Why Are Nearly All Quarterbacks White??

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  1. Colonel_Reb

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    freedom1, I've seen where several veteran posters here at CF have acknowledged minimal differences in sprinting speed between Whites and blacks of west african ancestry. Don has said pretty much the same thing on numerous radio interviews. It appears you haven't been paying enough attention because you've certainly been around long enough to have read/heard the same things I have.
     
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    Freedom1, it's important to note that Don's account of the perception of speed takes into account that whites comprise over half the population of America. I am more intelligent than the average black, but if you compare me to 1,000 blacks I won't even be near the smartest in the sample.
     
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    Regardless of the actual facts I don't understand why some people think because one group has some advantage over another it follows that they WON'T be better in another area.

    For example, if you were to ask a group of random people, nearly all will publicly acknowledge that there is no inate difference between blacks and whites in intelligence while they will agree that blacks are better athletes. Thus to the media, politicians, educrats, and typical sheeple, blacks are equal to whites in intelligence and superior physically.

    Why then, with the evidence we put forth here can't we say that blacks and whites are equal physically but superior intellectually. Something that is much easier to prove using available information?

    We're the WHITE SUPREMICISTS but everyone else ISNT black supremicists?
     
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    Jaxvid, good post sir. I'd say we're the White "realists" (here at CF).
     
  5. ToughJ.Riggins

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    That's a good point. This PC climate makes it o.k to mock ALL whites as being nerdy and unathletic when it simply isn't true. But try even mentioning- as I have at times- that there are certian academic domains where whites outperform blacks (I can't think of any academic area where blacks have a noticable advantage over whites) and you get lambasted a RACIST.

    It's all part of the social engineering to make whites feel inferior, make white women covet black men more than white men, a white guilt propaganda campaign (as part of a push for a transfer of wealth and power to minorities). The CM's plan is to make whites, Christians and males second class citizens. The aforementioned were the people that built "modern day" America.

    Name calling like "RACIST", is just a quick way to squelch the debate to ask white, Christian males to be treated with dignity. It's also a quick way to make whites worry about their reputation and losing thier jobs from violating company policy- when blacks and other minorities get much more leway with what they are allowed to say.
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    As far as speed, I have made posts on this topic before. I do think that the top blacks have a "slight" advantage in straight lined speed from 15 to about 400 meters. Whites have advantages in other areas though. I made a list at one point looking at strength, agility, balance, 10 yard burst, middle distance running, other measurements, athletic dedication etc. and came to the conclusion that whites are the BEST all round athletes and that whites are better than blacks at more positions of football.

    The only positions I'd give an edge to blacks at are scatback, Split-end WR, FS and CB. It's neck and neck at Powerback, Flanker WR, SS, OLB, DT.

    This is just looking at the positions that are black "friendly". Positions like QB, FB, slot WR, TE, OT, G, C, ILB, DE etc. should be white dominated. With whites being 75% of America- and our vast interest and talent for football, a 30% white NFL is ludicris.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
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    Maybe because white men are the best athletes in the world which is the main reason they have won over 70% of medals in all sports of the summerOlympicsand over 95% of the medals in the winterOlympics?<div>
    </div><div>Maybe because blacks are limited and good in specific sports only such as basketball and running, while whites are easily the most diverse and multi talented athletes on the planet and THEY DO LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE SPORT THERE IS? [​IMG]</div>
     
