Why Are Nearly All Quarterbacks White??

[f3dor]

I dont know much about american football, being a brit and that. Could you tell me this novice, why blacks are aloud to dominate every position, , apart from the player with the most repsonsibility, the qusrterback. Plus dont they get payed the most as well??

Its seems a backfire in terms of a caste syatem, because to me a outsider, i think, well they are picking the blacks for the supposid athleticism n the running roles, and picking the whites for the position that needs the most intelligence, am i reading this completely wrong??It just seems NFL panders to sterotypes...Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[Fightingtowin]

About 14% of the American population is black and about 18% of the starting QBs last year were black. Thus, black QBs roughly represent their demographics because QB is not a position that takes excellent athleticism, mostly an arm and intelligence, thus white guys are allowed to compete for it.

RBs, DBs and WRs are positions where you should have excellent athleticism, but because of the false stereotypes regarding white athletes, whites are almost shut out of those positions, despite proving over and over again that they are worthy on the field and in speed and quickness drills.

The NFL used to shut blacks out of the QB positions because of the stereotype that they wouldn't be smart enough. That didn't start changing until the past 20 years or so, I believe. But that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. That's not the case with coaches either (black head coaches also make up 18% of the head coaches). You have to believe if blacks are considered smart enough to coach, then they would be considered smart enough to play QB also. Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[j41181]

I've seen how black QB's play...

they think they're RUNNINGBACKS!

 

[Anak]

It is because the vast majority of Black QBs do not have the cognitive capabilities to compete at the NFL level. However they are afforded every opportunity to succeed unlike White skill players.

Check out Wonderlic scores. Black QBs perform miserably on this test yet still are always given a chance in the NFL. Wonderlic scores are never used as a knock against Black QBs only White ones.Edited by: Anak

 

[DixieDestroyer]

...Superior intelligence = ability to master the playbook, be savvy in the pocket, read defenses & the confidence to execute (better) under pressure. As Anak alluded to, the Wonderlic scores prove the intelligence of (most) White QBs.
It's also due to the fine athletic ability (arm strength, speed, coordination, etc.) of these White QBs.

Edited by: DixieDestroyer

 

[j41181]

I'm no football expert, but when I see a black QB play, he tends to rely on his speed and quickness to carry the ball like a runningback, more than passing. When they do attempt a pass, it's often incomplete or fumbled. They make RASH decisions.

White QB's can do those thing's too, display speed and quickness to carry the ball. But the big difference, they are SUPERB decision makers. The passes they attempt tend to reach their targets.

Overall, whites know the intangibles of quarter backing BETTER than blacks. PERIOD!

 

[white is right]

It is because the vast majority of Black QBs do not have the cognitive capabilities to compete at the NFL level. However they are afforded every opportunity to succeed unlike White skill players.

Check out Wonderlic scores. Black QBs perform miserably on this test yet still are always given a chance in the NFL. Wonderlic scores are never used as a knock against Black QBs only White ones.

This is a valid point. You need to be superb athlete with the brain power of a pilot to be a top qb in the modern NFL. Guys like Vick just aren't smart enough for the position. Also Whites have stronger arms period, it's highlighted in sports with similar bio-mechanics such as pitchers and javelin throwers. Edited by: white is right

 

[sport historian]

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I dont know much about american football, being a brit and that. Could you tell me this novice, why blacks are aloud to dominate every position, , apart from the player with the most repsonsibility, the qusrterback. Plus dont they get payed the most as well??
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<div>Its seems a backfire in terms of a caste syatem, because to me a outsider, i think, well they are picking the blacks for the supposid athleticism n the running roles, and picking the whites for the position that needs the most intelligence, am i reading this completely wrong??It just seems NFL panders to sterotypes...</div>

You certainly don't know much about American football if you have to ask THIS question.

 

[Kaptain]

First of all, blacks are still over-represented at QB. Secondly, the QB is a very notable position and when someone sucks at it eventually it becomes obvious no matter how many chances he gets. Blacks are given more than enough opportunities, but nearly all of them eventually prove to absolutely suck. Thirdly, athleticism or percieved affletism isn't even why they seem to get so many opportunities to suck - it's just because they are black. Witness the number of black QBs in college and the pros who display virtually no athleticism - I don't think I have to list their names. Conversely, look at all the athletic white QBs who are not even given a chance or are marginalized and end up riding the bench their entire careers. For glaring example, Tim Tebow is one of the most athletic QBs of all time and also one of the greatest college players of all time and yet it is in doubt yet whether he will ever get a real chance to be a starting NFL QB.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I have yet to see a complete black quarterback. There have been some which have been good like Warren Moon or Donovan McNabb but there are tons of white qb's which I would say are complete quarterbacks. By that I mean guys who can make all the necessary throws, great in the pocket, and very intelligent.

