for a single vote in the end.

That's my point. Aren't the Heisman voters a select group of media types? Why doesn't ESPN advertise who the people think should win the Heisman? Shouldn't public opinion have a voice and affect the Heisman voters instead of the other way around. No, instead ESPN tells us repeatedly who the experts are choosing so as to affect public group think and NEVER tells us the results of people polls that don't fit the agenda. How many idiots at the office repeat word for word what some "expert" on ESPN tells them on matters that are supposed to be individual subjective opinion?

How do all the Heisman voters have Winston (a dna linked rapist) first? He plays a very weak schedule and has inferior numbers to Manziel and other QBs. AJ McCarron is undeafeted, so is Jordan Lynch. And now they all suddenly have the RB from Boston College as #2. His team has several loses and he himself had poor performances in at least a couple of those loses. How could all their individual subjective opinions be nearly same on something that is so subjective as choosing the best player in the country?
 

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David Fales and Derek Carr both with 6 tds in the FIRST half. Two serious qb prospects battling it out in san jose.
 

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Arkansas nearly knocked off LSU. Prepare for hype about LSU's freshman black quarterback who replaced an injured Mett.Hopefully Pitt knocks off Miami today.
 

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I said last year that Fales is the best QB in college football. He should be the #1 overall pick in the draft.
Instead, he will probably fall to the sixth round.

Arkansas had no real chance in that game. They have some of the worst defensive backs (and DB coach) in all of college football. I knew when LSU finally decided to start throwing it, the Razorbacks wouldn't stop them. If Bielema doesn't fire that assistant coach (Taver Johnson) and bring in some smarter defenders, they won't even match their win total of this season.
 

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Arkansas defense might actually be worse than Texas A&M's. They also made the ****ty QB from Florida look good.
 

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Arkansas defense might actually be worse than Texas A&M's. They also made the ****ty QB from Florida look good.

Last year, they were ranked #105 in pass efficiency defense. This year they're #102.
The only coach from last year that's on this year's staff? DB coach Taver Johnson.

The Arkansas DWF fans, though, completely blame QB Brandon Allen for the entire season.
 

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Abbrederis getting open effortlessly against Penn State but Stave keeps missing him on long throws. The announcers are complimenting Abbrederis, repeatedly talking about his "wonderful feel" for the field. They haven't dared to use the "S" word and likely won't no matter how many times Jared gets open deep.
 

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Veteran mangina announcer Mike Patrick did just mention Abbrederis' "track speed," so that was good to hear.

Maybe, like Dan Dingleberrydorf, Patrick is also getting ready to retire? :smile:
 

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And, like clockwork, there goes the racist caste-speak by ESPN.

"Zwinak... he's not gonna run away from anybody, but..."
 

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I said last year that Fales is the best QB in college football. He should be the #1 overall pick in the draft.
Instead, he will probably fall to the sixth round.

Arkansas had no real chance in that game. They have some of the worst defensive backs (and DB coach) in all of college football. I knew when LSU finally decided to start throwing it, the Razorbacks wouldn't stop them. If Bielema doesn't fire that assistant coach (Taver Johnson) and bring in some smarter defenders, they won't even match their win total of this season.

I agree on Fales. Really underrated QB.
 

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The Georgia backup QB Hutson Mason has lead the Bulldogs back to tie it against a tough (and dark) Georgia Tech squad. Mason is a junior and could be the predecessor to Murray. Considering the Bulldogs will still have Bennett and Douglas next season (maybe Lynch too?), they will still be a good SEC team to root for.

As for today's game, Bennett has a touchdown. Douglas only has 1 carry however! I'd still like to see em pull out the win in OT.
 

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Andre Williams: 9 carries 29 yards.

Oops. There goes that Heisman campaign.
Haha, against a lousy Syracuse team too. How could the media possibly hype up a guy on a mediocre team playing a weak ACC schedule? Never mind, don't answer that...

I see Penn St pulled off the big upset. Zwinak had a nice 61 yard run at the end. He busted up the middle and out ran everyone until he gased and the safety caught him. Not bad for a "slow" power back. Abbrederis finished with a game high 12 catches for 135 yards in the loss.
 

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Definitely do not want to see an all-black quarterback national championship game.
Alabama in trouble, though.
 
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