  7. waterbed

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    The tool you can use for your argument that whites can be good at something wihtout it is becuaser they are the only one who like it, difficult but is possible sometimes.In sports you can use Just the Toplist and use standard derrivation altrough it was better when the toplist would have been a bit larger, but you can still look at the way it is distributed.A did it a bit and it looks like 30% more east asian train on a serious level for sprinting but also events like discus throw and shot put but they are neary double our population so it doesn't mean athletics is more populair for them.If just much less east asians would train for it let say 4 for whites 1 east asian and for the ease of use no others then top list would look like this 5 th place east asian 10 th place etc., of course not exactly like this but it wouldn't be that east asians would only be at the bottom of the toplist like all in the 3 in 70 to 100 place this is not 100% prove but indication.But you can also take difference between 1st white 2 white 3 white till 10 for example/10 and calculate the differnce.then you do that of the east asians(althrough there are not 10 but you count just as much of them as whites, and you can look national records) and calculate the average gap.If the gap betweem them isn't significaly bigger and which I saw it was evenb smaller is strong signal that whites are just great at it.The reason behind this is the bigger the pool the smaller the differnce between first second third.The bigger then sample 1 to 5 or 1 to 20 the bigger then chance it isn't coincidence.1 to 20 is already 1 in trillion I guess.It also looked like bit less western african blacks train fro athletics serious with good accomodations then whites.east africans I haven't looket at yet.
    Dont know if you have to calculate them together.This way of measuring it doesn;t mather much if there are a lot trainig with bad accomodations and some others with good because this will make the gap bigger and will make estimation of amount training for it less so netto it doesn't mather much.It also looks like blaccks are 0.2 or 0.4 sec. faster then whites on average.It looks a bit strange distributed at 9.8 seconds so I am not sure but could be coincidence?the faster you are the better trainig you can get.middel distance race is not a factor it looks( excepot for maybe mongoloids but didin't analyse it a lot)
    It looks like Whites should be mentioned as strong and not bad runners just differnt, mostly a bit combination of endurance and sprint types with because of that a bit lower tops at the elite level.But is not like a lot of populations have much more top guys at sprint only just west african descendants.at long distance mongoloid 1 second faster but that isn't significant.Also faster at 110 meter hurdles but it isn't likely that a top sprinter who could go under 10 seconds in the 100 meter would go ever decide to jump over hurdles in my Opinion, so it doesnt say a lot.
     
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    I saw a year ago that black and whites in NFL are the same speed at the same position.It is likely that blacks should be overrpresent the way they are if speed was the only tool you needed..Bu to me it could also be that they look way to much at the sexy 40 yards which others already observated.if blacks are let say have 5 times more often the speed that is needed fot the average player to be good, the slower you are the more other you need to compensate with IQ, strength maybe even endurance althrough that is not much needed( it stops often)
    let say african american have 5 times more often the high speed that is needed for average to make it to NFL( it doesn't mather if you think this is true) this doesn't mean that they hav to be overepresnet th e way they are now becuase if you are 5 times more ofteen 1.8 standard derrivations( just my guess but doesn't mather) faster then average which I think +- most players on average are, you have to be overrepsendent as 5 times too.This should only be the case if blacks had also 5 times more often the other qualtiys that are needed.So you also have to be for example 5 times overeprecendant at strength and IQ etc to be fairly be as overrpresendant as they are now..This is based on the Correlation between amount of white players and results, that I saw somewhere here a year ago, the correlation was pretty big taking in there are not teams with mostly white players.I did some resarch too and it looks althrough small sample that you would be on average of the 42 teams 6th place if you had an all white team.
     
  9. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Waterbed, some good points. An interesting Google is "Lateral Agility Trumps Speed on Football Field". There were lots of white skill players, from the limited pool allowed at the NFL combine who performed at the top in the short shuttle- and also 40 time - short shuttle= agility differential, two years ago. This was particularly at WR with Collie, Hartline and Nate Swift all near the top.

    This year, the second and third fastest shuttle times amongst WRs were from white Dane Sanzenbacher and white Jeff Maehl (mullato Austin Pettis was #1) if I remember correctly. White WR Kevin Kasper also still has the NFL combine record in the short shuttle. This last combine Jeff Maehl broke the combine record in the 3-cone as well. Mike Hass also had a freakish 3-cone at his Pro Day a few years back.

    The top blacks generally do a little better at the combine in the broad jump and 40 yard dash. A good broad jump is aided by longer legs of people the same height and hamstring strength which the top blacks outperform whites slightly on average. The broad jump is also a great indicator of scatback (tight space) agility. Longer limbs and hamstring strength also help with a more graceful top end speed stride with better leg lift.

