Wladimir Klitschko vs Sam Peter II

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According to boxingtalk, Alexander Povetkin has been stripped of his mandatory status for failing to sign the contract to fight Wlad.

The IBF has instructed Wlad to fight the #2 IBF heavyweight Sam Peter.

I don't mind, I will be spared seeing Wlad destroy a very good white heavyweight. Wlad-Peter II should be a good one!
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Sam Peter again? He's not a legit opponent. Why won't Povetkin sign the contract? He was begging for the fight to happen a few years back.
 

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I guess Povetkin got the "willy worms" and bitched out. Too bad, now I will have to hold my breath until Wlad softens up Pete's mug, thereby forcing him to quit on his stool.
 

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Peter lost to Vitali Klitschko, then lost to Eddie Chambers, then beat 4 bums and now has another title shot. Welcome to affirmative action!
 

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Westside said:
I guess Povetkin got the "willy worms" and bitched out....


I don't believe that for a minute. Chance or no chance, everybody from the golden gloves on up wants a million dollar fight with the champ. If this is true - and I haven't seen anything substantial - only that P had a sinus infection and couldn't fly to a press conf. - Sounds like some more behind the scenes boxing gangster machinations, same reason Valuev and his team stood there with their thumbs in their mouths while the phony judges awarded the fight to the "British" negro, and the same reason V's team forgot about the rematch clause in the contract, and the same reason Briggs fell down in round one last night.
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To be perfectly fair Holyfield beat Valuev. Valuev could have beat Holyfield but he was simply lazy and didn't throw enough punches. Holyfield was robbed and I've said that many times on this board.

Haye is a different story. He's a real scumbag and the fact that Valuev was robbed in favor of this clown gets to me. The truth is old man Holyfield fought a much better fight against Valuev than Haye.
 

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Hell, for $10,000,000 I'd totally stand in the ring and let Wlad kick my a$$. I'd do it for $1,000,000 actually. I'd just make sure to go down and STAY down. I probably wouldn't have a choice, anyway.

When I woke up and got my head out of a cast, I'd be rich, so it would all be good. I don't think Povetkin is ducking. His chances of actually winning would be slim, but he'd at least have a chance. And he'd get bank, too. So why duck?

Now, Haye? That's ducking. That's duck-billed duckasaurus right there. Either Vlad or Vitali would go Vlad Dracul on his a@@ and make duck soup from his jiggabones.

"What's this, honey? It tastes kinda weak-sauce."

"Oh, it's David Haye chowder."
 

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Here is the best comment yet from a black guy on Boxrec. At least he claims to be black.

Povetkin aint wanted to fight the Klits for years and years now guys and
lets be honest he was neva winning that fight
either.


Excellent grammar!

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It's true Peter is getting a rematch. Will we get a pro wrestling style promotion where Peter shows up to a press conference with a witch doctor and starts sticking pins in a Wlad doll.....
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Otherwise this fight could be as boring as watching paint dry.....
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Here is Raphael....Klitschko-Peter rematch on Sept. 11

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By Dan Rafael
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Heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko's long overdue mandatory defense against Alexander Povetkin, scheduled for Sept. 11 in Germany, is off and Klitschko instead is making plans to face former titleholder Samuel Peter in a rematch on the same day, Klitschko manager Bernd Boente said Thursday.

The fight with Povetkin, who has been training in New Jersey, unraveled when he failed to attend Monday's announcement in Germany. Instead, Klitschko went through with the news conference and mocked Povetkin's absence by using a life-size cardboard cutout of him in his place and saying he was unsure if Povetkin would go through with a fight to which they'd already agreed.


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Povetkin's camp claimed the fighter had a sinus problem and would be unable to fly for 10 days. However, it is common knowledge in boxing circles that there has been a difference of opinion within the Povetkin camp about the fight; his promoters at Sauerland Event have pushed for the bout but Povetkin's management and trainer Teddy Atlas wanted to delay it, believing the fighter wasn't ready to face the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. Atlas is also the ringside analyst for ESPN2's "Friday Night Fights."

K2 Promotions, Klitschko's company, complained to the IBF about Povetkin missing the news conference because it had won the promotional rights to the fight with a purse bid of $8.313 million. With so much money on the line, K2 needed him there to promote the fight, which was to take place at the 55,000-seat Commerzbank Arena in Frankfurt.

The IBF sided with Klitschko (54-3, 48 KOs) and ordered him to begin negotiating with the next available contender, Peter. The former titleholder knocked Klitschko down three times but lost a decision in their 2005 title elimination fight in Atlantic City, N.J.