 

[Tom Iron]

Pretty good discussion. My opinion is that the White QB see's more of the defense than the black QB. He see's the last step of more of the defense just prior to the snap and more of the first step of the defense just following the snap. Also, he understands the playbook better and even if a play breaks down or the coverage on a pass is too good, he instictively knows where his checkdown running back should be and could possibly make a short pass for yardage or at least avoid a sack by throwing the ball in the general direction of the receiver and just taking an incomplete rather than disaster. His eye/mind acts as a camera/computer and he therefore is able to make his decisions based on that information, while the black man doesn't have those traits for the most part, the play develops and he's more surprised by the fast moving events of the play and acts accordingly by panicing and running with the ball rather than seeing the play through. Looking to make something good happen out of something bad thus increasing his chances of fumbling or being injured, etc.

Tom Iron...

 

[f3dor]

btw folks i apologise for my typing on this thread...must have been tired, as its terrible grammar..

 

[Deadlift]

Tom Iron,

Great analysis!

 

[Deus Vult]

Pretty good discussion. My opinion is that the White QB see's more of the defense than the black QB. He see's the last step of more of the defense just prior to the snap and more of the first step of the defense just following the snap. Also, he understands the playbook better and even if a play breaks down or the coverage on a pass is too good, he instinctively knows where his check-down running back should be and could possibly make a short pass for yardage or at least avoid a sack by throwing the ball in the general direction of the receiver and just taking an incomplete rather than disaster. His eye/mind acts as a camera/computer and he therefore is able to make his decisions based on that information, while the black man doesn't have those traits for the most part, the play develops and he's more surprised by the fast moving events of the play and acts accordingly by panicking and running with the ball rather than seeing the play through. Looking to make something good happen out of something bad thus increasing his chances of fumbling or being injured, etc.

Tom Iron...

As Tom and others have stated, QB is the most cerebral position on the field. Thus, the necessity of possessing a minimal level of intelligence weeds out many more Blacks (avg IQ 85) than it does Whites (avg IQ 103).

Another vital aspect of the QB position is leadership. Blacks are a race-conscious bunch, unabashedly so. But even they recognize that although they would rather have a brother as QB, coach, owner, etc., whites best fit these positions -- positions that carry and maintain the team, the franchise, and the brand that keeps their hefty checks coming. Blacks know that whites are on average much smarter. It is only the minds of nutty white liberals that "equality" exists.

Leadership also means being the public face of a franchise. NFL is a huge business. There is a bias in favor of nonwhites, which means the occasional semi-articulate Black player can write his own ticket. By and large, however, Whites are far more reliable as representatives of the business. For example: DWF's may speculate as to whether Emmit Smith was more responsible than QB Troy Aikman for the 90's Cowboys' offensive success. No one disputes that Aikman was and is a better spokesman and representative of that franchise.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Black QBs are probably slightly overrepresented. The league seems to prefer the black journeymen QBs over white journeymen ones. In college recruiting last year, out of Rivals top 20 QBs (Dual Threat and Pro Style) 10 were black. Clearly the cultural Marxists are trying to castify the QB position as well.

I see some black QBs who "got game", but if the competition is close the brutha "black quarterback" will always get the job. Mediocre black QB starters like David Garrard and Jason Campbell also get much longer to keep their offense in mediocrity than a white QB would. And I wouldn't be surprised if we see a final "Duhrrahhh!" lol from DuhMarcus this year. How long will it take before he is officially considered a QB bust like Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf? I'd say it's already case closed.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

BTW, Tim Tebow could very well end up being the true definition of the "dual" threat QB that the NFL supposedly wants to remake the position (as JC said). I think he'll end up doing it better than Vince Young, Randall Cunningham and Mike Vick (although the last one's almost obvious). Tebow has already shown amazing work ethic to retool his throwing motion. He made great strides in just months. He will probably have to start as a wildcat QB though as he learns to play in a traditional pro style check down offense and perfects a faster delivery. Jimmy Clausen is more NFL ready, but I predict Tebow and Sam Bradford will be the best two QBs this year!

