When enough is enough

Discussion in 'NFL' started by goyim, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. goyim

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    With each game that has passed this NFL season, my excitement and interest in the game has ebbed to the point where I am contemplating whether I should bother following this dying league after the Super Bowl.

    I've seen the quality of play deteriorate to a point where one wonders why teams bother with fielding a defense. I suspect that the percentages of starting defenses across the NFL is somewhere in the area 80-90%. I suspect that these two things are very related.

    DWFs rationalize poor defensive play as a result of rule changes. This is a mostly ridiculous meme. The rule changes are a result of poor fundamentals because the negro brain is mostly incapable of processing anything beyond basic information. I would severely doubt that predominantly white defenses of the past struggled with tackling fundamentals beyond the Pop Warner level. I have seen more injuries from awkward, slow developing tackles. I have seen more injuries from players launching at the knees of other players. I have seen more injuries from these collectively than I have from hard, clean, fundamentally sound hits which seem to be penalized with greater frequency.

    Because of the systemic exclusion of whites in professional American football, the collective's consciousness is duped into believing unquestionably the alleged physical superiority of the black athlete. We know this to be a complete farce. To question this publicly is tantamount to heresy.

    Notice the NFL's endless promotion of causes which are closely connected to cultural Marxist creations such as breast cancer awareness, military worship, homophilia and white inferiority. The DWF chuckles at and applauds these promotions, as their primitive brains are incapable of realizing that prostate cancer affects men at a virtually identical rate as breast cancer affects women. They'll shout the mantra of save the ta ta's and giggle like immature twats. It's no surprise that bringing attention the cultural Marxist leanings of the NFL out to the average DWF will earn you more vitriolic rage than stating the falsehoods of black physical supremacy.

    The awakening can only occur when the new religion that is the NFL perishes. I am leaning towards contributing to its decline.
     
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  2. jaxvid

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    I tried boycotting years ago, the NFL got bigger. So I settled on subversion instead.
     
  3. FootballDad

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    I suspect that many, many MIA CF posters have done the same, and it hasn't affected the popularity of the league. Seems to me that jaxvid is offering a more reasonable option.
     
  4. icsept

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    I believe I'm addicted to the NFL, which I've been watching since childhood. So, I put up with the side effects: propaganda, Negrophilia, discrimination, heinous commercials and commentary, etc. I actually look forward to the day that I wake up and don't give a **** about the NFL. For now, I rely on the momentary highs of an Eric Decker over-the-top TD catch; an acrobatic grab by Riley Cooper; Danny Woodhead breaking a db's ankles; a Sean Lee pick 6; and, Toby Gerhart blasting two defenders on his way to a 41 yard TD. The NFL gives me just enough to keep me coming back.
     
  5. The Hock

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    Yup. Took the words right off of my keyboard.
     
  6. The Sapient

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    Agree....I pretty much see it like this, if you didn't give up in 2003, what makes you believe that you are going to give up in 2013? Especially, when there has been a rise of white skill players dominating their positions.

    Don't give up yet!!! Toby's big season is coming!!!
     
  7. dwid

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    right no reason to give up with the few White players we have excelling. NFL isn't going anywhere, and some dwfs are starting to wake up to realize the double standard with blacks/Whites, some are connecting it to the real world. No reason to give up now, its just getting started, although a slow and painful process with many let downs, there are still things to look forward to. Its really sucks when they screw one of our guys over, but above to elite White players just keep popping up. We have made grounds at safety, linebacker, 3-4 end, tight end and wide receiver. Runningback has been harder to break with at least our guys shining when given a chance, Hillis/Gerhart, with Woodhead getting the most right now as a "utility back", and on pace for 1k from scrimmage.

    Cornerback has SEEMED impossible, but not as impossible as people think, we have quite a few guys who play cornerback, nickel corner in certain packages (although listed at safety), and its amazing how dwfs haven't questioned how is this possible!?! because the analysts talk about elite corners like Revis and Haden and how they struggle when having to line up in the nickel spot because they don't get to use the sideline as a boundary to aid them, and there are so many different option routes that the guy lined up in slot can run, so it is VERY difficult to cover. How is it a relatively unknown player like Chris Prosinski, listed as safety can come in and play in the nickel and you don't hear his name (which is a good thing, because no plays are being made against him, he is covering his guy and the qb isn't throwing). Julian Edelman played this role in nickel and dime packages, and the same thing. It requires athleticism and brains/quick thinking skills.

    Nose tackle, we haven't made much ground there, espescially in the 3-4, I don't think we have one White 3-4 DT since Kelly Gregg has been gone, which is a shame because Gregg was great and there are others like him. I think we have had a few get a shot in the 4-3 as rotational guys. I was going to say Mitch Unrein gets into the rotation as a 3-4 DT but I forgot Denver switched back to a 4-3, but the occasionally run a 3-4 look.

    We have seen a surge in pass rushers mostly in the form of olbs in the 3-4, when in years past we had pro bowlers at DE in the 4-3, with Allen the main one from the past still kicking it.
     