"The IBF ruled that Povetkin had violated its rules by failing to come to the press conference this past Monday," John Hornewer, Klitschko's attorney, told ESPN.com. "The IBF had told him he needed to attend based on his duty to provide reasonable promotional support to fight and he didn't get on the plane. Then the next day, he went to the doctor to get a doctor's excuse. The IBF has instructed us to begin negotiating with the next available contender."

Despite the doctor's note, the Klitschko camp noted that Povetkin (19-0, 14 KOs) was out and about last weekend, attending boxing cards in Newark, N.J., and Atlantic City.

"They were told beforehand that they had to be at the press conference to help promote the event," Boente said. "That was their obligation after the purse bid."

Klitschko was upset, saying at the news conference: "I am very disappointed that Povetkin did not show up. For two weeks, we have tried to force him to come. He could have shown that he is ready to fight me. It's the first time in my entire career that my opponent did not come to the press conference."

Sauerland Event did not respond to emails for comment. Atlas told ESPN.com he didn't think Povetkin was ready for the fight and had recommended against taking it.

"I think he deseves the chance to develop," Atlas said. "I'm in the middle of training this kid, which is obviously an important time in his life for the future of his career. I'm doing my job. I am not moved by the title fight and what the biggest fight is out there. My job is to do the best job I can for the fighter and to make sure he is the best he can be when he's in a situtation to fight, whether to fight Klitschko, Samuel Peter, [Tomasz] Adamek or Joe Shmoe.

"I am not controlled or dictated by anything other than that. I told him from the beginning I wanted more time. I was never really for the fight right now. Let me have more time with him. Does the mandatory dictate when he fights or do the circumstances of him having the best chance to win the fight?"

Atlas said he understands Povetkin is passing on a career-high payday of $2,078,250 -- his 25 percent cut of the purse bid. However, "I'm giving up money, too," Atlas said.

"I get 10 percent of that, but I decided the most important thing was to do what was the best for the fighter," Atlas said. "My judgment was is the fighter ready for this moment? My opinion was more time would be good."

K2 Promotions and ESPN are in talks for Klitschko's fight to air live in the United States on ESPN3.com, with a replay to be seen on one of the television networks within a couple of days after the fight, according to Boente and the network.

For more than two years Povetkin, the 2004 Russian Olympic gold medalist, has been the mandatory challenger for Klitschko. However, the fight already had fallen through twice, first because of a foot injury to Povetkin, and about a year later because of a shoulder injury to Klitschko.

Now, it's off for the third time and Klitschko's camp is negotiating with Top Rank, Peter's promoter.

Top Rank president Todd duBoef told ESPN.com that talks were under way and that he expected they would make a deal "pretty quickly."

"Wladimir felt honestly that Povetkin would not show up because Teddy Atlas kept telling people he didn't think he was ready for the fight, so Wladimir was concerned," Boente said. "He wants to fight Sept. 11 and we appreciate the IBF making a decision quickly so we can save the date, because if Wladimir wins in September, he wants to come back and fight for a third time this year in December."

The rematch with Peter (34-3, 27 KOs) is an intriguing one because of their first fight. Klitschko was only in his third fight since being knocked out by Lamon Brewster in a title bout a year earlier and there were many questions about his toughness and how he would react when opposing a fearsome puncher such as Peter.

Peter floored Klitschko three times, but Klitschko kept himself together and won every round in which he didn't go down to take the decision and earn the IBF mandatory title shot. Seven months later, Klitschko knocked out Chris Byrd to win the belt and has held it since.

"Wladimir and myself think the Peter fight is a great matchup," Boente said. "It's a rematch of a good fight. There are a lot of people more interested in that fight than the Povetkin fight."

Peter is already training in Big Bear, Calif., and manager Ivaylo Gotzev said they are eager for another opportunity against Klitschko, especially after Peter had such a poor performance when he lost his version of the title in an eighth-round TKO loss to Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir's brother, in Germany in 2008.

"The IBF has done the right thing and we are negotiating a deal. I expect it to go a lot smoother and a lot quicker than the previous negotiation Klitschko had with Povetkin because we actually want the fight," Gotzev said. "This is a very big fight for the German population and we're going to make it a very big fight for the heavyweight fans around the world.

"You have an exciting matchup that has already proven to be a competitive one. I still get people asking me how Samuel lost when he knocked the guy down three times. We are going to finish what we started in September 2005. This year, it will be a September to remember."

After losing a decision to Eddie Chambers following his loss to Vitali Klitschko, Peter has won four fights in a row, all by knockout, including a second-round knockout of Nagy Aguilera in an elimination bout in March.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.
 

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Now that a black fighter is involved maybe HBO will actually televise it.
 