Tebow ran a 4.71 which is as fast as slower WRs and RBs in the league, but showed superior short area explosion running a "6.66" 3-Cone (ironic since he's a devout Christian lol) faster than any RB this draft year. He also ran a 4.17 short shuttle which would have been tied for 4th amongst RBs and would have been the best lateral agility difference mark of any RB at 0.54! Yes, Tebow's got some swivel! And he had a great 38.5 vertical jump to boot!

 

[gatorprideFL]

that is my man, what numbers mr. riggins, i guess thats why you havent heard the naacps' little brother, espns' commentators talking about how he isnt fast enough or quick enough. Very surprising that josh mcdaniels took took tebow, i wonder about denvers receiving core tho as much of a d*mb@ss as brandon marshall is he was good.<div>I say Tebow is the starter come mid camp. </div><div>

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[Don Wassall]

Blacks not only are usually subpar quarterbacks, they are also very injury prone. Of the top six headlines on a football site right now, here are four of them:

1. "Vick Says He's Not Ready to Return"
2. "V. Young Sprains Knee"
3. "Garrard Suffers Concussion"
6. "Jason Campbell Has Sprained Knee"

Seneca Wallace, who got the opportunity to start due to an injury to Jake Delhomme, also is sidelined by injury. That leaves Josh Freeman and Donovan McNabb as the only two black starting QBs who aren't injured -- and Freeman was injured most of preseason and McNabb is constantly battling injuries.

By greatly lowering acceptable standards when it comes to fitness, qualification,and behavior in order to practice an extreme form of affirmative action, the Caste System continues to bring about its eventual demise.Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[whiteathlete33]

I still don't understand what all the hype is with Josh Freeman. He's very mediocre yet the media feels he will become a star very soon.

 

[Tom Iron]

Good morning Gentlemen,

Interesting thoughts. I find this season very interesting to say the least. It seems the league is coming apart at the seams. Obviously, the idea of black QB's has seen its day and will be severely restricted following this year.

This off year will bring in a new mindset when it comes to blacks. Ownership is finally facing problems with its fanbase. Some of it has to do with the economy obviously, but the owners will also understand it's also due to the product it's trying to sell. Everybody is aware now that the blacks are running amuk and have become a malignant force on teams. Just look at the absolutely idiotic penalties occuring. Also, this situation doesn't seem to be stabilizing itself in any way. It just seems to be picking up steam weekly.

We are always raging against coaches who are against White players and we're correct for the most part. But we should also understand that these coaches are under enormous pressure to put blacks out on the field, that's from above and from the players themselves. We can only imagine what a coach must go through who knows he's doing the wrong thing by keeping a black player over a more deserving White player. Even with the hated coach of Denver, we have to think he was told to do what he did to Hillis. Or, maybe he was pressured from the players themselves.

Whatever the circumstances of this overall breakdown we're witnessing, it bodes well for White players. more evidence I think is the steady flood of people coming aboard this site now.

Tom Iron...

 

[whiteathlete33]

Then there is Warren Moon. I'd have to say he's the best black quarterback of all time but that's not saying much. I just checked Moon's stats and this is what I found. His career completion percentage is 58% which isn't all that great. I'd compare Moon to a an average white quarterback like Jake Plummer. Moon threw for almost 50,000 yards though so I'll give him his due and say he deserves to be in the HOF. I could name fifty white quarterbacks that were better though.

 

[Truthteller]

I actually remember SI's resident marxist (now at ESPN) Rick Reilly predicting back in 2000 (or so), that in 10 years the majority of the QB's in the NFL would be black and he said it would be a great thing for the game. I also remember after the Rams beat Tennessee in the SB back in Jan. 2000 that post game analyst Jackie Slater looked straight into the camera and predicted that "pocket passers would soon be extinct in the NFL",as the Rams barely escaped losing to asuperior athlete at QB. Slater forget to mention, however, the Rams won due to Kurt Warner?

Two quick points, no one has made here that I would like to bring up:

What happened in 1995 that opened up the floodgates to black QB's in the NFL?

For several decades, NFL teams had always talked about bringing in more black QB's, but for the longest time it was mainly just Moon, Cunningham and backup type Rodney Peete making any sort of impact in the league....But in 1995 it seemed the floodgates suddenly burst open and just about every team in the league, except a few -- (i.e. Colts, Jets &amp; Giants),has selected a black "future starter"in the top rounds of the draft the last 16 years. Several teams (Tennesse &amp; Tampa) have drafted several in that span. But what triggered this suddenchange?