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  8. Upside

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    You are right, it aggravates me to hell to only see one and sometimes no white men on defense, but I do sleep better at night knowing that the token white guy is almost always the best player on the defense. I mean, look around; Weddle, Watt, Kuechly, Matthews, Allen, Ninkovich, Lee, among others. At some point we're going to start seeing more of our guys out there. Its just upsetting that DWFs have yet to put 2 and 2 together.

    Aside from that though, this year I feel like we have a lot of guys on the bench that really should be starting, if not on their team, definitely somewhere. Some blatant examples:
    Miles Burris - Roach is playing well, but the other two are invisible
    Karl Klug - How many sacks would this guy have if he was a full-time starter?
    Bryan Braman - I have a feeling this guy is going to be great. He needs an opportunity though.
    Matt Giordano - I've never seen a guy make so many big plays, yet get buried on the depth chart year after year.
    Jim Leonhard - Ok, I get Jarius Byrd, but Aaron Williams? Really?
    Frank Zombo - I know he's an OLB, but in just 2 starts, he has made more of an impact than Akeem Jordan has all season
    Craig Steltz - The guy should have ben starting as a rookie
    Mark Herzlich - Its comical watching Rivers and Paysinger try to play the run
    Corey Lynch - was one of the better Charger defenders down the stretch last season, now can't even find a job
    Barrett Ruud - From Pro-Bowler to back-up to journeyman to jobless all in about a year an a half.

    And this is just off the top of my head, there are many, many more... I guess as far as quality goes, there is a lot to be positive about but when you really pay attention, the quantity is just upsetting.
     
  9. Upside

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    I'm predicting a really fun season next year. Toby starting, Woodhead with an even bigger role, and I think Hillis gets back in the driver's seat too next year. There's about 6-7 teams that need running back help. Based on some numbers this year, I'm hoping to see a few more of our guys make an impact at WR and on defense. Marc Mariani and Brian Cushing return to action. Maybe some quotas get the heave ho. I'm staying positive!
     
  10. PamelaOC

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    I think discrimination against white players at the nose tackle position is more indirect, as opposed to the direct discrimination that exists against whites at, say, running back. Nose tackles are the biggest guys on the field, and most white players are unwilling to gain that much weight because of the associated health problems. There's also kind of a related situation with the darkening of the O-line and the replacement of reasonably sized, intelligent, athletic white linemen with black sumos who rely on size alone.
     
  11. Pie

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    White Tackles are stuck between a rock and a "lard place."


    Blacks can be severely overweight and out of shape and still be considered athletic, whites cannot. At the same time, a black tackle can be excused for being "underweight" as long as he is a performer, and this will be written off as being more "athletic" and revolutionizing at the same time, a white cannot.

    It really all just comes down to the cultural perceptions and norms that allow scouts and coaches at the college level to pick players and retain their employability, which then translates into the talent pool for the professional level.

    The counter to those false cultural perceptions is for people like us at CF to keep pointing out to any DWF's within earshot each failed sumo, as well as any "overachieving" white non-sumo.

    It's an uphill battle for sure, but one worth fighting.
     
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  12. jaxvid

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    Good one!!

    Are there ANY white defensive lineman that are fat? Even one? It seems like every white d-lineman is an athletic stud. Those guys are tremendous athletes. As mentioned above the nose tackle position is always manned by a short fat black sumo that can clog up the middle. Really nothing else.

    Also those fat black lineman are never 3 down players. They get gassed too easily. Most teams have to have a 6 man rotation on dlines to spell the fat pigs they draft to play there. Typically a white player is demeaned when he doesn't play all game but it's standard procedure to rotate fat black sumo's in and out.
     
  13. Extra Point

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    An excellent plan!
     
  14. white is right

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    Tony Siragusa could only be described as portly. When he broke into the league with his ethnic sounding name I thought he was Euro- Poly mix. I hadn't seen a White guy that fat since the days of Art Donovan(who was much smaller because he didn't lift weights) , players from that era didn't have the muscular base that they have today(except for some true weak lard asses).
     
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    Siragusa was a hefty player. Now of course he is an obese caste loving pig. His career ended 10 years ago though. Are there any fat White d-lineman in the game today?
     
  16. northwinds

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    That pretty much sums it up for me as well.....I play all-white fantasy teams in two different leagues. Two years ago I was laughed at......not anymore. Educating the DWFs is not an easy task, but can be rewarding. My son also plays all white teams in two fantasy leagues and is in first place in both.......he drafted Peyton Manning first.....I took Aaron Rodgers! Five years ago you wouldn't have been able to field an all white fantasy team.
     
  17. Patrick

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    Exactly why many teams are going to the no huddle - no chance to substitute :)
     
  18. TwentyTwo

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    Solid post!

    The root of this issue for me is deeper than just what the NFL is doing. It is the High School Recruiting Services....example...making a quick scan on Rivals.com of the football-rich state of Texas & it's Top HS players....there is NOT a white player on the list until you get down to #25...an O-Lineman. I am not disputing there are talented black players...but for it to be this out-of-proportion?? Really? NOT ONE white player worthy to be in the top 24?? This funnels into the college game...then another funnel into the NFL.

