Zilina even has blacks

[Europe]

Zilina, a Slovakian team who played Chelsea in the CL, even scrounged up two Africans, one from Benin and one from Gambia of all places. Why do they have to scour the earth to get blacks to come to Europe? I am sure the Slovaks could enjoy watching their team without these two.

 

[accesscrimea]

Many East European teams have a black or two on their roster. This is because there are no leagues to speak of in Africa, so half decent African players have to come to Europe if they want to play. The very small number of elite African players go to Chelsea or Wigan (!) and then there is a larger number of OK players who try to find a job in the smaller European leagues.

 

[Rebajlo]

Polish clubs are packed to the gills with foreigners, many of whom are black.

In order to give You a little insight, let's use last night's Lech Poznan side which drew 3-3 with Juventus in the Europa League (which is as unlikely a result as You'll ever see, given that the pathologicallycorrupt and grossly mismanaged Polish clubs usually fail to make it even this far into the European competitions...

).

Lech, who are actually the reigning Polish "champions" (please understand that such a lofty term is applied in its strictesttechnical meaning

) fielded a starting eleven comprised of the following players:

4 Poles
2 Serbs
1 Bosnian
1 Belorussian
1 Latvian
1 Colombian (black)
1 Panamanian (black)

To top things off, a black from the Democratic Republic of Congo (i.e., Zaire) came on for the Bosnian for thefinal 10 minutes...

Mind You, Lech is practically the most "foreign" club in the league, but I'll give You a couple of more starting lineups from the last round of Ekstraklasa matches (11-12 September).

Jagiellonia Bialystok:

6 Poles
2 Lithuanians
2 Brazilians (both White)
1 Chilean (White)

A black Zimbabwean midfielder came on for one of the Poles for the final 5 minutes.

Wisla Krakow:

6 Poles
1 Slovak
1 Brazilian (black)
1 Bosnian
1 German (who is actually a Serb)
1 Argentinean

A Slovenian (Andraz Kirm, who You may remember from the World Cup) came on for one of the Poles in thesecond half.

Polonia Bytom:

6Poles
3 Slovaks
1 Czech
1 Zimbabwean (black)

Zaglebie Lubin:

6 Poles
1 Serb
1 Slovak
1 Colombian (mestizo)
1 Zimbabwean (black)
1 Senegalese (black)

A Nigerian (black, of course

) came on for one of the Poles for the final 5 minutes, while a Bosnian replaced another Pole midway through the second half.

 

[Europe]

Many East European teams have a black or two on their roster. This is because there are no leagues to speak of in Africa, so half decent African players have to come to Europe if they want to play. The very small number of elite African players go to Chelsea or Wigan (!) and then there is a larger number of OK players who try to find a job in the smaller European leagues.

I don't care if there are no leagues in Africa. That's their problem. They are taking spots from Europeans.

I saw that Braga of Portugal has 17 Brazilians on their team. They played Arsenal in the CL. I am so sick of Brazilians.

 

[Europe]

Polish clubs are packed to the gills with foreigners, many of whom are black.

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<div>In order to give You a little insight, let's use last night's Lech Poznan side which drew 3-3 with Juventus in the Europa League (which is as unlikely a result as You'll ever see, given that the pathologically corrupt and grossly mismanaged Polish clubs usually fail to make it even this far into the European competitions...

).</div>
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<div>Lech, who are actually the reigning Polish "champions" (please understand that such a lofty term is applied in its strictest technical meaning

) fielded a starting eleven comprised of the following players:</div>
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<div>4 Poles</div>
<div>2 Serbs</div>
<div>1 Bosnian</div>
<div>1 Belorussian</div>
<div>1 Latvian</div>
<div>1 Colombian (black)</div>
<div>1 Panamanian (black)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>To top things off, a black from the Democratic Republic of Congo (i.e., Zaire) came on for the Bosnian for the final 10 minutes...</div>
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<div>Mind You, Lech is practically the most "foreign" club in the league, but I'll give You a couple of more starting lineups from the last round of Ekstraklasa matches (11-12 September).</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Jagiellonia Bialystok:</div>
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<div>6 Poles</div>
<div>2 Lithuanians</div>
<div>2 Brazilians (both White)</div>
<div>1 Chilean (White)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>A black Zimbabwean midfielder came on for one of the Poles for the final 5 minutes.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Wisla Krakow:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>6 Poles</div>
<div>1 Slovak</div>
<div>1 Brazilian (black)</div>
<div>1 Bosnian</div>
<div>1 German (who is actually a Serb)</div>
<div>1 Argentinean</div>
<div> </div>
<div>A Slovenian (Andraz Kirm, who You may remember from the World Cup) came on for one of the Poles in the second half.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Polonia Bytom:</div>
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<div>6 Poles</div>
<div>3 Slovaks</div>
<div>1 Czech</div>
<div>1 Zimbabwean (black)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Zaglebie Lubin:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>6 Poles</div>
<div>1 Serb</div>
<div>1 Slovak</div>
<div>1 Colombian (mestizo)</div>
<div>1 Zimbabwean (black)</div>
<div>1 Senegalese (black)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>A Nigerian (black, of course

