WR Austin Collie

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  1. whiteathlete33

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    Collie is already have way there with 503 yards receiving so far this season. If he was a starter every game he would probably have 1,200 receiving yards on the season, barring injury of course.
     
  2. FootballDad

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    As expected, Collie will not play in this week's game against the Bengals, but is doing well, according to coach Caldwell. In the meantime, the Colts have activated Brandon Jamesfrom the practice squad. I didn't see anywhere in the story where they refer to James as a "stub", or "diminutive" or any of the other derogatory terms thrown around regularly at Danny Woodhead, who is bigger than this guy.
     
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    now that's an unexpected jewel from rotoworld:

    According to metrics from Football Outsiders, Pierre Garcon is on pace for the least effective season by a Colts receiver since 1999.

    Garcon's struggles with drops are no secret, but he's having a miserable season all-around. Garcon's catch percentage has fallen to 47, which is almost unheard of for a Peyton Manning receiver. He's also just 4-of-14 on third downs, with half of those targets coming on passes of just 2-7 yards. One could posit that Garcon is due for a strong finish, but Austin Collie is simply the superior player.
    Source: 18to88.com
     
  4. Don Wassall

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    The Colts are in the rare situation this season of struggling just to make the playoffs. They can't afford to keep starting Garcon. Watching Peyton Manning's body language after Garcon's innumerable drops and mistakes, it's clear he's thoroughly exasperated with him.
     
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    All the Colts need to do is look at their game film from the Broncos game when they had 9 whites on offense and were systematically dismantling the Broncos. The blueprint has already been established. When they went away from that, they lost at JAX, struggled against KAC and have simply not looked the same since.

    Tamme has done an admirable job replacing Dallas Clark. So, they need to go back to what worked. Manning, + 5 white OL, + Collie and Wayne on the outside, + Blair White on the slot, + Tamme as TE, and whichever RB is healthy. Only bring in Garcon at 4 receiver sets, or occasionally to replace White. If you move Garcon to #2, use him as a decoy and instead look to Collie/Wayne/Tamme for the big play.

    Imagine if Colts could have Toby Gerhart in the back-field. 10 white starters and they would undoubtedly dominate on offense, toying with any black defense they faced.
     
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    Problem with the Colts is they grabbed the wrong player from Mount Union. They should have gotten the BEST player on the team, not the "second" best. I'm sure that Nate Kmic would be a great NFL back.
     
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    Kmic would have been drafted if he was black. No doubt about it.
     
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    No question. He would be a great all-around player, guaranteed yardage and production with every touch. But instead we have "great" players like Le'Ron Mclain, Mike Bell, Joe McKnight, Mike Goodson, etc. etc. etc. Not to mention the Colts resident hands of stone, Pierre "Frenchman" Garcon.
     
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    It is almost a miracle that Danny Woodhead is actually being used in the NFL. I wished the same for Nate, but sadly it didn't happen. Nate Kmic was awesome to watch in college! I watched at least a dozen Mount Union games online when he was THE MAN. He's just one of the most recent in a tremendously long list of incredibly talented White athletes caste aside over the last 30 years.
     
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    Even the Colts' first round pick last year, RB Donald Brown, has looked very average at best, during those rare occasions when he isn't injured. The Colts are one of the few teams that generally draft well in the early rounds, but they look to have struck out with Brown and with this year's first round pick, DE Jerry Hughes. What, another black DL bust? Who'd a thunk it?
     
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    I tell ya, these GM's need to watch Rachel Maddow once in a while to get information on where to find good players!
     
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    Collie hasn't been ruled out of the New England game this weekend. If he returns to practice this week, he may play Sunday.

    With any luck, Collie, White, and Tamme will scorch the Patriots' defense"¦and Welker, Gronkowski, Edelman, and Woodhead will burn the Colts' defense. This is a potentially damaging game for the Caste System.
     
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    All these concussions for a player in only his 2nd season is NOT good. Collie is probably out for the season now. Concussions are like bendovers a person only has so many in the tank before they run out.
     
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    These concussions certainly worry me a lot. They could spell doom for his career if they continue. The amount of concussions in the league has gone up significantly. Hopefully Collie will be okay.
     
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    I can't recall Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne ever taking shots like Collie has just this season. Given that he's the best receiver on the team now, eclipsing the aging Wayne, the Colts need to move Collie outside if they want him to have a long and productive career. He's paid his dues going over the middle, time to pass that duty onto others.
     
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    Sad news, FootballDad. Not just for Collie and us, but the Colts as well. They will miss him, even though they will use Blair White and Jacob Tamme.
     
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    White skill players are targeted for cheap shots! I do not believe the hits are accidental. Seems like we suffer a much higher percentage of concussions than blacks, but I don't have statistics.

    The new emphasis on concussions wil probably thin our ranks even further.

    ShareretweetEmailPrintINDIANAPOLIS (AP)â€"Indianapolis Colts receiver Austin Collie(notes) is done for the season after he suffered a concussion Sunday against Jacksonville.

    Collie was placed on injured reserve Wednesday.

    The second-year player was injured late in the first half against Jacksonville when linebacker Daryl Smith(notes) appeared to hit him in the head with his forearm as Collie went low to make a catch. It is Collie's second concussion this season.
     
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    Oh, I noticed that to replace Collie's roster spot the Colts signed worthless over-the-hill safety Ken Hamlin. What a joke!
     
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    That is a joke. Looks like the Colts aren't too smart when it comes to defense. They just can't get it right, even with an elite QB like Peyton Manning being around for over a decade. If the Colts had a decent defense, they would have won at least two more Super Bowls during Manning's tenure.
     
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    Austin Collie is proof that White players are routinely targeted by black players who take cheap shots at them.

    If you really want to know who can't take shots to the head, you should ask all of the black opponents of the Klitschko brothers who have been knocked out by the superior speed, skill and strength of the White athlete.
     
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    also, Collie was probablyrushed back too soon. The longer you wait after a concussion the less likely another one will happen. The sooner you come back, the more likley you will get another one etc. His original injury was probably more severe than they led on.
     
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    Collie should try a different helmet next year like Clark did when he suffered from concussions early in his career.
     
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    Good points, JReb1 and snow.
     
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    [​IMG] Well stated!
     

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