White starters about the same as last year

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  1. referendum

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    It looks like the total amount of white starters this year will be about 180, about the same as last year, and pretty similar to what we've seen in years past. I'll do a basic rundown by team in the following days, unless someone else wants to.
     
  2. woody39

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    Disappointing some what as there is no increase in starters but the problem with gauging starters is who do you include. People like Beasley, Amendola, Woodhead and Chandler will all be prominent and important but aren't actual starters on paper. I think we could have a big year in terms of white skill players even without Jordy Nelson.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    What I continue to notice is a decrease in White backups. The Whites that start at positions other than the o-line stand out much more than they used to as far as how good they are, especially on defense. Meanwhile, more and more teams have few White defensive players as backups, much like many of the SEC team depth charts. The SEC seems to work hand-in-hand with the NFL and media when it comes to the Caste System and indoctrinating the masses of football fans.

    The slow but undeniable trend of more blacks on the o-line as starters and backups continues, as well as more and more teams having a black back-up QB.

    Whites still dominate as starting QBs -- in the face of an ever more extreme effort to have more blacks starting -- and tight end is roughly 50-50 white/black, but everywhere else the blackening continues, just as it does in the government-regulated corporate media in general. Yes, three White rookie RBs made rosters, but let's take a look a year from now as to how they were used, if it all, or ended up being cut during the season. Even if someone like Zach Zenner ends up running for 1,000 yards it won't change the media-trained DWF perception of White running backs any more than Peyton Hillis did five years ago.
     
  4. Woody

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    Don, the best examples of this can be seen with the Texans and Patriots. The Texans have 5 white starters on defense, but to avoid unwanted scrutiny and to fill their racial quotas, they have cut every single white backup in defense. Quite a stunner, I had thought they would keep at least 2-3.

    The Patriots have done the same thing on offense. Virtually every backup besides Chandler is black. They need to keep the good whites for their high powered and precise offense, but the backup positions are not worth filling with whites as it will cause unwanted scrutiny and bad media.

    Huge shame. We never seem to make any ground with our "White" teams, they always seem to hit a mysterious wall at around 22 whites...
     
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    Good to see you back here, Woody. I can't think of a single team that is going in the "right" direction other than the refreshing changes Chip Kelly has brought to the Eagles, and the Patriots continuing to be a dominant team every year despite/because the "copycat" league will never copy anything that isn't in a black supremacist direction. And both Philly and New England have moved back from challenging the NFL's overwhelming blackness.

    Looking at how the Caste System has spread from the field of play to virtually every aspect of the fantasy world presented by the government's corporate media arm one could hardly expect otherwise.
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    The caste system does a really efficient job at eliminating the undesirable white athlete from the NFL. The draft has been a typically 23% white affair with the 2015 draft being historically low with the number of whites drafted. It's no surprise that no influx of white players is on the horizon with the current system in place.

    The system is implemented with the recruiting process but enough white players do make it to either FBS, FCS or any of the lower levels in college to comprise more than 23% of any draft class. The controlled draft process really filters out as many white players as possible. The supposed experts, scouts, gms and coaches only look for a certain type of player (black). Every year the scouts are always wrong as so many of these players yet never held accountable for being wrong. The media never asks the obvious question as they are complicit in this whole charade. Yes I am totally aware I sound like a broken record lol.
     
  7. referendum

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    Ok, heres the team by team breakdown.

    Afc East
    Buffalo, 2 on OL,1 DL, 3 total
    Miami, 1 TE, QB, 2 total
    NY Jets, 2 OL, 1 WR, FB, QB, five total
    NE Pats, 5 OL, 2 WR,1 TE, QB, 1 DL, 10 total, but I'm concerned about the OL and how long that stays all white starters.

    AFC North,
    Balt, 2 OL, QB, FB, 1 TE, 5 total
    Cleve, 5 OL, QB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 lb's (linebackers), 10 total
    Cin, 4 OL, 2 TE's (Hewitt listed as second starting tight end, not sure how much they will use that formation), QB, 1 lb (AJ Hawk a rare starting white Bengal on defense), 8 total.
    Pitts, 2 OL, QB, 1 TE, 4 total

    AFC South,
    Jack, 4 OL, QB, 2 lbs, 7 total
    Hou, 1 OL, QB, 1 TE, FB, 2 D-line, 3 LB, 9 total
    Indy, 3 OL, QB, 1 TE, Fleener listed as co-starting TE, 5 total
    Tenn, 2 OL, 1 TE, Fasano listed as co-starter, 3 total

    AFC west,
    KC, 2 OL, 1 TE, QB, FB, 1 D-line, 6 total
    Den, 3 OL, QB, TE, FB, (not sure how much Denver will use FB Casey though), 1 D-line, Wolfe will be back from suspension after four games, 7 total
    Oak, 1 QB, don't believe Lee Smith will be starting TE, though Our lads has him so listed, 1 total
    SD, 1 OL, QB, 1 D-line, 1 safety, 4 total