) came on for one of the Poles for the final 5 minutes, while a Bosnian replaced another Pole midway through the second half.</div>
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The funny thing is there are quite a few Poles playing in the UK. All of Europe is screwed up. Do you think that Poland,Slovakia, Czech republic and a couple of other smaller countries should combine and form a league with 3 divisions? They could have a bigger TV base for that as well. I don't know if that's a good idea or not.Of course,only have players from those countries in the league. Wasn't there talk about Portugal,Scotland and the Netherlands combining?

 

[Matra1]

Part of the motivation behind holding the WC in South Africa was to create more infrastructure for a stable league. FIFA have also talked about helping other African countries do the same. This might be won of those occasions when it would be a good thing for us if African 'empowerment' succeeded as it would mean fewer coming to Europe. But I doubt it will succeed. The football clubs will still bring them to Europe at a young age. The clubs are now just international corporations no different from Tyson chicken and Microsoft in that they don't care about their own nations.

 

[Borussia]

Sadly, the Eastern Euros will mostly follow the political and social trends from the 'advanced' Western Euro countries.
Corporate EPL and the africanization of the English game is a leading cultural and business example.
Yes, this is forced, but it does not matter for places that follow such as Poland.
Too many simpletons still think the best athletes are african/black.

I don't think scouts, owners, coaches and media people are rewarded for challenging their lunacy.
In fact, you likely lose a career in the mainstream for doing so.

 

[Rebajlo]

The funny thing is there are quite a few Poles playing in the UK. All of Europe is screwed up. Do you think that Poland,Slovakia, Czech republic and a couple of other smaller countries should combine and form a league with 3 divisions? They could have a bigger TV base for that as well. I don't know if that's a good idea or not.Of course,only have players from those countries in the league. Wasn't there talk about Portugal,Scotland and the Netherlands combining?

Europe - There are a few Poles in the U.K., most of whom are in the lower divisions of England. The Polish players in the Premier League are all reserve goalkeepers (Tomasz Kuszczak at United, Lukasz Fabianski and Wojciech Szczesny at Arsenal) with the exception of 18-year-old defender Filip Modelski who is in the West Ham reserves. The others (as far as I recall) are:

Radoslaw Majewski (midfielder) - Nottingham Forest
Tomasz Cywka (midfielder) - Derby County
Bartosz Bialkowski (reserve goalkeeper) - Southampton
Jakub Jesionkowski (reserve goalkeeper) - Swindon Town
Artur Krysiak (reserve goalkeeper) - Exeter City
Bartlomiej Fogler (reserve goalkeeper) - Crewe Alexandra

I guess that if we are ultra-strict in our definitions

we can also count Charlton Athletic striker Pawel Abbott, who was born in York to an English father and Polish mother and who briefly played for LKS Lodz andmade one appearance for the Polish U-21's (he is now 28 years old).

In Scotland, Dawid Kucharski (defender) and Adrian Mrowiec (defender/midfielder) are with Hearts, while Lukasz Zaluska is currently the reserve goalkeeper at Celtic, although he started the first two games. Artur Boruc was, of course, Celtic's first choice keeper for the last five seasons prior to signing with Fiorentina.

Being a traditionalist, I'm very much against the idea of transnational leagues, which would only serve to break down the validity (both cultural and sporting) of the notional participant's respective nationalcompetitions by removing the biggest clubs.

You mentioned talk about Portuguese, Dutch and Scottish clubs combining to form a transnational competition. This was the proposed "Atlantic League", which was bandied about in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when there was talk of Rangers and Celtic joining the Premier League.A number of the various Atlantic Leaguemodels mooted the inclusion of Belgian, Danish and Swedish clubs. The conceptresurfaced again a couple of years ago.

Returning to the subject of blacks and foreigners in Eastern Europe, here is the breakdown of the starting lineups fromlast night's two Polish Ekstraklasa matches.

Wisla Krakow:

4Poles
1 Serb
1 Slovak
1 Bosnian
1 German-born Serb (technically a German)
1 Argentinean
1 Brazilian (black)
1 Moroccan (Dutch-born)

A Slovenian replaced the Argentinean in the second half.

Korona Kielce:

5Poles
1 Slovak
2 Serbs
1 Bosnian
2 Brazilians (both black)

Lechia Gdansk:

6 Poles
1 Lithuanian
1 Latvian
1 Brazilian (black)
1 Ivorian (black)
1 "Frenchman" (You guessed it, black)

A Serb replaced the Ivorian in the second half.

Cracovia:

8 Poles
1 Slovak
1 Moldovan
1 Burundian (black)