    The short shuttle is a good indicator of burst, stop and start on a dime ability and ability to make ONE quick cut. This is important for Powerbacks- and WRs, particularly in the slot. To the best of my knowledge scatback X-Z agility is most crucial for scatbacks and CBs along with with fast 40 times. Looking at the talent pools from H.S and game film, I believe scatback and Split-End WR should be about half white and CB should be the only black majority position at about 35-40% white at the highest level. EVERY OTHER POSITION should be a white majority position!

    Speaking of burst for the speed positions, there are lots of whites with great 10 yard dash times like Weddle (1.43- within the top 25 performers since 2000), Woodhead (1.44) and soon to be McGuffie and Taylor Martinez who are or will be within the top 30-40 best 10 yard dash splits. Chris Johnson topped the list at 1.40. Jamal Charles had a very fast 1.46 and Darren McFadden had a 1.50 10 yard split which is the same split as Jacob Hester.

    We know there is a huge agenda in the DI NCAA- and the NFL- of keeping smaller white skill players out of the NFL Combine.

    The top whites in the world also outperform blacks in squat competitions and by the data I've looked at the top whites have stronger quadriceps muscles and we do better with upper body strength tests. And on I go- middle distance running and long distance running- whites top west Africans. East Africans are the best from about 800 meters and above though. Vertical leaping is a dead heat between blacks (west Africans) and whites. Blacks SLIGHTLY surpass whites in the long jump.

    I used to do my famous lists of top performers and more breakdown of game film to counter Maximus when he was trolling, but I don't have the same time I used to for research anymore and go mostly off memory.
     
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    Whites are stronger head to toe andthis includes hamstrings. Squatting done "Powerlifting" style and at the world record level is primarily a test of glute, ham, hip strenght because of the extremely wide stance and lowbar placements that are typical and which facilitate heavier poundages.This is evidencedby the fact that many outstanding white powerlifters have highly developed posteriors and relatively thin front thighs. Squatting at a high level is hardly a test of quad strenght though whites are probably stronger there also. Of course, whites with the genetics andmotivation totrain for it have developed quads and thighs bigger than anyone.

    If by "do better with upper body strength tests" you mean dominate all strenght events then I agree. This includes Powerlifting (Bench Press, Squat, Deadlift), Weightlifting (Clean and Jerk, Snatch), and thethrowing events (shot-put, discuss, javelin, hammer throw) as well as World's Strongest Man competition.

    The broad jump is a basic test of power/explosiveness not unlike the shot-put. It's not surprising, then, that throwers typically perform better than long-jumpers and sprinters at it and that the world record isheld by a Norwegian shot-putter. I don't see how it measures agility (the ability to change direction at high speed) at all.
     
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    The broad jump can be an indicator of an athletes ability to get leg lift. If you consider the position the athlete has to put his legs in, it may also test some flexibility in the hip socket. Quad strength, hamstring strength as well as some push from the calves help an athlete get a good broad jump. Hamstring strength is crucial for getting leg lift while running.

    There are some white NFL athletes that perform brilliantly in the broad jump, but the average black broad jump of athletes playing the same position seems to be a couple inches longer- when I did research on it a few years back (but alas, I lost the statistic sheet [​IMG]). If you look at some of the top speedy scatbacks in the NFL, most have broad jumps over 10 feet. Strong hamstrings can help with making a bouncy swively kind of cut.

    You are right though that a broad jump is probably a better indicator of short range explosiveness rather than 100 meter speed and certainly not long distance speed which takes more slower twitch muscles.
     
  12. celticdb15

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    In response to the threads topic/question. White quarterbacks are the best. Even with Scout and Rivals doing their best to pump out black "dual threat" QB's, white quarterbacks will always make up the majoirty of QB's in the NFL. Every single quotaback prospect that is forced upon us by the media doesn't have the intelligence, leadership, accuracyand accountability to be a QB in the NFL. Whites are better at a lot of things in life. It's not "racist". it's just the truth!
     
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    Kaptain called it.

    After Tebow led a losing team to the playoffs and torched a top defense through the air in a playoff game he never got another chance.
     

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