    Thats 89 total, next up the NFC
     
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    NFC East,
    Dallas, 3 OL, QB, 1 TE, FB, 1 D-line, 1 LB, 8 total
    NY Giant, 3 OL, QB, 1 Safety, 5 total,
    Phil, 4 OL, QB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 LB, 9 total
    Wash, 2 OL, QB, 2 LB, 5 total

    NFC North,
    Chi, 3 OL, Qb, 2 LB, 6 total
    Det, 2 OL, QB, 3 total
    GB 5 OL, FB, QB, 1 LB, 8 total
    Minn, 3 OL, FB, 1 TE, 1 D-line, 2 Lb, 1 safety, 9 total

    NFC South
    Atl, 4 OL (center situation unsettled, but I believe a white will start,)QB, FB, 1 TE, 2 Lb 9 total
    Car 3 OL, 1 TE, 2 Lb, 6 total
    NO, 3 OL, FB (not sure how much FB Austin Johnson will be used, but will count him), QB, not counting
    Josh Hill yet as starter, but he may become one over the season, 5 total
    TB, 3 OL, 3 total

    NFC West
    Ariz, 3 OL, Qb, 4 total
    St Louis, 2 OL, Qb, 1 D-line, 1 Lb, 5 total
    SF, 4 OL, Fb, 5 total
    Sea, 3 OL, 3 total

    So, thats 93 total NFC starters, which combined with AFC 89 makes for 182 total. That number is actually pretty good considering last years draft, and if anything I fear that over the season it will go down some, as there aren't too many cases of white starters waiting in the wings.

    Looks like 36 white starters on defense which is up a little from last year, I believe, but only five starting WR's.
     
  9. TwentyTwo

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    Wanting to focus on the Defenses for now...interesting how the Texans are the team that bucks the trend...5 white starters...but no back-up's? Chris Prosinski could easily be at least a back-up with the journey-man DB's they have...it would be asking too much for an NFL team to start 6...

    The Texans are this century's version of the Bills Super Bowl Teams of the 90's & NY Jets in the 80's...extra vanilla & not as much chocolate. How were the Dolphins undefeated 70's team so pale & yet be so successful? Even the 80's Super Bowl Champ Bears started 5...Correct?

    The Vikings start a respectable 4 ...if this were the norm instead of the exception...i may not be posting on this subject. Just check-out the College Previews here on CF...Is it really any surprise? When Don Post say's the "defenses are roughly 90% black" it's an eye opener...i notice it from the get-go; it's how i was raised...(my grandpa died 20 years ago told me football would be all-black one day; we'd argue)

    I expect to see 2 or 3 white players on every starting defense when i turn on a TV...but when you see no whites...you take notice...that doesn't make me a racist/bigot...just making an observation! The norm seems to be 1 or 2...

    It looks like a total of 11 NFL Teams will be coal-black...down from last year's 13... did you count Derek Wolfe (Suspended)?? Pencil him as a starter when he returns...What's up w the Lions?? Not one white defensive player on the 53-man roster?? Only one on the Practice-squad (LB-Kevin Snyder/Rutgers)...

    Great to see Cooper Taylor in the starting line-up...his margin for error will be much slimmer than his black counterparts..hopefully he wrecks havoc! However Chris Conte is not a starter(is OurLads accurate? for the Bucs? Wow!

    Thanks for your work Referendum....

    BTW D-lineman Markus Kuhn is a starter for the NY Giants
     
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  10. referendum

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    I focus on defense too, as an area where white players should be able to make a comeback, but the powers that be don't seem to want to even allow a few more white D-linemen even. Haven't counted Kuhn on the Giants as a starter because I think thats only tentative and yes, Derek Wolfe is counted and he helps to make the Broncos somewhat palatable, assuming Daniels and Casey have some role on the offense.
     
  11. Upside

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    I think Houston has the best front 7 in football, with the Rams a close 2nd. However, I agree, they need safety help bad!! Prosinski would be a great option, or maybe Brian Suite or Landon Feichter? Both were recently cut, and definitely have the skills to play in this league. Also, mark my words, Vinnie Sunseri will be a starter in a couple years. It would be nice if a defensive mind like Belichick were to pick him up, and take him under his wing.

    It's unbelievable to me that you could have 11 NFL teams without a single white person in the defensive starting lineup, and most people don't even notice, question, or even think that there is anything wrong with that.
    Yet, at the same time, if you pay attention to the handful of honkies out there, they're usually the best players on their respective teams. And if there are any lurking DWFs out there that think we're exaggerating, let's take a closer look:

    Who's better than Watt in Houston? (or in the entire league for that matter)
    Anyone on Jacksonville's defense better than Poz?
    Anyone better than Kuechly in Carolina?
    Weddle in San Diego?
    Kerrigan in Washington?
    Lee in Dallas?
    Barwin in Philly?
    Warrilow in Atlanta?
    Harrison Smith in Minnesota?
    Matthews in Green Bay?
    Allen in Chicago?
    Ninkovich in New England?
    Laurinaitis in St. Louis?
    or Kruger in Cleveland?