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Of course this would be a perfect opportunity to have a Wlad Haye fight, to bring the heavyweight division one step closer to unification, but that would make too much sense, and of course Haye is afraid of Wlad.Edited by: referendum
 

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So according to Dan Rafael's article, the despicable Teddy Atlas has been advising Povetkin not to fight Wladimir.
 

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Atlas made Michael Moorer a meek Ferdinand the Bull type fighter. He might be inadvertently doing this with Povetkin. When your trainer says that you aren't ready for a title shot after you have cleaned out the divison, what does that say about his confidence in you?Edited by: white is right
 
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Westside said:
I guess Povetkin got the "willy worms" and bitched out. Too bad, now I will have to hold my breath until Wlad softens up Pete's mug, thereby forcing him to quit on his stool.
I don't believe Povetkin backed out, but i do think Atlas had something to do with this........
 

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It's funny how Teddy Atlas would always go against Wlad no matter who he fought but now that Teddy is directly involved he is basically saying Wlad will win the fight.I think all those past predictions were just wishful thinking.
 

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I see some here want to put the onus on Uncle Teddy for the fight not happening. Please, Povetkin is the guy who fights and should call the shots at this stage of this career. Povetkin is obviously not sure he can beat Wlad. So what, I think its prudent for him to get a couple of more fights under his belt. Teddy was just being honest and looking out for the welfare of his fighter.

Bottom line, if Povetkin thought he could beat Wlad he would have been at the press conference last Monday. The same could be said for Mayweather refusing to sign the contract with Pacman. He to is not confident of beating him at this point in time. Not rocket science.
 

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Bottom line, if Povetkin thought he could beat Wlad he would have been at the press conference last Monday.

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Wrong. The fighters don't run the show, the gangsters do. The fighters don't even have a union. This stinks.
 

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Wrong. The fighters don't run the show, the gangsters do. ???

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Then why even watch a single fight? Based on this rational, all fighters are pawns, punks, phoneys, media hype, clowns, never wheres, wanna be affelets, frauds, WWE wrestlers, charades, figure heads and on and on. The K bros would be included.

No, I am not wrong. Povetkin is not sure he wants an ass whipping at this point and for the money he is garanteed. He knows he is not ready and will get more experience. If I thought organized crime still ran boxing like it did in the 40s, 50s and 60s I would not watch a single match.
 
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I don't know thats going on, but i don;t think Povetkin is scared of Waldimir.there's been talk that Wald has been paying Povetkin not to push his mandatory.

And i don't believe Peter wants back in the ring with a Klitschko! Vitali gave "ole Sam" a bad beating,
and Waldimir put him in the hospital after their first fight....Edited by: lost
 

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lost said:
I don't know thats going on, but i don;t think Povetkin is scared of Waldimir.   there's been talk that Wald has been paying Povetkin not to push his mandatory.

And i don't believe Peter wants back in the ring with a Klitschko! Vitali gave "ole Sam" a bad beating,


and Waldimir put him in the hospital after their first fight....





Of course he's not scared.  He's a top professional fighter.  I don't see how he has much of a chance against Dr K, nor do I see who he's actually beaten who's so good, but I'm sure he isn't "scared".   I don't think the African gorilla has much chance either, especially if he doesn't bring along the house ref, Randy Neuman, who will let him rabbit punch to his heart's content.

This all probably has something to do with the HBO Jew who refused to carry the fight and the boxing mobsters thinking they could make more money by changing the opponent.










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  "Based on this rational, all fighters are pawns, punks..."

No they're not.  They're athletes trying to make it in a very rough and dirty sport. And I've got news for you - boxing in the USA is much worse now than it was in the 40's etc.  They weren't so brazenly in your face back then with incompetent and corrupt refs and judges and announcers and matchmakers,  and the mobsters at least stayed in the shadows back then, whereas now they come right out and stick their ugly Don King mugs in front of the tv cameras.




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lost said:
I don't know thats going on, but i don;t think Povetkin is scared of Waldimir.   there's been talk that Wald has been paying Povetkin not to push his mandatory.

And i don't believe Peter wants back in the ring with a Klitschko! Vitali gave "ole Sam" a bad beating,


and Waldimir put him in the hospital after their first fight....




Of course he's not scared.  He's a top professional fighter.  I don't see how he has much of a chance against Dr K, nor do I see who he's actually beaten who's so good, but I'm sure he isn't "scared".   I don't think the African gorilla has much chance either, especially if he doesn't bring along the house ref, Randy Neuman, who will let him rabbit punch to his heart's content.

This all probably has something to do with the HBO Jew who refused to carry the fight and the boxing mobsters thinking they could make more money by changing the opponent.







ww
I think your right, it's got something too do with HBO saying they would not show the fight.....
 
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