    Wave after wave after wave...each year these Recruiting Services pump out these list of 4 & 5 Star players...and there are many BUST...However this uphill climb is steep!
     
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  19. dwid

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    nope, not any recent ones. Kelly Gregg had a minor gut for a few years but not really fat like most defensive tackles. 6 foot and 300 pounds, he held it well.

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    It is direct discrimination, because being 300+ has nothing to do with it. It is about strength. Why ignore White defensive tackles that have the strength at around 280 to 290, some close to 300? What good is 320 when you have a high percentage of body fat? A lot of our dt prospects are in the 290 range. You also have to remember, blacks store a lot of their fat around their organs (genetics, which is why some can look so ripped and be weak, compared to a White guy with a gut, where Whites tend to store fat around the belly), so for them to have guts means they have even a higher percentage of body fat. Richie Incognito is the only guy that is fat on either sides of the line that I can think of. 6'3 320, we don't even have a lot of offensive linemen going over 310. I think Incognito is one of the few I remember seeing when I looked this up a long time ago with Jake Long being 315, but at 6'7 compared to Incognito's 6'3, as well as Nate Solder, 6'8 at 320.

    Speaking of Incognito, at 6'3, 320, his mean streak on the field, just the way he plays, why was he never put at DT? This is another problem Whites face, guys that could play DT play offensive line. If they can play guard and center and block those guys then they can play on the other side. Some say they need to be shorter for better leverage but Suh is 6'4. Many guards and centers are 6'2 to 6'4, many who are said to be too short and not given a shot at the next level. Keith Millard, a White DT in the late 80's was 6'6 at DT, had 18 sacks in 89, two double digit sack season before that, after the 18 sack season knee injuries ruined his career (knee repairs weren't down to the science they are now). Still great for 5 years, came back and played til 31 but wasn't the same. 18 sacks is the most in a single season by a defensive tackle. He was 6'6 and 266, would probably be 280 to 290 now if he played and trained under new workout/nutrition regimes.

    So a White guy hold the record for most sacks in a season for a defensive tackle (Keith Millard) and a White guy owns the single season record for sacks by a 3-4 end (JJ Watt) with 20.5 breaking Bruce Smith's record who had 19.

    The record for most sacks by a 3-4 NT? a White guy, Bill Pickel with 12.5 in 84 AND 85 and came one short with 11.5 in 86, the league was well integrated during the 80's, so dwfs can't discredit it. He was also tall, about the same size/height as Keith Millard.

    (another fun fact, the most sacks by an inside linebacker in the 3-4 is also White, Karl Mecklenburg with 13), maybe the most by an inside linebacker period, but not sure. 3-4 outside linebackers are supposed to get the most sacks, and defensive ends in the 4-3, but we have White guys put up great sack numbers at other positions in the scheme.

    Personally I think some blacks might have a hard time gaining that much weight without gaining a significant amount of fat.

    Speaking of those 5 star recruits, and to a lesser extent 4 star recruits, even if they bust in college and don't live up to expectations, if they show any flashes, you will probably see them in the NFL. Next time you see a black guy get selected high and think who the hell is this guy, go look up how many stars he had.

    and its like these services have an agreement with the NFL (who use their services to help rank out nfl prospects, I think the Patriots are the few that dont, even though they draft a lot of blacks, people will complain that the player was nowhere near the talent level of where he was drafted, besides they get a lot of their talent from late round picks and free agents). So a guy like Blair White, good size and speed, production at a high level in college, undrafted but then we might see a White guy that might not be as talented but was on their radar get picked up late in the draft. Of course we see more of this with black prospects, every draft waiting for a White guy to get drafted and a bunch of nobodies being picked up from the 4th through 7th like teams are just throwing darts at a board filled with guys that were highly ranked high school prospects. However, it didn't help McGuffie although he was a 4 star recruit, showed promise at wr and was 6 foot with great measurables.
     
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  20. Don Wassall

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    If there is ever a legal challenge to the Caste System, it has to be primarily focused on Rivals and the other big recruiting services, and secondarily on the way the big college programs recruit and the way the NFL scouts, drafts and uses players. There have been a number of newspaper articles over the years in establishment newspapers (usually small ones) mentioning the discrimination White high school football players face, especially running backs, but nothing about how Rivals decides on its ratings and whether there is an explicit set of racial guidelines that are followed. If the recruiting services are forced to be fair, it will be much easier to go after the NCAA and NFL if they don't follow suit.

    However, I won't hold my breath waiting for such a lawsuit to be filed as it would take big-time money behind it to have a chance of success.
     
  21. white is right

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    Jerry Crafts was another true sumo. He was journeyman NFL player, who's weight varied from a listed 335 to 350. Near the end of his pro career he had stops in the CFL and XFL and now looks like he is on the verge of stroke or cardiac arrest.....http://www.comc.com/Cards/Football/2001/Topps_XFL/78/Jerry_Crafts/1010442 Ps aside from Sopranos character Siragusa, Crafts and Icognito I can't think of any other portly looking player who made a roster in the modern era.
     

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