I always thought things changed when quarterbacks were givensmall radio transmitters in their helmets**. This made it easier for less intelligent QB's of all races (Jeff George, Vince Young, ect.) to get the plays. Whether I'm right or wrong here, no on candispute that the number of black QB's drafted in the top 3 rounds spiked after this change (spring of 1995)! Perhaps it was just a coincidence?

** http://www.steelersfever.com/nfl_history_of_rules.html


Have the type of black QB's sought after in the draft changed since 1995?

I think they have. In the 2nd half of the 90's and the early 2000's NFL teams drafted a lot of smaller/thinner (5' 11" to 6' 2") "athletic" QB's that were very commonplace in the CFL and the college football (especially the Big 12) and dubbed "undefensible" by the marxistsdue to their combo ofrunning &amp; throwing skills. Kordell was the poster boy for this supposed new/superiorbreed and many others soon followed -- Mike Vick, Shaun King, Akili Smith, Aaron Brooks, Tony Banks, Quincy Carter, ect.

But it seems NFL teams eventually figured out these types were not going to cut it as "slash players", so theygraduallychanged tact in the early to mid 2000's and starting drafting bigger black QB's (6' 5", 240 and over) that looked like TE's/DE's and possessed "cannon arms". It didn't mattermanywere leaving school too early and not quiteready for the NFL. Jamarcus Russell, Vince Young andJosh Freeman were all quickly hailed by ESPN and the other "gurus" as franchise saviorsand allrocketed up the charts from the begin of their last year in college.(By the way, Leftwich and J. Cambell wereseniors that fit this mold).

Now, with this group largely going bust, it will be interesting to see what happens next? Full-sized, "cannon-armed"(but low impact passers) collegians such as Tyrell Pryor, Cam Newton, Colin Kapernick and Jacory Harris are now, once again,being talked about as "NFL projects" or possible pro wide receivers. Five years ago, led by the draft clowns at ESPN, these guys would've been talked about as potential top 5 picks as juniors and seniors. So in that sense, things have changed, perhaps, until the next plan is put in place to change the position

 

[Don Wassall]

The NFL thought they hit the jackpot with Daunte Culpepper -- huge, strong-armed, and too powerful to bring down. Culpepper had a few good seasons, but was the beneficiary of a Vikings offense that had a great offensive line, a very good runner in Robert Smith, and Randy Moss as an unstoppable force in his early years along with the all-time great possession receiver Cris Carter.

Culpepper could stand back in the pocket for what seemed like 10 seconds and then wail the ball down the field to Moss, or take off and build power and make nice runs.

But that didn't last very long. Smith retired prematurely, and Culpepper gained weight while simultaneously losing power. He was washed up early, as are so many black athletes.

After Culpepper came big (and fat) with zero mobility -- Byron Leftwich -- and then big, fat and pathetic -- JaMarcus Russell.

Now an aging and often inaccurate Donovan McNabb remains the only accomplished black QB, and a big "project," Josh Freeman, is the league's only young hope at the position. But you can bet the NFL and its mediapartners willkeep trying. What's working against the affirmative action experiment at quarterback, however, is that black deficiencies can't be covered up as readily as at other positions. Fewer teams are likely to want to draft black QBs in the first or second round, but they'll continue to be drafted in later rounds and given opportunities when they present themselves. And of course the big college programs will continue to recruit and play them, which means there will be "prospects" every year for the NFL Draft.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The biggest year for black quarterback was 1999. That's the draft that saw three black quarterbacks taken in the first round and only one white one(Tim Couch). McNabb was taken second overall, Akili Smith third, and Culpepper eleventh. Every time I watched Sportscenter they were always making a big issue about the "rise" of black quarterbacks. The newspaper was full of that crap as well. Akili Smith turned out to be arguably the biggest draft bust in history.

In my opinion if the league were fair the only black quarterback who would be starting for any of the NFL's thirty two teams would be McNabb. The rest of them are terrible and very inconsistent. I think NFL coaches give some of these black quarterbacks opportunities simply because of straight line speed. Coaches figure these players aren't the best passers but can pick up yard with their feet.

Take Michael Vick for example. He was a very mediocre quarterback his entire career and if not for his running ability he would never have even started a game in the league. Fat Bastard knows Vick isn't as good as Kolb yet Vick can put up nice rushing numbers so he gets the nod.

 

[Toby Hillis]

whiteathlete, Cade McNown was drafted in the first round (12th overall) in that draft as well. I agree, McNabb is worthy, a couple others are borderline starters, the restshould bebackups/wildcatplayersor shouldnt be in the league at all