    That's about a dozen teams where the best player, or at the very least, one of the best players on the defense is White... Yet, nobody questions this absurd notion that there are apparently only 35-40 White men in the country capable of starting on an NFL defense. You would think, based on laws of probability and statistics, there would be at least a few on each team...at worst... And as you touched on, I don't think anyone should or would care about the race of the players, if things weren't so blatantly uneven on defense, running back, and at wide receiver. What is the purpose of this obvious agenda? And why does the media seem to egg it on?

    Conte has been injured. He'll be in the lineup as soon as he's healthy. Bradley McDougald and Major Wright will be the week 1 starters. So yeah.... Conte will be in there soon enough...
     
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    Even though I can just about guarantee that if Dougtavious Whaley isn't fired in Buffalo that he'll be gotten rid of next spring due to the overpayment of a handful of overrated afroletes, I'd like to add Kyle Williams to the list. Kyle has been one of the top 5 defensive lineman in the NFL for the last 10 years and has of course received scant attention. He is now the ONLY white starter on the Bills defense. There is also only one white back-up in A.J. Tarpley, and he wouldn't even have made the team were it not for an injury to Tyella Powell, who has never been even remotely impressive.
     
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    I believe Conte was demoted anyway but I could be wrong. Has there ever been a white safety more hated than Conte?
     
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    There seems to be two types of hate for white safeties...

    1 - You're a young player so naturally make a few mistakes, and they want you gone... because you're white, you'll never develop into a great safety.

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    2 - You're a good, but not a great safety, and due to stereotypes, the perception is there's got to be someone out there that's better than you.... because you're white, and whites can't play safety...

    Conte would be in the second class of hate. He's probably the most talented white safety that has been unanimously hated. Conte is definitely in the top half of safeties league wide. He was responsible for the back end of one of the league's worst defenses, added to the fact that he played hurt the last couple years. Conte is not a bad safety by any means; His problem is, he doesn't dominate. As a hater, you can get away with whining and complaining about Conte, but the fact is, he makes the same mistakes Eric Weddle or Harrison Smith make, the difference is, when you complain about Smith or Weddle, you just look like a fool, because they're great. Some other examples of this type of hate are Reed Doughty, Eric Smith, and Craig Dahl.

    In Piscatelli's case, he was a young player in a bad situation, who could have developed into a very good safety had he been given more of an opportunity. He did however make some boneheaded plays here and there, but again, he was young, and probably could have been something special, but was never really given a chance to develop. Examples include Chris Prosinski, Craig Steltz, and Jeff Heath.
     
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    Cole Beasley is a starter isn't he?
     
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    Not technically. He's the number three receiver and slot guy so he does play a lot.
     
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    This is a good analysis. I think this is the way it is.

    From what I've seen all white players except superstars are constantly criticized. It's even worse for white players playing "black" positions such as defensive back.
     
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    Thanks; it seems like hated white safeties are broken into those two schools of dwf thought.

    With Linebackers, it's broken into 3 categories:

    1- can't get off blocks; examples include: Mark Simoneau, Peter Sirmon, Miles Burris.

    2- not athletic enough to cover; examples: Scott Shanle, AJ Hawk, Brady Poppinga.

    3- makes all his tackles downfield; examples: Barrett Ruud, Paul Posluszny (early in career), Pat Angerer.
     
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    Some really good posts Upside and others.

    When thinking of most hated White safety, I immediately thought of Piscitelli. By chance, I just saw he is now trying to make it in professional wrestling. He's in the lower ranks of the WWE.

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    The WWE is 100 times more fair to athletic Whites than the affirmative action NFL. I hope Sabby makes a good living as a wrassler and gains some fame and popularity along the way. He deserves it after the despicable treatment he received from the countless drunk white cuck fans.

    PS - Another White safety that was universally hated was Adam Archuleta. After starring on St Louis, he signed a big deal with the Redskins. Adam had a few concussions and struggled with the new defensive scheme. Of course he was on a short rope and the Skins never gave him a shot to "bounce back". Being a high paid, "underachieving" White player at a taboo position made him Public Enemy #1 by the Jewsmedia and fat cuck fan-bases of the NFL. He's now trying his hand in broadcasting. Like Sabby, I wish him lots of luck.
     
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    I don't know how much respect he got, but I'm quite sure players were looking around for Chuck Cecil. Cecil a safety was once deemed too vicious for the NFL!

    Known for his thunderous hits, he played about 7 years from 88' to 95' for Green Bay and Houston. Had to retire early due to concussions. He was an All-American out of Arizona where of course, he wasn't offered any scholarships and had to walk-on. He once returned an interception over 100 yards in an Arizona game.

    ...anyway, just wanted to mention him to some of the younger guys who may not remember this guy.

    https://youtu.be/AT14rYHV8CQ

    Here's a short clip of one of his hits on Chicago's Neal Anderson.
     

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